Morrissey Central "KATHY BURKE" (September 15, 2024)

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KATHY BURKE - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - KATHY BURKE

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• Kathy Burke's recent views on Morrissey (July 8, 2024)

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

Kathy Burke is a mean man!

She's a great comedian.........she's just lost her working class roots.

 

[trevS]

Who the f*** cares what these people think, they're paid to act, not preach to us about their politics. I wonder what they think about their cherished Labour now that Starmer's gone all Dr Evil on the oldies. Silence do you hear that.....

...This is a Morrissey forum...

 

[BrokenFrame]

She's a great comedian.........she's just lost her working class roots.

I only remember Kathy burke from harry Enfield show and Gimme Gimme Gimme.
"Gimme" was a bit cringey.

 

[trevS]

KB came across as common as muck on The Importance of Being Morrissey. Her uneducated and base comments were cringeworthy cackles from a recently decapitated chicken's head.

Oh man...she's GORGEOUS!!! I know, I know...I'm not supposed to objectify women...

She takes such good care of herself too.

(Of course I'm kidding!)

One thing I do pity Morrissey about.

He may see some of his remaining fans reacting by calling the much-loved KB working class, fat and ugly...

 

[BrokenFrame]

One thing I do pity Morrissey about.

He may see some of his remaining fans reacting by calling the much-loved KB working class, fat and ugly...

so, she's not working class?

 

[trevS]

so, she's not working class?

Not sure Morrissey would consider a working class person "sounding common" to be an insult - which as you know, was the point.

Insults so lazy, shallow or snobby, are pretty-much the antithesis of why we liked Morrissey's lyrics in the first place.

 

[BrokenFrame]

Not sure Morrissey would consider a working class person "sounding common" to be an insult - which as you know, was the point.

Insults so lazy, shallow or snobby, are pretty-much the antithesis of why we liked Morrissey's lyrics in the first place.

He might consider it an insult, if you recall him saying Sadiq khan can't talk properly.

 

[Roman Holiday]

Her opinions on Morrissey aside, I think Kathy Burke has a great look, especially in the vein of the unglamorous characters in 60s kitchen sink/Ken Loach/Mike Leigh movies, something I suspect Morrissey might’ve appreciated enough to have her be interviewed for his authorized documentary. I don’t know anything about her comedy and it may be cringe, but her face was perfect for the sickly Queen Mary in that Elizabeth movie.

 

[trevS]

Very true...though I suspect his impressively extreme outrage at Khan for saying London is an "amazin'" city was motivated by things other than snobbishness. Waters aside, he's often found politicians safe targets.

[Irritating when ppl quote sitcoms, but...] The posts saying 'well she's fat and ugly' makes me think of the scene from I'm Alan Partridge where he has Lynn talk to his ex-wife. As he increasingly finds himself to have no power or arguments, he ends with "just call her a fat cow, and hang up".

 

[BrokenFrame]

Very true...though I suspect his impressively extreme outrage at Khan for saying London is an "amazin'" city was motivated by things other than snobbishness. Waters aside, he's often found politicians safe targets.

[Irritating when ppl quote sitcoms, but...] The posts saying 'well she's fat and ugly' makes me think of the scene from I'm Alan Partridge where he has Lynn talk to his ex-wife. As he increasingly finds himself to have no power or arguments, he ends with "just call her a fat cow, and hang up".

Moz had his partridge style moments in autobiography.

He describes Judge Weeks as "ringing his creased little hangman's hands whilst resembling a pile of untouched sandwiches".

I don't think he's so different from his fans in this regard.

 

[All the things you love]

But that's good hatred I suppose. That's the socially acceptable form. Sugar free, fat free, "good for you gut bacteria" hatred and bile.

 

[gashonthenail]

But that's good hatred I suppose. That's the socially acceptable form. Sugar free, fat free, "good for you gut bacteria" hatred and bile.

It's the way of the woke now. They know they can't win a debate - how can you make a good argument for open borders and mass immigration? So the only option left is to shout 'racist' at people. Very sad.

 

[All the things you love]

It's the way of the woke now. They know they can't win a debate - how can you make a good argument for open borders and mass immigration? So the only option left is to shout 'racist' at people. Very sad.

I don't share your views, but I do agree with what Moz said recently about the "#BeKind brigade on Twitter". I do think liberals go after people in a disturbing way. I distanced myself from politics to protect my peace of mind.

 

[BrummieBoy]

With deference to speech laws being different in the UK, would Burke have been likely to lose a libel case for these comments if Morrissey had sued? (Assuming that is what "legal proceedings" referred to).

