Oasis reunion + Morrissey

[Gregor Samsa]

long may their two decent albums live.

I agree that their first two albums are their best, but if you listen for yourself you’ll find that every subsequent album has several strong tracks. Their last one was a true return to form.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

No, but money is the sole motivation behind this. They still dont like each other very much I suppose.
And the setlist will probably be very predictably hit-oriented, no deep cuts.

It will definitely be great for casual fans who want to hear the hits live, but for people who have seen them in 1994 or 1995 it will likely be quite disappointing. A bit like The Stone Roses reunion.

It makes a lot of sense that the setlist will be heavy on the hits, seeing as they haven’t played live in 15 years and they have a shitload of hits. That said, they are no strangers to pulling out deep cuts and b-sides.

 

[Thewlis]

His audience figures are clearly too low, for the important artist he considers himself to be. The fact, that he likes small venues is an interpretation because he has been booking them for a long time. Think of the huge US Loactions in 1991 or 1992, think of the Hollywood Bowl in 2007. I am convinced that he would like it bigger.

Those are exceptions. Like I said almost all the 35-40 times I've seen him since 1991 have been in smaller sized venues. Even in 1995 on the Boxers-tour, at the height of Britpop, he was playing small venues, and those were perhaps his best ever shows.

He is not the sort of artist for festivals or huge arena's. He is too idiosyncratic and too much of an outsider for that.
And look at the setlists, you can't play too many b-sides or album tracks on festivals or on big stages.
If he would like it bigger, as you suggest, he would cater for those kind of audiences and do a Greatest Hits or even Smiths-tour, like Liam is doing now with his Oasis-themed tour, but he doesn't and will not do so.

 

[Redacted]

Morrissey is not an outsider, he is just an asshole that no one wants to be around. It's not cool to be so abusive that everyone you know leaves you. That being said, hope Liam's grown up a bit, his abuse of Noel is pretty awful considering all the abuse Noel endured from their father growing up.

 

[Thewlis]

Well, at least you care enough to want to be around his solo.com site.

 

[The Alchemist]

How much self-work and personal healing have Noel and Liam done in the last 15 years?

We're about to find out....

One or both of them might currently be on retreat in an ashram.

They're gonna need it....

 

[Phranc & Open]

Morrissey is not an outsider, he is just an asshole that no one wants to be around. It's not cool to be so abusive that everyone you know leaves you. That being said, hope Liam's grown up a bit, his abuse of Noel is pretty awful considering all the abuse Noel endured from their father growing up.

I'll substitute "meanwhile a persona non grata for "asshole", please!

 

[The Alchemist]

This hasn't aged well.

Talking about others:

'a lot of rock stars just coming in and taking the cheque'

Talking about the prospect of an Oasis reunion:

'it's not about the money'

 

[Phranc & Open]

It makes a lot of sense that the setlist will be heavy on the hits, seeing as they haven’t played live in 15 years and they have a shitload of hits. That said, they are no strangers to pulling out deep cuts and b-sides.

Yeah, tha's the Masterplan.
Saw them live during their "Be here now" tour of 1997 in Frankfurt and the experience was underwhelming.

 

[unloveable]

This is some crazy shit, trying to insert Morrissey into an Oasis reunion. Some of the posters here are more delusional than usual. And 'special guest' I think a lot of people would be really unhappy if Morrissey showed up with his crappy setlist and horrible band.

I know it’s crazy, lemme be more specific when I said special guest, in my delusional head was a non announced guest.. Morrissey comes for one song, one little song, smiles in a shy way and leaves the stage while the crowd goes crazy

 

[Dorothy]

I'll substitute "meanwhile a persona non grata for "asshole", please!

I'll substitute "some" for "no one"

 

[Phranc & Open]

I know it’s crazy, lemme be more specific when I said special guest, in my delusional head was a non announced guest.. Morrissey comes for one song, one little song, smiles in a shy way and leaves the stage while the crowd goes crazy

Or....while a riot breaks out and people throw coins with razor blades like they did in Madstock back then.

 

[Bluebirds]

It does make you wonder if this Oasis reformation (tbc) is a success - ie they do all the concerts as planned without any bust-ups, whether Morrissey and Marr could be tempted to do a farewell reunion tour for one last significant pay cheque....

I sincerely hope not. But we are living in strange times.

 

[Dorothy]

I know it’s crazy, lemme be more specific when I said special guest, in my delusional head was a non announced guest.. Morrissey comes for one song, one little song, smiles in a shy way and leaves the stage while the crowd goes crazy

"Smiles in a shy way" - I like it . But no, it's not going to happen!

 

[unloveable]

What makes you think he does? He's never been a crowd pleaser, has he?
I think he is much more at home in smaller venues.
That's where I've always seen him and I wouldn't want to see him anywhere else.

Oh I think that he’s been into small venues because he can’t sell bigger ones and he’s unreliable, but of course he’d like to sell huge and be huge again.

 

[Dorothy]

Noel has said something about not liking the recent Morrissey very much
And Morrissey did diss people using the Oasis song/called them morons and spoke negatively of the One Love Manchester concert Liam was part of
There isn't any reason to include Morrissey in this and he is not even good enough to be support for Oasis, and is not important enough to be a special guest.
This is about Oasis, not giving Morrissey some chance he should earn on his own.

What did Noel say? Think I missed that.

 

[Surface]

Those are exceptions. Like I said almost all the 35-40 times I've seen him since 1991 have been in smaller sized venues. Even in 1995 on the Boxers-tour, at the height of Britpop, he was playing small venues, and those were perhaps his best ever shows.

He is not the sort of artist for festivals or huge arena's. He is too idiosyncratic and too much of an outsider for that.
And look at the setlists, you can't play too many b-sides or album tracks on festivals or on big stages.
If he would like it bigger, as you suggest, he would cater for those kind of audiences and do a Greatest Hits or even Smiths-tour, like Liam is doing now with his Oasis-themed tour, but he doesn't and will not do so.

He played arenas in the UK in 2012, 2015, 2018 and 2020, it's only the last couple of tours he's been playing smaller venues. He's also played festivals over the place so no idea why you say he's not the sort of artist for festivals or huge arenas.

 

[Thewlis]

He played arenas in the UK in 2012, 2015, 2018 and 2020, it's only the last couple of tours he's been playing smaller venues. He's also played festivals over the place so no idea why you say he's not the sort of artist for festivals or huge arenas.

Well, that's my observation. I've seen him at festivals and also in bigger places, but his better gigs were always in the smaller venues, where he was more chatty and seemed to enjoy it more than in the bigger venues.
Like during the Boxers tour in 1995 or the Oye Estebans in 1999/2000. Some of my very favorite shows.

 

[Surface]

Well, that's my observation. I've seen him at festivals and also in bigger places, but his better gigs were always in the smaller venues, where he was more chatty and seemed to enjoy it more than in the bigger venues.
Like during the Boxers tour in 1995 or the Oye Estebans in 1999/2000. Some of my very favorite shows.

I agree he’s better in theatres but you said he doesn’t do arenas and festivals when he does.

 

[Thewlis]

I agree he’s better in theatres but you said he doesn’t do arenas and festivals when he does.

No, I never said he didn't do them. I've seen him at festivals and in bigger arena's, too, though not too often.
I'm saying that I think he prefers playing the smaller ones and I also think his music is more suited for them.