Morrissey Central "GLORIOUS TOUR… GLORIOUS FINALE" (November 28, 2024)

GLORIOUS TOUR… GLORIOUS FINALE

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Waukegan, Illinois.

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MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY

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[Odbmke]

His career is one of the strangest cases of self-destruction you will ever see in pop rock history. His career imploded, not because of drugs or tragedy or anything else other than...laziness and stupidity? Talk about destroying an unbeatable legacy and going out with a whimper! Us original fans are not happy about it but we have the perspective and intelligence to tell it like it is and accept it.

It’s amazing that he survived Act I: The Smiths, Act II: Solo success 89-97, Act III: Solo Resurgence 04-09, only to slide in to Act IV: Burn It All Down 14-present

 

[Odbmke]

Yep. Don’t encourage someone’s right to give an opinion.

Well then let me thank you for your constant encouragement of me to give my opinion.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Well then let me thank you for your constant encouragement of me to give my opinion.

Trust me, no one here thinks you need more encouragement.

It’s obvious you get off on milking your ‘insider’ information, for whatever it’s worth, any chance you get.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Trust me, no one here thinks you need more encouragement.

It’s obvious you get off on milking your ‘insider’ information any chance you get.

Why do you think he’s lying?

 

[Thewlis]

i believe him.

Good for you. Who do you think the singer was that Johnny was supposed to tour with as The Smiths?

 

[Johnnie Ray]

Good for you. Who do you think the singer was that Johnny was supposed to tour with as The Smiths?

I believe him too. You know who would be great as the new singer of The Smiths? Paul Heaton! That would be cool, I'd be onboard.

 

[Multi]

Good for you. Who do you think the singer was that Johnny was supposed to tour with as The Smiths?

the dork from the Killers.

but i also have critical thinking skills and made note that he wasn’t directly involved with the Marr stuff and it’s hearsay. whereas, he was in someway a part of the BOT lead up and that’s the information that is almost certainly true with I Ex-Love You being the only new addition on this tour.

 

[Johnnie Ray]

the dork from the Killers.

but i also have critical thinking skills and made note that he wasn’t directly involved with the Marr stuff and it’s hearsay. whereas, he was in someway a part of the BOT lead up and that’s the information that is almost certainly true with I Ex-Love You being the only new addition on this tour.

Brandon Flowers? That would be EPIC!

 

[Thewlis]

the dork from the Killers.

but i also have critical thinking skills and made note that he wasn’t directly involved with the Marr stuff and it’s hearsay. whereas, he was in someway a part of the BOT lead up and that’s the information that is almost certainly true with I Ex-Love You being the only new addition on this tour.

Yeah, that’s very thin ‘proof’. It could just as well be a coincidence.

I do like the rumour, but as it is, it’s just a rumour and as others have said it is strange that the one posting the rumour was on this board since 1997 and never posted until now.

Maybe he was part of some team but then why would he be so unprofessional to leak info right after the deal broke down in September and then be here to daily talk about this supposed deal…

Seems very unlikely such a person would ever be let near any deal in the music business.

 

[Odbmke]

the dork from the Killers.

but i also have critical thinking skills and made note that he wasn’t directly involved with the Marr stuff and it’s hearsay. whereas, he was in someway a part of the BOT lead up and that’s the information that is almost certainly true with I Ex-Love You being the only new addition on this tour.

Being involved means hearing about more than just the record deal. The Johnny drama. The passport drama was wild too. That was f***ed up and personal and it’s horrible what happened to him there, and it was not an unforced error. The timing of that couldn’t have helped his mindset.

 

[Thewlis]

Brandon Flowers? That would be EPIC!

Yes, he would be a great choice, but he can fill stadiums with his own band. Why would he consider doing it with Marr and why would Marr consider replacing Moz with BF?
It just makes no sense.

 

[Multi]

Yes, he would be a great choice, but he can fill stadiums with his own band. Why would he consider doing it with Marr and why would Marr consider replacing Moz with BF?
It just makes no sense.

pretty sure his original post clearly states that the offer was immediately dismissed and not seriously considered, so maybe try reading what people actually write.

 

[SuedeMoz]

You have to wonder what people are thinking when they don't seem to understand what Morrissey has done to himself and of course people are going to talk about it on a site about Morrissey. Then they try to make you justify your existence here, it's sad and funny at the same time.

I think part of it is people putting importance on what he says - which often is half-truths and sometimes outright lies. Look at the narrative he created around BOT being "held hostage" by Capitol - trying to "silence" him and such. Some people believed it - see this petition ("Capitol Records Does not want this album released because they see Morrissey as a threat for being genuine." Yet Capitol signed him. ). Then emails are leaked telling a far different story, which BTW he never claimed were false. I think real fans should be upset by events like this and it erodes his credibility. But I guess you're only a real fan if you accept being lied to with a smile on your face.

I miss the old days of being a Morrissey fan when it involved reading funny and witty interviews and being inspired by new releases. I hope we can get back to that.

 

[Multi]

Being involved means hearing about more than just the record deal. The Johnny drama. The passport drama was wild too. That was f***ed up and personal and it’s horrible what happened to him there, and it was not an unforced error. The timing of that couldn’t have helped his mindset.

i remember posting on the initial passport thread when it hit. no question in my mind that whomever Moz paid to remove personal valuables from his mom’s estate before the sale did a shitty job.

 

[Odbmke]

i remember posting on the initial passport thread when it hit. no question in my mind that whomever Moz paid to remove personal valuables from his mom’s estate before the sale did a shitty job

Was anything publicly said about its return?

 

[Multi]

Was anything publicly said about its return?

i am pretty sure that the person who found it, posted a follow up in one of the passport threads that he got in touch with management and returned it.

 

[Thewlis]

pretty sure his original post clearly states that the offer was immediately dismissed and not seriously considered, so maybe try reading what people actually write.

I actually just quoted it a few posts back:

‘On the flip side, Marr's camp is extremely dodgy. Management reached out to a very well-known singer of a major band (you can guess who) to see if he'd tour as the lead singer of "The Smiths." Marr's management also floated the idea of Marr touring as the Smiths to UK promoters which was also rejected.‘

So Marrs management twice tried to get a tour going as The Smiths. If we believe this rumour.

 

[Surface]

Later in his statement, Marr also denied speculation that a tour is planned with a different frontman for The Smiths, saying: "There are no such plans."

Johnny Marr: I said no to 2025 Smiths reunion tour offer - BBC News

The Smiths guitarist responds to Morrissey's claims he ignored a lucrative offer to reunite.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Odbmke]

i am pretty sure that the person who found it, posted a follow up in one of the passport threads that he got in touch with management and returned it.

It was quickly returned, although there is a bit of a story there.

 

[Odbmke]

Later in his statement, Marr also denied speculation that a tour is planned with a different frontman for The Smiths, saying: "There are no such plans."

Johnny Marr: I said no to 2025 Smiths reunion tour offer - BBC News

The Smiths guitarist responds to Morrissey's claims he ignored a lucrative offer to reunite.

www.bbc.co.uk

“no such plans” is different than “I didn’t explore other singers”