Given the absolute debacle of a legal clusterfcuk that Lawrence Fox got consumed by, Morrissey would be seriously ill-advised to sue anybody over stupid allegations of racism. Morrissey isn't a racist, he's just a provocative media troll. Some of his 'contributions' to discussions of immigration and veganism have been needlessly cruel but he's entitled to free speech and the consequences of expressing his views.

I suspect that if Morrissey did sue Kathy Burke for libel, he'd lose, like Fox, because he's anathema now to the media and Establishment taste-makers and gatekeepers who once lauded him as a Male Feminist, and the Uniparty-Unimedia would love a show trial where every dubious remark Morrissey has made could be weaponised against him.

Morrissey is not a racist.

The problematic issue remains his support for For Britain. They weren't racist either but avowedly paranoid about Islam and 'Muslims taking over'.

As most British Muslims have brown or black skin the virtue-signalling eejits at the BBC-RTE Guardian nexus of nonsense parrot the Hope Not Hate fallacy that anti-Muslim bigotry, which they erroneously call 'Islamophobia', is racist. It isn't because Religion isn't synonymous with Race even if it's easy to make that category error mistake.

Morrissey really is like The Queen of England in one sense : 'never explain'...but he constantly complains about his self-inflicted woes...

Morrissey has a 'get out of jail' card. He simply needs to explain that he regrets associating with a fringe political group who totalise all Muslims as potential threats to UK security. I remember well the same febrile knee-jerk reactions after the Birmingham Pub Bombings of 1974...then Irish people were all designated as 'the enemy within the borders'.

Kathy Burke retracted because there's no racism she could refer to to justify her outburst.

Morrissey is a troll but he is NOT a racist. End of...

BrummieBoy

 

[BrummieBoy]

I realise that it sounds pretty rich for me to state this, as I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to endless and public speculation: nevertheless, I do wish that public figures kept their views on Moz's behaviour more private. And, most importantly, that those who know or knew him, like Kathy Burke, at least tried to communicate with him privately about their concerns...otherwise, with some of them, it can look as if they're just jumping on a bandwagon of lazy and unnuanced criticism in order to boost their own public popularity.

I don't 'do' relentless criticism or praise of Morrissey, Marr or Mike or Andy - deliberately. And it's likely true that some of Morrissey's behaviour is what it appears to be - simply unwise, at least. But, in his specific case, I think there's more to it than meets the eye, and quite often too. For example, when he 'ghosts' people or refrains or drops communication: speaking from experience, such behaviour is not always mere wilfulness or a power-play or acting inconsiderately or whatever. Instead, feeling utterly overwhelmed even by the prospect of a simple chat, an exchange of messages, a knock on the door, a telephone ringing (let alone by the prospect of a long tour away from the mental security of home) etc etc...these mostly everyday things can be, for the experiencer, a terrible 'blizzard' of all too many and unpredictable possible outcomes to consider; such frequently minor events of life can be distressing to the point of 'shutdowns' and a resultant turning-away from the world until one feels able to cope again (and then only temporarily).

I believe that Johnny, and even the Smiths' multiple would-be managers, commendably tried their very best to understand these habits of Morrissey's and were at pains to be understanding and patient; but the key points are that a) these habits are, naturally, difficult for others to properly understand, b) as stated previously, the habits can appear to be simply ignorant, arrogant, irresponsible etc, and c) frequently, such displays of 'temperament' are no such things - they can instead be behaviours for which Morrissey is not actually to blame. These may not be the result of self-indulgence at all, and in truth you can bet that - when he dares to examine his own behaviour (and this is a brave thing to do) - he is actually frightened by the logical extension of it all...because this experience can be like staring into an abyss and feeling tempted to 'fall'.

You are describing the symptomology and morbid sequelae of serious emotional and mental illnesses but...they are treatable...and Morrissey is rich enough to access the best possible care so his endless pity party is just narcissistic self-regard.

BB

 

[BrummieBoy]

Yes, for their treatment of animals

Not all Chinese people treat animals that way. You are profoundly ignorant as was Morrissey.

No Chinese Veganism?

Do one...clownery on stilts...

 

[trevS]

Given the absolute debacle of a legal clusterfcuk that Lawrence Fox got consumed by, Morrissey would be seriously ill-advised to sue anybody over stupid allegations of racism. Morrissey isn't a racist, he's just a provocative media troll. Some of his 'contributions' to discussions of immigration and veganism have been needlessly cruel but he's entitled to free speech and the consequences of expressing his views.

