Morrissey Central "WAR IS OLD, ART IS YOUNG" (August 29, 2024)

August 29, 2024

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In June 2024 AEG Entertainment Group made a lucrative offer to both Morrissey and Marr to tour worldwide as 'The Smiths' throughout 2025.
Morrissey said Yes to the offer; Marr ignored the offer.

Morrissey undertakes a largely sold out tour of the USA in November.
Marr continues to tour as a special guest to New Order.



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if marr walked down my high st nobody would blink an eye,M has been in public image for forty years,like him or loathe him he is very recognidsble to the british publc.
I don't really care about the British public, but I am sure people would recognize Johnny. Anyway, this is a total bore, I am done responding. I hope Johnny does not respond, because it seems Morrissey is trying to force a response out of him because his feels are hurt that Johnny did not respond at all in the first place. Morrissey seems to be baiting him also with the misrepresentation of what Johnny is actually doing, which is a 2 month tour in the US. Maybe one day Morrissey will be a man and confront his problems in an adult manner with the person he is having the problem with instead of these nauseating Central posts.
 
After sleeping restlessly about it for 1-2 nights, I've come to the conclusion, that Morrissey's commentary on Johnny Marr's live status 2024 will actually be impossible for him to process. That's it.
As usual in these tit-for-tat exchanges, each one is now stuck with a choice of either

- replying with insults and making it all worse
- not replying, and letting it worsen naturally due to how that silence will be received
- replying like a f***ing ADULT and mending some bridges.

Morrissey offering tenuous olive branches by posting positively about The Smiths is not enough to change the wind after the open letter. An adult, seeking better relations with Johnny, would have apologised for that before anything else. 'I had a grievance but I went the wrong way about it" etc etc. And in turn, Johnny might then have apologized for the comments he has made and his childish Twitter responses. They are stubborn, neither will give an inch and each one wants the other to be the first to cave in. This is not about politics, it's about that letter. Who in the hell tries to get someone on board with a reunion by mocking them fgs!
 
I don't really care about the British public, but I am sure people would recognize Johnny. Anyway, this is a total bore, I am done responding. I hope Johnny does not respond, because it seems Morrissey is trying to force a response out of him because his feels are hurt that Johnny did not respond at all in the first place. Morrissey seems to be baiting him also with the misrepresentation of what Johnny is actually doing, which is a 2 month tour in the US. Maybe one day Morrissey will be a man and confront his problems in an adult manner with the person he is having the problem with instead of these nauseating Central posts.
i am done responding,does that mean you will never post again,yippee.
dont respond to this msg or that will be you responding.
 
Silence is not a bad thing. I would take Johnny's silence as he just does not want to be involved in this. To me, he seems a lot more relaxed than he did a few years ago, he seems to be having fun now. Why let anyone disturb his peace?
Maybe posting the Farage picture was not the best idea, but who knows what has happened behind the scenes, maybe he is just fed up with this entire reunion thing and people asking all the time and he wants to finally move on. He will be 61 soon, he probably just wants to live out the rest of his career doing gigs with friends and doing what he wants.
You can't go back, time moves forward with or without you. He seems to have decided he does not want Morrissey in his life and he has every single right to make that decision and he does not owe the fans anything at all. The Smiths are over and have been for almost 40 years. Imagine someone asking you to go back to a job you had 40 years ago that you hated and they just keep asking you. I am sure it has gotten very old.

Can you imagin touring with Morrissey? All the bitching. All the cancelations. All the problems with other people. The list is endless.
 
Can’t blame Marr for not wanting to play manager again for Smiths part II.
Though, I guess Marr will make sure that’s all by contract sorted out this time.
AEG will be certain to have heavyweight management in place for this. It will be machine tooled to keep things on track.

dont think people who have paid for the smiths would be happy with johnboy singing the songs,because lets face it his voice isnt very good.
But if M does does disappear for some reason Johnny will politely give the 20 thousand odd crowd a choice. Some will stay and still enjoy a show - the rest can leave or race for the bars, then log on here to gripe.
 
Silence is not a bad thing. I would take Johnny's silence as he just does not want to be involved in this. To me, he seems a lot more relaxed than he did a few years ago, he seems to be having fun now. Why let anyone disturb his peace?
Maybe posting the Farage picture was not the best idea, but who knows what has happened behind the scenes, maybe he is just fed up with this entire reunion thing and people asking all the time and he wants to finally move on. He will be 61 soon, he probably just wants to live out the rest of his career doing gigs with friends and doing what he wants.
You can't go back, time moves forward with or without you. He seems to have decided he does not want Morrissey in his life and he has every single right to make that decision and he does not owe the fans anything at all. The Smiths are over and have been for almost 40 years. Imagine someone asking you to go back to a job you had 40 years ago that you hated and they just keep asking you. I am sure it has gotten very old.

Can you imagin touring with Morrissey? All the bitching. All the cancelations. All the problems with other people. The list is endless.
It’s not like that. I can’t believe i’m wasting my time even responding to this. “Imagine someone asking you to go back to a job you hated 40 years ago and they just keep asking you” is totally disingenuous, and a deliberately false equivalency.

