Johnny Marr uses Nigel Farage image to dismiss reunion talk (August 27, 2024)

I’m not the only delusional and Johnny is listening

Now picked up by the BBC:
Johnny Marr uses Nigel Farage image to dismiss reunion talk

Johnny Marr uses Nigel Farage image to dismiss The Smiths reunion

The guitarist kills talk of reuniting with Morrissey by sharing a picture of the Clacton MP on X.

www.bbc.co.uk

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Related items:

• Morrissey-solo.com: "Johnny Marr on Morrissey's politics - interview in Sky News" - November 1, 2016
• Morrissey-solo.com: "Johnny Marr tweets response to Smiths reunion rumours" - Nov 7, 2019
• NME: "Johnny Marr responds to fan call for The Smiths reunion in light of Oasis rumours" - August 27, 2024

 

[nicky wire's legs]

Haha, thanks Gordy.
Forgot all about doin' it.
Thanks to Camgrey for the rememberin'
remembrance.

She needs to be given you credit, wildt! Just cause yer a turkey don't mean she can rip off yer stuff!!

 

[Johnny]

He's really let himself down there Johnny Marr.
Infantile stuff. I'd expect that from his son not him.

 

[gashonthenail]

What Johnny isn't clever enough to work out is that Morrissey's political views over the years have been largely based around working class beliefs, not the stereotypical left vs right. On likely just this one particular point, Farage appeals to Morrissey and a swath of working class people due to him opposing mass immigration. That's really it and Johnny is smuggly playing this pseudo "Morrissey is a racist" card for all it's worth.

Johnny has an unpleasent side to him that's revealed itself from time to time over the years and his obnoxious son, see mentions of his bad behaviour from a Newcastle based recording studio, belies this fact to an extent. Not settling with Joe Moss for the cost of a PA until the Smiths had ended, giving Andy a solitary afternoon in his studio after settling his royalties claim, resulting in Andy saying at the time that Morrissey had done more for him. Most of all for me, it's the snideness over the years towards Morrissey who has stayed relatively silent aside from the open letter.

Spot on. And I'm sure Noel and Liam - although neither of them one for 'politics' - would be very much in Moz's camp on this one, and not with Johnny fully embracing middle class Islington set snobbery who despise the working class and want to lock them all up and throw the key away. Who does Johnny prefer? Stalinist Starmer? The good for nothing Tories? At least Farage has some authenticity to him. Viva Moz.

 

[Billy A]

EDIT: Fake account

4 days ago I received a notification on Facebook saying the following:

The comment is on the Morrissey Official Facebook page (posted on Jan 2021) and relates to Morrissey on Larry King Now singing Kiss Me A Lot.

Read into it what you will.

 

[gashonthenail]

J Marr's criticisms of Morrissey are retrograde, they belong to the past... it is boring that he continues to say the same thing about Morrissey. He's already big, they should both be grateful to have formed The Smiths, I like Johnny, but that photo is too provocative..... he wants to continue foolishly fighting with Morrissey, he always looks for Moz to generate controversy... They are issues of the past. Enough of fights, fans want to see them together. Time is inexorable... hey

I'm afraid you're wrong on that one. The left wing luvvies like Johnny called the recent riots in the UK the 'Farage riots'. They want to smear anyone who criticises mass immigration as far right. Make no mistake, in this post Johnny is saying that recent events in the UK were caused by people like Farage, and by implication, Morrissey.

 

[athosique]

4 days ago I received a notification on Facebook saying the following:

View attachment 109707

The comment is on the Morrissey Official Facebook page (posted on Jan 2021) and relates to Morrissey on Larry King Now singing Kiss Me A Lot.

Read into it what you will.

you got a like from someone named Johnny marr, not the Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr, who's got both his name and surname capitalised on FB

 

[gashonthenail]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If Johnny finds you-know-who so abhorrent, why sing his lyrics? The Smiths' music is all Johnny's and he can perform those songs on tour as instrumentals or better yet, write new lyrics. Instead, he gladly accepts tidy sums of money every night he steps on a stage for what's essentially Smiths karaoke night.

If tender Johnny was as noble and sophisticated as he likes to think he is, he'd take the high road and say, "The Smiths were perfect, why tamper with history?" or better yet, DON'T FU*KING SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.

Absolutely. Moz was the same person then as he is now. If you don't like his views or his character then don't sing his lyrics. Stick to your own material. But he won't, of course, because he knows 99% of people who come to his shows want to hear those songs, and during his songs go to the bar or the khazi.

 

[Billy A]

you got a like from someone named Johnny marr, not the Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr, who's got both his name and surname capitalised on FB

Haha D'oh!

 

[Kenmare]

Thewlis said it best. Time is passing. This is virtue signalling, and of course Moz does it as well. Noel is complaining about Gbury being "woke". There's not a soul alive who doesn't have an opinion that'll offend.
The decision to tour should (in the world in which none of us reside) be about having something to say musically and the money surely. Morrissey still (rightly) covers Smiths material while lifting them up. Johnny does the same, but can't help himself from sh*tting where he eats.

 

[Famous when dead]

Hahaa!
Where'd they get this from?
I made this a ways back and threw it
up on here.
Can't remember what thread it was on.
Camgrey's got great taste!

That would be here:
Post in thread 'MOJO Collector's Series 'The Smiths' new magazine out now' https://www.morrissey-solo.com/thre...s-new-magazine-out-now.149744/post-1987471765

Unfortunately, thread comments don't get promoted or treated as 'real' because someone thinks SER had 'shopped an image minus the rest of the band maliciously when it was clearly a repost by Camila and was created here as above some time ago.

The initial discussion regarding Marr' s tweet was mixed in with the 'nothing particularly to do with Morrissey' Oasis thread and at the point of being separated for its own talking points, the BBC and now et al have picked it up as a story.
Regards,
FWD.

