Morrissey Central "BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE" (August 14, 2024)

BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE

"I am well aware of the Smiths' rise in recents years, and their affirmed position in our cultural heritage. It proves how taking risks can work beautifully … and if you don't take risks when you make music then what the hell are you doing making music? I am incredibly grateful to anyone who walked out to buy, or who stayed in to download, Smiths' music. The musicians are considered to be those who make the change, but the consumer plays an equal part by having faith. We're all in this together. It was always about a refusal to surrender to enemy propaganda - something I still face today just as much as I faced it in 1983, 84, 85, 86 and 87. The Smiths do not end."

MORRISSEY.

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...would these be the same 'clueless consumers' you railed against in 'Kids A Fcuka', mt8?

Clown arse...clown-fake face...clownish circus freak vocals...do one Morrissey...numpty...
 
I think it's because the nouveau fan only knows the current Morrissey. They never experienced his greatness first hand. I sometimes feel sorry for them, they missed out. For example Ashley, if she thinks Morrissey is great now, imagine how in love she would have been with the late 80's, early 90's Morrissey!!!
I think you might have quoted the wrong post! But yeah, I think a lot of us would have loved to have been a fan back in those days. But I don’t think it makes you any less of a fan if you weren’t. That’s not what fandom is about.
 
I love the 80s and 90s Morrissey.
I love the Morrissey of 2024. Fearless, uncompromising, brave. Courage is one of the greatest of the human virtues.
Anyone 'discovering' him now has just as much to admire and take delight in, as someone who 'discovered' him in the 80s or 90s.
He wasn't a legend back then. He is now.
 
BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE

"I am well aware of the Smiths' rise in recents years, and their affirmed position in our cultural heritage. It proves how taking risks can work beautifully … and if you don't take risks when you make music then what the hell are you doing making music? I am incredibly grateful to anyone who walked out to buy, or who stayed in to download, Smiths' music. The musicians are considered to be those who make the change, but the consumer plays an equal part by having faith. We're all in this together. It was always about a refusal to surrender to enemy propaganda - something I still face today just as much as I faced it in 1983, 84, 85, 86 and 87. The Smiths do not end."

MORRISSEY.

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The Smiths will never end to me. Not musically, not lyrically, not aesthetically!!!!
 
I love the 80s and 90s Morrissey.
I love the Morrissey of 2024. Fearless, uncompromising, brave. Courage is one of the greatest of the human virtues.
Anyone 'discovering' him now has just as much to admire and take delight in, as someone who 'discovered' him in the 80s or 90s.
He wasn't a legend back then. He is now.
As Jesse put it, I too have never seen Morrissey manifest such “finesse and ferociousness” before, so today’s version of Morrissey is the best one to me too, despite the threat to his health from Barrett’s esophagus, which I assume he still gets scrapings done from, to test for any signs of it escalating toward becoming cancerous. He seems to be very healthy mentally, physically and emotionally, going only from what footage I saw of the recent Las Vegas concerts and his written statements, which is very exciting to me, and you too clearly.
 
I love the 80s and 90s Morrissey.
I love the Morrissey of 2024. Fearless, uncompromising, brave. Courage is one of the greatest of the human virtues.
Anyone 'discovering' him now has just as much to admire and take delight in, as someone who 'discovered' him in the 80s or 90s.
He wasn't a legend back then. He is now.
Disagree. He was larger than life in the 80's-'94, a true legend. He was untouchable, a peerless lyricist, energetic performer with matinee idol looks. He is very human now...a very flawed human, slightly mean spirited, no longer with an air of mystery.
 
Wow! Morrissey seems to finally be acknowledging the greatness of The Smiths, something he's always seemed reluctant to do (perhaps because of everyone's persistent comparisons to his solo career). I remember being quite disappointed with The Autobiography for how little space there was for the group's excellence and relevance.
 
he was a legend pre-Smiths!

:p

You folks are 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌!
 
He was larger than life in the 80's-'94, a true legend. He was untouchable, a peerless lyricist, energetic performer with matinee idol looks. He is very human now...a very flawed human, slightly mean spirited, no longer with an air of mystery.

It may seem really strange, but I hold the opposite view - he was a dull, of miniscule interest in the 80's - early 90's, run of the mill geeky-looking performer. Now, I find him...yes, human, but generous and full of mystery! Oh, why should that be?
 
In Morrissey’s world, anyone not kissing his feet is against him and out to get him. He made some remarks that some people disagreed with and because of that faced some backlash. Add to that his far below par albums of the past ten years (his biggest sin in my book) and it’s easy to see why he’s not that relevant anymore. I’m sure the industry would find it easier to forgive him if he at least made albums that people liked. I stand by my statement: Morrissey should stop playing the victim.
Best to focus on facts, rather than assessments of recent albums which will always be subjective. I thought Dog on a Chain was a great album, but aware that too is subjective.
When The Smiths debut album was released, there was a concerted effort made by the UK press to smear it as celebrating paedophilia. Fast forward to 2021, and The Simpsons, watched by millions of viewers around the world, hired a middle class posh boy actor whose relatives owned slaves in the Caribbean, to portray Morrissey, from Irish working class roots, in a way that can only be described as a 'character assassination', secretly eating burgers behind the public's back. Describing this hatred of him as 'enemy propaganda' sounds pretty accurate to me. This is more than Moz just 'playing the victim' due to people 'not kissing his feet'.
 
