Thewlis
Very Senior Member
True, though I see more women there, generallyNo different to what you see at a Morrissey gig either.
True, though I see more women there, generallyNo different to what you see at a Morrissey gig either.
It will be interesting to see if they appeal to young people in the same way they did in the 90s. It was great to see so many young people at Morrissey's shows in the UK in 2022 and 2023. Don't know what the recent US shows were like? The demographic of the UK is certainly very different in 2024 than it was in 1994. I have nothing against 50 year olds - I recently became one myself! - but I agree that an audience filled with people in their 50s fuelled up on lager and bad coke in an attempt to relive the hedonistic 90s leaves something to be desired. From a money-making point of view, however, they are the demographic you want to reach. People in their 40s and 50s are the ones who will readily fork out £150 for a ticket. I'm sure most Swifties go to see their idol at mum and dad's expense.Saw Oasis twice in 1994 here, amazing atmosphere.
But it really is young man’s music. I somehow can’t see a bunch of guys in their 50s sing about cigarettes and alcohol to a greying and balding audience.
It will be a bit like the Sex Pistols when they reunited
You only have to look at the crowds for Liam's sets at festivals like TRANSMT (this year, see screenshot below) to see thousands upon thousands of teenagers singing their hearts out to the key Oasis songs. These songs are generational anthems, as my 14-year-old - with no prompting from me! - will attest. All of his friends adore Oasis, Blur, Nirvana, etc.It will be interesting to see if they appeal to young people in the same way they did in the 90s. It was great to see so many young people at Morrissey's shows in the UK in 2022 and 2023. Don't know what the recent US shows were like? The demographic of the UK is certainly very different in 2024 than it was in 1994. I have nothing against 50 year olds - I recently became one myself! - but I agree that an audience filled with people in their 50s fuelled up on lager and bad coke in an attempt to relive the hedonistic 90s leaves something to be desired. From a money-making point of view, however, they are the demographic you want to reach. People in their 40s and 50s are the ones who will readily fork out £150 for a ticket. I'm sure most Swifties go to see their idol at mum and dad's expense.
would be a big bit awkward with johnboy probably being on the bill as support act,that would be very weird.Will they bring Rick Astley along?
How about Blur as the support? Be a real litmus test for the times now.How about Blur? They were somewhere inbetween.
If only, they still hate Blur, and Suede and Pulp.How about Blur as the support? Be a real litmus test for the times now.
I was also concerned with the idea, expressed elsewhere, of reintroducing Morrissey to the music world through the upcoming concerts, honouring his achievements as a lyricist and rehabilitating him. That wouldn't work. Not in Manchester and not with OASIS.Yes, just like the Madness crowd in 1992. And I don't think the Bowie crowd couldn't really care either.
Morrissey is and always was very much his own man, he should never support anyone ever again. Leave that to Johnny.
No, definitely wouldn't work. Even if he was invited, he would decline, and quite rightly so.I was also concerned with the idea, expressed elsewhere, of reintroducing Morrissey to the music world through the upcoming concerts, honouring his achievements as a lyricist and rehabilitating him. That wouldn't work. Not in Manchester and not with OASIS.
But he longs for a very large crowd too. Right?No, definitely wouldn't work. Even if he was invited, he would decline, and quite rightly so.
In the 90s he never wanted to associate himself with the Britpop-movement, so why would he want to do so now?
He sails his own ship, or canoe, and has never been a bandwagon-jumper anyway.
What makes you think he does? He's never been a crowd pleaser, has he?But he longs for a very large crowd too. Right?
Insprals are still going, they were on the bill at the James/Marr gig in Lytham. First time I’d seen them and thought they were great.If only, they still hate Blur, and Suede and Pulp.
It will be The La's/Cast, Ashcroft, Johnny, Ocean Colour Scene, Seahorses/Roses, bands they associated with in the 90s.
Inspiral Carpets still going?
Yes, Blur were ok. In the Blur v Oasis showdown, however, I was definitely Oasis.How about Blur? They were somewhere inbetween.
Yes, Blur were ok. In the Blur v Oasis showdown, however, I was definitely Oasis.
Who knows - they may even quickly knock out another album as shit as Be Here Now? Oasis's third album - Be Here Now. Suede's third album - Coming Up. Tells you everything you need to know.The Gallagher's should definitely get their management to reach out to Blur asking them to support, just for laughs. They could also ask Robbie Williams while they're at it.
His audience figures are clearly too low, for the important artist he considers himself to be. The fact, that he likes small venues is an interpretation because he has been booking them for a long time. Think of the huge US Loactions in 1991 or 1992, think of the Hollywood Bowl in 2007. I am convinced that he would like it bigger.What makes you think he does? He's never been a crowd pleaser, has he?
I think he is much more at home in smaller venues.
That's where I've always seen him and I wouldn't want to see him anywhere else.
Who says you can’t like all three (and several more bands at that)?Speaks volumes, Gregor. Silly people liked Oasis. Discerning music fans preferred Suede or Pulp.
And blew both Suede and pulp out of the water.How about Blur? They were somewhere inbetween.