 

[Tampa Moz Fan]

I love Marr but that was very childish. When was the last time Morrissey even said anything about Farage? And to imply that's the reason for no reunion is simply ridiculous. Morrissey doesn't want to do it. It's not that Morrissey is asking and Marr has refused because of his "political views."

 

[The Wild Turkey]

She needs to be given you credit, wildt! Just cause yer a turkey don't mean she can rip off yer stuff!!

I'll be honest with ya, it does look cuter
with just Moz on the cover.
Yeah, I just tried to improve the thing.

 

[The Wild Turkey]

That would be here:
Post in thread 'MOJO Collector's Series 'The Smiths' new magazine out now' https://www.morrissey-solo.com/thre...s-new-magazine-out-now.149744/post-1987471765

Unfortunately, thread comments don't get promoted or treated as 'real' because someone thinks SER had 'shopped an image minus the rest of the band maliciously when it was clearly a repost by Camila and was created here as above some time ago.

The initial discussion regarding Marr' s tweet was mixed in with the 'nothing particularly to do with Morrissey' Oasis thread and at the point of being separated for its own talking points, the BBC and now et al have picked it up as a story.
Regards,
FWD.

Don't get mad at SER folks.
This was a Wild Tremendous special
all the way.

 

[Anonymous]

I love Marr but that was very childish. When was the last time Morrissey even said anything about Farage? And to imply that's the reason for no reunion is simply ridiculous. Morrissey doesn't want to do it. It's not that Morrissey is asking and Marr has refused because of his "political views."

I think it's either that (trying to save face because Morrissey doesn't want to do it) or it's a smokescreen for a more fundamental reason why he won't work with Morrissey - maybe skeletons in the closet?

As to a Smiths reunion, Marr once said, way back in the early 90s, "if we ever do get back together, it will be as Morrissey and Marr (rather than 'The Smiths')", and that's never been more relevant, following Andy's death. The Smiths are not The Smiths without Andy. Although, come to think of it, I can't remember now why he said back then that a reunion would be as 'Morrissey and Marr'. Maybe because Rourke and Joyce both had ongoing legal cases at that time (think it was was early 90s/Electronic era).

 

[Redacted]

Don't get mad at SER folks.
This was a Wild Tremendous special
all the way.

Well, that is interesting how it made it's way around the net, but I think it's understandable that SER would be a prime suspect for something like this and not the turkey person

 

[Cormac]

I suppose, but they both made abundantly clear of the years, they share little in common, and may not even like (or respect) each other now. Time can have a way of either allowing folks to see and cherish the good they time they had together or (with more info and time, throw things in retroactive clarity to recall the noxious, bothersome qualities that they may have ignored for the sake if the music/band erc.

Is the Farage thing a bi childish and outdated sure. But it does harken to a paint of significant disagreement between them, it is taking Morrissey's words seriously and sincerely- as he always seems to want people to do.

Are large tracks od Moz's autobiography, his recollections and score keeping about Golden lights and so much else also childish? Is it a bit eye rolling that Moz, as time has gone on, seemingly sought to claim almost exclusive credit for the creative vision of the Smiths? Yes.

But all that confab is at least honest. Neither have expressed any desire to reunite - whereas Liam Gallagher has wanted an oasis reunion to happen since the break up- and vocally so.

Let them be petty and churlish to none another, I say. There's something to be said for integrity of well earned, and well-grounded mutual distaste.

The funniest thing would be to have them open, separately, on the same bill, for a Manchester show.

Johnny's post was childish, cheap and disappointing. Morrissey's recent comments on the Smiths never dying was an olive branch if ever there was one. He was kicked in the balls with Marr's comments. Morrissey's comments from a few years ago re Anne Marie Waters etc etc were disappointing to say the least. There was some mitigation - his Mother dying obviously hit him hard also the Manchester bombing.. I've never wanted the Smiths to reform. They were perfect leave it and they will stay perfect. That said I would love the surviving members - all three - to be on friendly terms. They simply meant too much to so many people. I for one will never forget taking 'Hatful of Hollow' home and playing it for the first time. You had it scrape me off the ceiling when it was finished. It turned me upside down and inside out. What an incredible record.. Take care all.

 

[Amy]

He's really let himself down there Johnny Marr.
Infantile stuff. I'd expect that from his son not him.

Absolutely. Not to mention that the tag for the account he was replying to was @kill_morrissey, is he f***ing blind? Have things fallen that far? Christ.

 

[Dorothy]

you got a like from someone named Johnny marr, not the Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr, who's got both his name and surname capitalised on FB

This person has 'cloned' both the Johnny Marr and Morrissey Official FB page. I've blocked them because they keep liking my posts

 

[Redacted]

EDIT: Fake account

4 days ago I received a notification on Facebook saying the following:

View attachment 109707

The comment is on the Morrissey Official Facebook page (posted on Jan 2021) and relates to Morrissey on Larry King Now singing Kiss Me A Lot.

Read into it what you will.

I have fake Dave Grohl liking my posts

 

[Redacted]

Noel Gallagher has spoken about working with Johnny Marr on his new album ‘Council Skies‘ – hailing the former Smiths turned solo star as “the G.O.A.T.”

The pair have long been friends and collaborators – with Marr contributing to Oasis‘ 2002 album ‘Heathen Chemistry’ as well as playing on The High Flying Birds‘ ‘Ballad Of The Mighty I’ in 2015 and ‘If Love Is The Law’ from 2017. They teamed up again for three songs on Gallagher’s new album ‘Council Skies’, namely lead single ‘Pretty Boy’ along with ‘Open the Door, See What You Find’ and the title track.

Robert Smith worked on 'Pretty Boy' too