Any great creative endeavour that you put your mind, and heart, and soul into can be an exhausting and grueling journey, even if it’s a labor of love. Sometimes after one great work, some artists/writers have never continued beyond that in their metier ever again. This is not as uncommon as some people may think.

Relationships that are dependent on each other for that creative endeavor to reach its intended pinnacle, such as in a band collaboration, is going to place all kinds of additional emotional and personality pressures onto the fire - and that’s in addition to concrete, actual problems that human beings tend to each individually already cone with.

But when the end result is something magical and in hindsight clearly worth any strife because something so unique and so moving and so beautiful came out of the collective efforts and the stress and the disagreements, and the pressures, but of the good times too - then that is about as far away from “going back to a job you hated” that something can be.

People celebrate the Smiths every single day, 40 years on. Johnny’s lucky that Morrissey’s the bigger person, and it doesn’t matter what drove his “yes”, because what matters is that if they wanted to, the two of them could be at the helm of this ship together.

I hope Morrissey has many more opportunities to feel as celebrated and as appreciated as he should be, or however much he wishes to be.

And then i read endless comments like yours, because you're far from the only one, and it’s just like … people who want whatever the opposite outcome is of whatever they think they perceive that Morrissey might want, … want some kind of disappointment for him, like it’s their oxygen
 
It’s not like that. I can’t believe i’m wasting my time even responding to this. “Imagine someone asking you to go back to a job you hated 40 years ago and they just keep asking you” is totally disingenuous, and a deliberately false equivalency.

Any great creative endeavour that you put your mind, and heart, and soul into can be an exhausting and grueling journey, even if it’s a labor of love. Sometimes after one great work, some artists/writers have never continued beyond that in their metier ever again. This is not as uncommon as some people may think.

Relationships that are dependent on each other for that creative endeavor to reach its intended pinnacle, such as in a band collaboration, is going to place all kinds of additional emotional and personality pressures onto the fire - and that’s in addition to concrete, actual problems that human beings tend to each individually already cone with.

But when the end result is something magical and in hindsight clearly worth any strife because something so unique and so moving and so beautiful came out of the collective efforts and the stress and the disagreements, and the pressures, but of the good times too - then that is about as far away from “going back to a job you hated” that something can be.

People celebrate the Smiths every single day, 40 years on. Johnny’s lucky that Morrissey’s the bigger person, and it doesn’t matter what drove his “yes”, because what matters is that if they wanted to, the two of them could be at the helm of this ship together.

I hope Morrissey has many more opportunities to feel as celebrated and as appreciated as he should be, or however much he wishes to be.

And then i read endless comments like yours, because you're far from the only one, and it’s just like … people who want whatever the opposite outcome is of whatever they think they perceive that Morrissey might want, … want some kind of disappointment for him, like it’s their oxygen
I also did not want a reunion when Morrissey didn't want one, so your conclusion is false. I don't know how you got there, because I did not read your wall of text, but I have always been anti reunion.
 
Here’s the knockout punch Johnny (y)

Johnny Marr. Guitar
Mike Joyce. Drums
Craig Gannon. Guitar
Stephen Street. Bass
Rick Astley. Vocals

Support act Blossoms

No need for all the shit the comes with Dorrissey :guitar::tiphat::laughing:

Benny 🇬🇧:knife:
 
Whether you’re anti-reunion or not isn’t what i commented on
Well, since I did not read your novel, I guess I will never know but I did see something about me wanting the opposite of what Morrissey wants, which is not true. To my knowledge, this is the first time he has wanted a reunion and you are welcome to comb through my posts to see what I had to say about it before.

And then i read endless comments like yours, because you're far from the only one, and it’s just like … people who want whatever the opposite outcome is of whatever they think they perceive that Morrissey might want, … want some kind of disappointment for him, like it’s their oxygen
 
Well, since I did not read your novel, I guess I will never know but I did see something about me wanting the opposite of what Morrissey wants, which is not true. To my knowledge, this is the first time he has wanted a reunion and you are welcome to comb through my posts to see what I had to say about it before.

And then i read endless comments like yours, because you're far from the only one, and it’s just like … people who want whatever the opposite outcome is of whatever they think they perceive that Morrissey might want, … want some kind of disappointment for him, like it’s their oxygen
🙄
 
I wonder what Stephven Pratrick Morrissey will do when Johnny Marr is announced as one of the support-build up acts for Oasis....?

...and The Blossoms 🌸 ...who 'might' invite Rick Astley to join them on a few crowd-pleasers...I'm just reading the tea leaves, baby...no need to shout at me! ...
 
I wonder what Stephven Pratrick Morrissey will do when Johnny Marr is announced as one of the support-build up acts for Oasis....?

...and The Blossoms 🌸 ...who 'might' invite Rick Astley to join them on a few crowd-pleasers...I'm just reading the tea leaves, baby...no need to shout at me! ...
He'll probably think that his comment about JM being a support act was justified. Not that he minded the Rick Astley thing, he was happy about it. I really don't think he cares who supports Oasis.
 

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