Morrissey Central "MORRISSEY U.S. TOUR - CONTINUED SUCCESS" (November 10, 2024)

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Indeed he was once able to do that. I don’t see many artists today doing that as we both once did, and that’s what I wondering earlier. . . Which artists have been filling large venues more recently, say, in the past 5 years? And which of those artists do you truly want to see and have praise for their work?

(Face it, part of this is about our society and aging. I won’t go into that here. Man, I’m just going to keep on enjoying Morrissey and whoever else I want to.)
The Cure, for a start.
 
So is age/youth perception the big bugaboo obstacle to the relevance of Morrissey? I said I wasn’t going to mention it really but we’ve arrived here.

We are all aware of aging women becoming invisible, especially to hetero men. Is this a problem as much for aging men? So much to discuss here about age, perception of aging, the music industry and the realities that youthful sexuality is the moneymaker, etc. and that unless you’re deemed sexually attractive by the tastemakers and investors, you’re irrelevant, artistry be damned in the name of the almighty erected tower and mountains of cold hard cash. 😆 but 😔 and 😭 too.

(Signed,
Me at 51 but still very alive and creative)
Emily, most importantly, Brandon has the songs! Image is very important in this business, Lord knows Morrissey used it to his advantage for 15 years! He can no longer play that card and so he has shifted his excuses to being "cancelled" for being too "provocative" which is a joke.

Once upon a time, Morrissey could write lyrics like this about the human condition that you just felt in your entire body!

 
Emily, most importantly, Brandon has the songs! Image is very important in this business, Lord knows Morrissey used it to his advantage for 15 years! He can no longer play that card and so he has shifted his excuses to being "cancelled" for being too "provocative" which is a joke.

Once upon a time, Morrissey could write lyrics like this about the human condition that you just felt in your entire body!


You are insane. The Killers had a truly terrific debut album twenty years ago, but it's been steadily downhill for them ever since. The quality of the songs (and the studio effects on the vocals) on Hot Fuss managed to hide the fact that Brandon Flowers was a cheesy, preening, teeth-whitening, patriotic Mormon who liked Springsteen and dance music. Ever since, it has been made abundantly clear. When Flowers started wearing his feather epaulets, you knew they were basically the American Coldplay. How you can compare the trite lyrics in that shitty Killers song to the past glories of Morrissey is beyond me.

How you even managed to come back to this forum after proudly predicting a Kamala Harris win and trumpeting how you couldn't wait to gloat about it and rub our faces in it is amazing. You truly have no shame or self-awareness. You really need to go back to the politics thread: you have a huge portion of crow to eat.
 
You are insane. The Killers had a truly terrific debut album twenty years ago, but it's been steadily downhill for them ever since. The quality of the songs (and the studio effects on the vocals) on Hot Fuss managed to hide the fact that Brandon Flowers was a cheesy, preening, teeth-whitening, patriotic Mormon who liked Springsteen and dance music. Ever since, it has been made abundantly clear. When Flowers started wearing his feather epaulets, you knew they were basically the American Coldplay. How you can compare the trite lyrics in that shitty Killers song to the past glories of Morrissey is beyond me.
Agree with every word of that. I loved Hot Fuss. But it was indeed downhill from then on.
 
Agree with every word of that. I loved Hot Fuss. But it was indeed downhill from then on.

Johnnie won't be persuaded, of course. His shallow definition of greatness is little more than the ability to draw an arena crowd and have ass-twitching onstage dance energy—and the older the artist, the more impressed he is. He thinks the octogenarian Stones are awesome.

How can someone who compares a current piece of Killers garbage to vintage Morrissey dare to call the rest of us "fake fans"? Johnnie Ray, ladies and gentlemen.
 
You are insane. The Killers had a truly terrific debut album twenty years ago, but it's been steadily downhill for them ever since. The quality of the songs (and the studio effects on the vocals) on Hot Fuss managed to hide the fact that Brandon Flowers was a cheesy, preening, teeth-whitening, patriotic Mormon who liked Springsteen and dance music. Ever since, it has been made abundantly clear. When Flowers started wearing his feather epaulets, you knew they were basically the American Coldplay. How you can compare the trite lyrics in that shitty Killers song to the past glories of Morrissey is beyond me.

How you even managed to come back to this forum after proudly predicting a Kamala Harris win and trumpeting how you couldn't wait to gloat about it and rub our faces in it is amazing. You truly have no shame or self-awareness. You really need to go back to the politics thread: you have a huge portion of crow to eat.
He who mentions Bruce Springsteen, the writer of Downbound Train, Darkness on the Edge of Town, Something in the Night, Racing in the Street and One Step Up, to name but a small fraction of all the great music and lyrics he has written, in the same sentence as teeth whitening, Mormons, dance music and patriotism has no right calling anyone else insane or ignorant. Sad!
 
He who mentions Bruce Springsteen, the writer of Downbound Train, Darkness on the Edge of Town, Something in the Night, Racing in the Street and One Step Up, to name but a small fraction of all the great music and lyrics he has written, in the same sentence as teeth whitening, Mormons, dance music and patriotism has no right calling anyone else insane or ignorant. Sad!

But Flowers really does love Springsteen. And they both have that dramatic, symphonic, roar-of-the-car-engine, you're-my-girl blast of life affirmation. "It ain't no sin to be glad you're alive." I would actually say that Brandon Flowers is to fresh-scrubbed patriotic Mormons with pearly whites what Springsteen is to macho meathead construction workers (and the middle-class masses who romanticize the working-class and live it vicariously in songs). And don't say I'm ignorant, because I'm from New Jersey!
 
