The Times / Will Hodgkinson: "Morrissey says he is being censored. He isn’t" (September 10, 2024)

This story is now spinning up all kinds of press, like this piece in The Times by Will Hodgkinson. (Author of the AMAZING new book about Lawrence, from Felt.) As it's The Times, there's a paywall, but here the text of it all:

Morrissey says he is being censored. He isn’t

The former Smiths star has complained that his controversial album Bonfire of Teenagers has been unfairly suppressed. He should release it himself and stop playing the moaning martyr

Will Hodgkinson

Tuesday September 10 2024, 3.00pm BST, The Times


Every rock and pop critic in the country would like to persuade Morrissey to talk to them. Now that the most contrary star of them has talked (via email) to The Telegraph, I confess I’m a little jealous, but it’s a little rich to read that he thinks he is being gagged, bound and censored. Is that really the case when we’re all desperate to speak to him?

The interview focuses chiefly on Morrissey’s unreleased 2022 album Bonfire of Teenagers, which takes its name from the May 22, 2017, bombing by an Islamic fundamentalist at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, and the fact that it remains unreleased. The album is a victim, claims Morrissey, of “idiot culture” and the suppression of free speech.

Yet Morrissey does have free speech, which he uses regularly in messages sent out to the world via his website and picked up by the press everywhere. “There’s no arts media any more in England, therefore there’s no one to whom I can sit and talk about this,” he says in an interview in the arts pages of a newspaper. Morrissey’s dispute with Capitol Records blocked the release of the album, which featured a guest spot from Miley Cyrus until she backed off “for reasons unconnected to me”, he said. But as he stated earlier this year, he has bought back the rights to the album. He could release Bonfire of Teenagers himself today.

He says he won’t do that. Why not? Plenty of artists release their own albums in the streaming age and Morrissey is certainly a big enough name to garner big sales to his still loyal fanbase. I cannot help but suspect he likes to see himself as the outsider genius amid a confederacy of dunces, the lone voice of truth facing down the groupthink-infected hordes.

Besides, there is more than a bit of hypocrisy going on here. I remember asking Morrissey’s press officer (long gone; they change like the wind) for a ticket to review a concert, only to discover I was on some kind of naughty list for being less than effusive about a past performance. If you give it out, as every critic knows and as Morrissey does, you should be able to take it. And I would like, too, to ask him more about his support for the English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson (in 2018 he said his sentencing for contempt of court was “shocking treatment”) or for the far-right party For Britain, which he praised the same year.

Fair play to Morrissey for saying he won’t self-censor and remove the offending title song to his album. Artists have the right to express themselves and audiences have the right to agree or disagree with them. Yet all this protesting has the whiff of martyrdom and the former singer of the Smiths is no saint. In late August Morrissey whined that he and the guitarist Johnny Marr had been approached by a concert promoter with a very lucrative offer for a reunion tour but Marr wouldn’t play ball, so fans of the most revolutionary band of the 1980s were once more denied the chance to relive their youth. He went on to boast that he was selling out his US tour while Marr was reduced to playing special guest to New Order.

Yet I know which of the two men I have more sympathy for — Marr, who is one of the most liked and respected musicians out there, and who has shown integrity at refusing to reform the Smiths when to do so could afford him a handful of houses he doesn’t need. He responded to the reunion rumours by posting a photograph of Nigel Farage, seemingly a reference to the political beliefs of the singer he clearly has no desire to be in a room with ever again. Free speech does exist, and Marr has exercised his right to it by tacitly revealing why there will be no Smiths reunion.


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This whole BOT shit show is even more depressing now than when it all started a few years back.

For gods sake man…. Take some responsibility FFS and release this album yourself or just shut the 4ck up about it .

From the Bonfire songs I’ve seen him sing live (Blackpool, Doncaster)
There were 4cking shite.

Even his live shows are taking a beating from fans.
His last run of shows showed not that much
Different from a few years ago, churning out the same old tired songs like our Frank.

Never in 40 years have I been so pissed off and BORED with Mozz than what I am now.

I hope BOT never sees the light of day.
Not a thought has been spared for survivors
Or relatives of the dead from that night.
Take control of yourself young man, it's going to be okay......
In those 40 years , in your life trials, haven't they all worked out,
Don't be a wave back and forth
 
I liked Rebels. I didn't like Dog. Horrible album, an absolute dirge throughout. Much of it sounds like a mix between early 2000s Killers songs with a hint of New Order thrown in, but done much, much worse than what either of those bands did.

I tried listening to it again earlier, to try and like it, but I had to turn it off after three tracks.

I don’t really care to know of the Killers or most of N.O.( I only care for their early hits) in regards to the sounds. But I give a hand to Morrissey for being a little more open to the possibilities of were a ‘Morrissey song’ could go. I feel that Dog is his best so far, but
the production is a bit too … on the grid or mechanical. I’m hoping the Bonfire album is a bit looser.
 
I actually think Joe C is the best producer he's had since Street. Joe gets such a rich, full sound from all his album's with Moz, every instrument sounds like it has room to breathe. Personally, I rate World Peace and Dog as 2 of his best albums, despite the drop in lyrical quality. So it's not a case of wanting him to repeat the past or that I hate anything he puts out, I just think the production on what we have heard of BOT and what we can infer the rest of BOT might sound like, is absolute ass.

Hmmm, interesting that you and some others have come to a conclusion so quickly. Especially when we’ve only heard Rebels and just a clip of Veronica with a production that sounds very different than Rebels.
 
At very first with the new style of Dog, thought wtf..? but now I love it. Really hoping the same for BOT.