Best to focus on facts, rather than assessments of recent albums which will always be subjective. I thought Dog on a Chain was a great album, but aware that too is subjective.
When The Smiths debut album was released, there was a concerted effort made by the UK press to smear it as celebrating paedophilia. Fast forward to 2021, and The Simpsons, watched by millions of viewers around the world, hired a middle class posh boy actor whose relatives owned slaves in the Caribbean, to portray Morrissey, from Irish working class roots, in a way that can only be described as a 'character assassination', secretly eating burgers behind the public's back. Describing this hatred of him as 'enemy propaganda' sounds pretty accurate to me. This is more than Moz just 'playing the victim' due to people 'not kissing his feet'.
Yes, like I’ve said: he’s faced backlash and is ridiculed when he should be revered. His career is in the toilet and he himself is to blame.

But I do agree that The Simpsons went way overboard. It was awful.
 
Disagree. He was larger than life in the 80's-'94, a true legend. He was untouchable, a peerless lyricist, energetic performer with matinee idol looks. He is very human now...a very flawed human, slightly mean spirited, no longer with an air of mystery.
Sounds like you will never forgive him for growing old? Or older, at least. Happens to us all, unfortunately.

When you are old and grey and full of sleep,
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.
 
Sounds like you will never forgive him for growing old? Or older, at least. Happens to us all, unfortunately.

When you are old and grey and full of sleep,
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.

Johnnie won’t forgive himself for growing older and out of his need for Morrissey.

If he presently had the same need for Morrissey as his younger self once did, then just like Ashley, he would recognize how great the artist Morrissey presently is.

It’s not rocket science. But perhaps I should have put Morrissey in quotes, because we all have a slightly different image and idea of what he means to us.
 
BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE

"I am well aware of the Smiths' rise in recents years, and their affirmed position in our cultural heritage. It proves how taking risks can work beautifully … and if you don't take risks when you make music then what the hell are you doing making music? I am incredibly grateful to anyone who walked out to buy, or who stayed in to download, Smiths' music. The musicians are considered to be those who make the change, but the consumer plays an equal part by having faith. We're all in this together. It was always about a refusal to surrender to enemy propaganda - something I still face today just as much as I faced it in 1983, 84, 85, 86 and 87. The Smiths do not end."

MORRISSEY.

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Love this post by M. Its obvious in his heat of hearts he knows The Smiths are the beaturful thing he ever created
BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE

"I am well aware of the Smiths' rise in recents years, and their affirmed position in our cultural heritage. It proves how taking risks can work beautifully … and if you don't take risks when you make music then what the hell are you doing making music? I am incredibly grateful to anyone who walked out to buy, or who stayed in to download, Smiths' music. The musicians are considered to be those who make the change, but the consumer plays an equal part by having faith. We're all in this together. It was always about a refusal to surrender to enemy propaganda - something I still face today just as much as I faced it in 1983, 84, 85, 86 and 87. The Smiths do not end."

MORRISSEY.

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Love this. The Smiths are the most remarkable fecking band, truly special. They were universal in so many ways but in some ways they were very fecking specific to a certain British and Irish mindset - working class, into intelligent pop-culture, tribal, refused the middle-class game. The Smiths really did speak for a lot of working-class people. The stone roses and The Jam, Oasis also spoke for the British working class, but the more basic elements of it.
You didn't have to have been there from the start like I was, but feck me, it was a truly great ride if you were. I will always love M because of how he waa then .
Someone above said M's career kept the Smiths going, that is kind of true, in a way but if he had died in 1988 , the Smiths would have still been as popular as they are now. The truth is, its The Smiths magic that kept M's career going. Im not having a dig at M, its just how I see it.
I think M looks back a lot at The Smiths days and they are as special to him, as they are to us the fans. Which is why it aches my balls, when people talk shit and claim Alain W or Jesse or Boz are as good as Johnny. No way. Not to the critics, not to most fans and not to M himself.
BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE

"I am well aware of the Smiths' rise in recents years, and their affirmed position in our cultural heritage. It proves how taking risks can work beautifully … and if you don't take risks when you make music then what the hell are you doing making music? I am incredibly grateful to anyone who walked out to buy, or who stayed in to download, Smiths' music. The musicians are considered to be those who make the change, but the consumer plays an equal part by having faith. We're all in this together. It was always about a refusal to surrender to enemy propaganda - something I still face today just as much as I faced it in 1983, 84, 85, 86 and 87. The Smiths do not end."

MORRISSEY.

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Fecking loved this from M
The Smiths were such a special band, and what was so special is it meant as much to the band as the fans. M gave so much of himself to the Smiths.
Morrissey the pop star is more worldly than The Smiths, yet the Smiths are both more universal and more specific to the British working class. They really did speak to a lot us in a deep way.
Even if you are not an old git like me, who was there at the start of The Smiths and followed them up and down the country, even if you are only 14 years old today, it doesn't matter. To love The Smiths, is to Love The Smiths, they are timeless
It's obvious The Smiths have always meant a lot to M, even when he tried to put them behind him, he knew in many ways that the band had the best of him. His relationship with Johnny is something he never really had with any other band member. You can tell he thinks of Johnny as an equal but there is no way on Earth he thinks Boz and AW and Jesee are. This is what makes me fecking laugh when you get fecking clowns saying AW and Jesse are as good as Johnny and they think because M bicthed about Johnny, it means he hates him (so being cult types they must fecking hate Johnny too) To know M, isn't to trust everything he says as his true feelings, its about reading between the lines. Which is part of the fecking fun.

I would love to see M do his own blog once every month or so, coming out with this stuff. I much prefer it when he is sharing positive feelings, Rather than punching the air in a vodka rant It must be odd, being a 64 year old man, watching yourself on the TV from the 80s. It must be like watching a strange family member, it's him and its also not him. That feeling can drive you crazy if you let it. It seems M is at peace with this kind of thing though.

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… talk about a ‘vodka rant’.

:ROFLMAO:
 
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