I suspect that if Morrissey did sue Kathy Burke for libel, he'd lose, like Fox, because he's anathema now to the media and Establishment taste-makers and gatekeepers who once lauded him as a Male Feminist, and the Uniparty-Unimedia would love a show trial where every dubious remark Morrissey has made could be weaponised against him.

Morrissey is not a racist.

The problematic issue remains his support for For Britain. They weren't racist either but avowedly paranoid about Islam and 'Muslims taking over'.

As most British Muslims have brown or black skin the virtue-signalling eejits at the BBC-RTE Guardian nexus of nonsense parrot the Hope Not Hate fallacy that anti-Muslim bigotry, which they erroneously call 'Islamophobia', is racist. It isn't because Religion isn't synonymous with Race even if it's easy to make that category error mistake.

Morrissey really is like The Queen of England in one sense : 'never explain'...but he constantly complains about his self-inflicted woes...

Morrissey has a 'get out of jail' card. He simply needs to explain that he regrets associating with a fringe political group who totalise all Muslims as potential threats to UK security. I remember well the same febrile knee-jerk reactions after the Birmingham Pub Bombings of 1974...then Irish people were all designated as 'the enemy within the borders'.

Kathy Burke retracted because there's no racism she could refer to to justify her outburst.

Morrissey is a troll but he is NOT a racist. End of...

BrummieBoy

All legal sources (even paralegals) were clear that the Laurence Fox case was cast-iron.

The issue is that on social media and forums, we hear only partisan snippets about cases. It's only interesting enough to discuss if something appears to be:
- An inexplicable injustice
- A deserved humiliation

Reality's more complex. For Britain, however...We'll agree to disagree on whether they're racist or bigoted, as like most ppl I think they were entirely open in making that their selling point!

I'm with Nigel Farage on that - didn't he call them "racists and Nazis"?

 

[BrummieBoy]

All legal sources (even paralegals) were clear that the Laurence Fox case was cast-iron.

The issue is that on social media and forums, we hear only partisan snippets about cases. It's only interesting enough to discuss if something appears to be:
- An inexplicable injustice
- A deserved humiliation

Reality's more complex. For Britain, however...We'll agree to disagree on whether they're racist or bigoted, as like most ppl I think they were entirely open in making that their selling point!

I'm with Nigel Farage on that - didn't he call them "racists and Nazis"?

Fox, like Joey Barton, was incredibly dim-witted to start throwing the word 'paedophile' around- as indeed was Elon Musk because a British diver rubbished his cave rescue plan for those trapped Thai kids...

The pseudo-Left have robbed words like 'racist' and 'fascist' of explanatory power with their childish gibberish.

Fox was wrong to casually use that word describing a heinous crime as an X playground insult but the Judge was remiss in not policing the nonsense of the pseudo-Left too.

Everyone I don't like is literally Hitler...etcetera...

Morrissey playing the victim script over free speech when he runs like a Norman Toraigh toe-rag Tory Boy to demand protection from the House Of Lords? Fcukin do one, Steven...

We need a 1st Amendment here in the United Kingdom to stop rich and powerful clowns abusing libel laws.

Calling someone a 'racist' in England or the United Kingdom in 2024 is a meaningless slur because it's been robbed of its denunciatory power by my moronic Boomer peers in politics and the media.

By threatening legal action against the hapless has-been Kathy Burke, Morrissey is merely giving her a credibility she doesn't deserve as she's just another useless faux-liberal 'comic' who sticks to the lowest common denominator script.

Brexit is bad!!!

I bet she shops at Waitrose and goes to every new Somalian restaurant in town just to virtue-signal her compliance with the totalitarian 'be kind' liberal clerisy orthodoxy.

I once crashed on Paul Whitehouse and Charlie Higson's floor in a squat in Hackney. They were very funny then and Paul's fishing malarkey with wotsisname is very good now.

What has Kathy Burke done in the past two decades? She's hardly a household name outside of the bin fire of X these days, is she?

A discarded, irrelevant ex-comic makes a stupid claim and Morrissey vests power in her corpsed career by responding?

Ignore her. She's a troll too, just like you are, Steven. Both of ye: STFU.

And you two clowns, Barton and Fox. Such eejits..

BrummieBoy
Malvern
Mercia
England

 

[Cornflakes]

and would anyone notice?

Would anyone watch?

 

[Rodrigo Borgia]

She looks like a competitive eater. Was she at the Coney Island hot dog eating contest?