But we need to be able to actually hear it properly.

exactly! (y)


I don’t like every Morrissey song, but I do love every Morrissey song simply for his voice!:love:
 
Haaaa. I actually like Low In High School. First 3 tracks are strong, Spent the Day In Bed is fun, tracks 8, 9 and 10 are great. Then it falls off a massive cliff with Who Will Protect Us From the Police? (one of Morrissey's worst released tracks imo) and Israel. Two awful songs.

agree with you there. The music is strong, but for me, the repetition of lyric is hard to get through.
 

to do something different. You don’t think Morrissey approved of the Rebels mix before it was sent to mastering and then released?
 
A forum I once belonged to had a policy of disallowing any discussion of politics; to this day, I really can't decide whether that rule was a good idea or not. It certainly improved the harmony of the board, but then, nowadays so many aspects of life are affected by politics, so it's hard to avoid discussing our times.

just going in circles. Nothing changes.
 
A forum I once belonged to had a policy of disallowing any discussion of politics; to this day, I really can't decide whether that rule was a good idea or not. It certainly improved the harmony of the board, but then, nowadays so many aspects of life are affected by politics, so it's hard to avoid discussing our times.
The people who complain about what others are talking about will always find something else to complain about. They literally complain if we talk about New Order and James.
 
The song is good. That montage is cool, it really highlights how far he's fallen because he was such a larger than life icon--much like his heroes. Make no mistake, Andrew Watt murdered that song. Give it proper production and I am 100% onboard.
To Zoom n' Gloom: I'm serious! He used to be an iconic figure in rock music and had an iconic image. As far as what you are hearing, even the most musically naive novice can tell that the production is ridiculous, unless you believe that Morrissey needs autotune.
 
To Zoom n' Gloom: I'm serious! He used to be an iconic figure in rock music and had an iconic image. As far as what you are hearing, even the most musically naive novice can tell that the production is ridiculous, unless you believe that Morrissey needs autotune.

Well, what’s ‘proper production’? This is subjective.

And is it ‘autotune’? And ‘needs’ in what way? I don’t believe most pop acts today really need autotune. It’s not being used to correct their singing, it’s being abused in order to create a musical ( subjective again) effect, in the same way it was used on Cher’s vocal years ago.

Though, as always, Morrissey signs off on it, it’s his art to do with as he pleases. I don’t know why it’s a surprise to anyone here by now when he explores different sound possibilities or even changes and edits songs on solo reissues. What pleases him comes first, any thought for what his fans may want? they come second, well, more likely, third. :)
 
Hmmm, interesting that you and some others have come to a conclusion so quickly. Especially when we’ve only heard Rebels and just a clip of Veronica with a production that sounds very different than Rebels.
The production sounds extremely condensed and sameish on both. But I get it, you don't like any criticism. Its literally the same production. How many albums have production vary wildly across it when its the same producer/mixer/engineer etc that work on it?
 
The production sounds extremely condensed and sameish on both. But I get it, you don't like any criticism. Its literally the same production. How many albums have production vary wildly across it when its the same producer/mixer/engineer etc that work on it?

Lol. I guess one person’s ‘very different’ is another person’s ‘sameish’. :LOL:

But yes you’re right, Rebels and the Veronica clip we’ve heard both have a production that are indistinguishable from each other. That must be why everyone on here is complaining about the autotune that is used on Morrissey’s voice on Veronica also. :rolleyes:
 
Lol. I guess one person’s ‘very different’ is another person’s ‘sameish’. :LOL:

But yes you’re right, Rebels and the Veronica clip we’ve heard both have a production that are indistinguishable from each other. That must be why everyone on here is complaining about the autotune that is used on Morrissey’s voice on Veronica also. :rolleyes:
I mean it sure sounds autotuned from what we have. At the very least its got some pretty gaudy effects run over it. Its ok if you like terrible sounding music, that's your right. But to say they sounds different is just objectively wrong.
 
A forum I once belonged to had a policy of disallowing any discussion of politics; to this day, I really can't decide whether that rule was a good idea or not. It certainly improved the harmony of the board, but then, nowadays so many aspects of life are affected by politics, so it's hard to avoid discussing our times.
I think on the whole the mods do a good job. People can choose to enter a thread with a political theme or choose not to. I suppose the challenge comes when a thread, like this one, touches on music and politics. But that's Morrissey for you.
 
What he said was not completely without basis, there was a woman arrested a month earlier for killing and eating a cat, but I don't think she was an immigrant. I do think he could have done a little better in the debate but completely disagree with the media that she had a stellar performance and Trump was taking her bait all the time. She basically said the same things Hillary said in 2016. I thought I was watching the same debate. She was not fact checked, he was being fact checked live by moderators in real time during the debate, which my husband and I thought really strange, even tho he was right or somewhat hyperbolic about what he was saying, but not totally wrong. There's a bit of a scandal brewing now, this was on the ABC network and I guess a whistleblower from ABC came forward and said the Harris campaign was given the questions before the debate. Hillary was in 2016 too. So this is just the Dems cheating all over again and if they win, the entire world better worry about it, because it will be bad for everyone.
Yes, the footage of that was disturbing. She wasn't a refugee but it is an indication of how the fabric of society is breaking down.



There were loads of reports in the 2010s that immigrants to the UK from Eastern Europe were eating animals. No one talks about it, of course. Much easier to just keep repeating diversity is our strength.



 
Even this Moz-approved piece labels Tommy Robinson “far right”. He’s essentially a liberal that opposes Islamist fascism. Why not just call him and For Britain Anti-islamist?
 
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