But Flowers really does love Springsteen. And they both have that dramatic, symphonic, roar-of-the-car-engine, you're-my-girl blast of life affirmation. "It ain't no sin to be glad you're alive." I would actually say that Brandon Flowers is to fresh-scrubbed patriotic Mormons with pearly whites what Springsteen is to macho meathead construction workers (and the middle-class masses who romanticize the working-class and live it vicariously in songs). And don't say I'm ignorant, because I'm from New Jersey!
Who knows what that Killers bozo is or does! All I know is that my man Brucie contains multitudes!
 
Who knows what that Killers bozo is or does! All I know is that my man Brucie contains multitudes!

Just to direct this little tangent back on-topic (I guess we're doing a "weave"), Morrissey has a funny line somewhere in Autobiography where he mentions the annoying ubiquity of Born in the U.S.A. seeming to blare from every overhead system in Britain during the Thatcher years. Magnify that tenfold and pity us poor New Jerseyans.

I think you are somewhere in your thirties, and I'm not going to pull a Johnnie Ray and accuse you of not being a true Springsteen fan (I believe you truly are one) but if you had been there during that era of Springsteen mania, you would understand where I'm coming from. That album cover is iconic in a bad way because the baseball-hatted, tank-topped, fist-pumping greaser thing was everywhere (talk about a U.S. tour/continued success).
 
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You are insane. The Killers had a truly terrific debut album twenty years ago, but it's been steadily downhill for them ever since. The quality of the songs (and the studio effects on the vocals) on Hot Fuss managed to hide the fact that Brandon Flowers was a cheesy, preening, teeth-whitening, patriotic Mormon who liked Springsteen and dance music. Ever since, it has been made abundantly clear. When Flowers started wearing his feather epaulets, you knew they were basically the American Coldplay. How you can compare the trite lyrics in that shitty Killers song to the past glories of Morrissey is beyond me.

How you even managed to come back to this forum after proudly predicting a Kamala Harris win and trumpeting how you couldn't wait to gloat about it and rub our faces in it is amazing. You truly have no shame or self-awareness. You really need to go back to the politics thread: you have a huge portion of crow to eat.
Like a HOT KNIFE through BUTTER!!! I’m crying! :lbf:
 
 
Just to direct this little tangent back on-topic (I guess we're doing a "weave"), Morrissey has a funny line somewhere in Autobiography where he mentions the annoying ubiquity of Born in the U.S.A. seeming to blare from every overhead system in Britain during the Thatcher years. Magnify that tenfold and pity us poor New Jerseyans.

I think you are somewhere in your thirties, and I'm not going to pull a Johnnie Ray and accuse you of not being a true Springsteen fan (I believe you truly are one) but if you had been there during that era of Springsteen mania, you would understand where I'm coming from. That album cover is iconic in a bad way because the baseball-hatted, tank-topped, fist-pumping greaser thing was everywhere (talk about a U.S. tour/continued success).
I understand and I’m sorry that this made you unable to appreciate his work.

Ps. Even Bruce had enough of this after the tour in 1985. He told an interviewer in 1987, promoting Tunnel of Love, the deeply personal and gloomy follow up to BItUSA, that he was “Bruced out”.
 
Johnnie won't be persuaded, of course. His shallow definition of greatness is little more than the ability to draw an arena crowd and have ass-twitching onstage dance energy—and the older the artist, the more impressed he is. He thinks the octogenarian Stones are awesome.

How can someone who compares a current piece of Killers garbage to vintage Morrissey dare to call the rest of us "fake fans"? Johnnie Ray, ladies and gentlemen.
You are insane. The Killers are awesome! Morrissey is not even in the same league as Brandon Flowers.
 
You are insane. The Killers had a truly terrific debut album twenty years ago, but it's been steadily downhill for them ever since. The quality of the songs (and the studio effects on the vocals) on Hot Fuss managed to hide the fact that Brandon Flowers was a cheesy, preening, teeth-whitening, patriotic Mormon who liked Springsteen and dance music. Ever since, it has been made abundantly clear. When Flowers started wearing his feather epaulets, you knew they were basically the American Coldplay. How you can compare the trite lyrics in that shitty Killers song to the past glories of Morrissey is beyond me.

How you even managed to come back to this forum after proudly predicting a Kamala Harris win and trumpeting how you couldn't wait to gloat about it and rub our faces in it is amazing. You truly have no shame or self-awareness. You really need to go back to the politics thread: you have a huge portion of crow to eat.
 
Just to direct this little tangent back on-topic (I guess we're doing a "weave"), Morrissey has a funny line somewhere in Autobiography where he mentions the annoying ubiquity of Born in the U.S.A. seeming to blare from every overhead system in Britain during the Thatcher years. Magnify that tenfold and pity us poor New Jerseyans.

I think you are somewhere in your thirties, and I'm not going to pull a Johnnie Ray and accuse you of not being a true Springsteen fan (I believe you truly are one) but if you had been there during that era of Springsteen mania, you would understand where I'm coming from. That album cover is iconic in a bad way because the baseball-hatted, tank-topped, fist-pumping greaser thing was everywhere (talk about a U.S. tour/continued success).
Another band waaaaay better than current Morrissey:

 
Confirmed :hammer:

Trolling is Johnnie Ray’s middle name.
 

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