Morrissey Central "KATHY BURKE" (September 15, 2024)

Sony Publishing website have complied with a request to remove hateful comments made against Morrissey by media personality Kathy Burke. Legal proceedings were avoided.

KATHY BURKE - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - KATHY BURKE

MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY

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• Kathy Burke's recent views on Morrissey (July 8, 2024)

 

[BrokenFrame]

He was talking about their treatment of animals. I'm sure he would be very happy to state that people in China, or anywhere else, who don't mistreat animals are not subhuman. It was nothing to do with being Chinese - that is the point.

He could have chosen his words more carefully. Though I think he was aiming to grab headlines.
I dont think he's racist really, but I took it as a racist statement. Whatever the reason he generalised they were a subspecies for reason x, y and z.

 

[Anonymous]

He was talking about their treatment of animals. I'm sure he would be very happy to state that people in China... who don't mistreat animals are not subhuman.

Except he didn't then and he hasn't since.

 

[Anonymous]

He was sued for libel for calling 2 activists 'paedophiles'. And he lost the case. He tried to counter sue, as the same 2 people called him 'racist', but the judge ruled that this was unlikely to cause serious harm to his reputation and dismissed the counter sue claim. A rather biased ruling.

Laurence Fox loses High Court libel case over social media row

The actor-turned-politician was sued by two men after he called them paedophiles in a social media row.

www.bbc.co.uk

Important to note here that the judge reached this ruling using the centuries-old libel law litmus test of "right-thinking members of society". In effect the judge ruled that calling Fox a racist would not harm his reputation because most right-thinking members of society already think Fox is a racist.

So basically Morrissey would lose his case if the judge decided the average "man in the street" would agree with what Kathy Burke said. Would they?

 

[Anonymous]

True, it wasn't worded precisely, but anyone with the faintest of intelligence would understand what he meant, given the context.

And, indeed, anyone (other than a sycophant) with the faintest intelligence would understand why it was a racist remark, the meaning of which remained unaltered by the context.

 

[Seymour Glass]

Look at this hideous frumpy monster!

 

[Famous when dead]

Right, the Sterogum article (mainly re: Marr/copyright) suggests the podcast has been edited - so not a separate recording, but removed from the main show. That would explain why I couldn't find it last night.
FWD.

 

[starman1973]

For some reason now I'm humming All the Lazy Dykes to myself

 

[Luxo]

The first statement you quote equates being Polish with being subhuman.
Whereas Moz equated eating dogs with being subhuman.
Very different.

He labelled a whole people, 18% of the world's population, as a subspecies, essentially another term for subhuman.

The context of it doesn't matter much. I think that eating any animal or its eggs or dairy is absolutely abhorrent and disgusting, but I don't consider the whole of meat eating or vegetarian population to be a subspecies or subhuman because, frankly, using that sort of language is just insane.

 

[Luxo]

He could have chosen his words more carefully. Though I think he was aiming to grab headlines.
I dont think he's racist really, but I took it as a racist statement. Whatever the reason he generalised they were a subspecies for reason x, y and z.

This is my take as well. Do I think he's a full blown racist? Nah. Is he an idiot, not as intelligent as people assume, who says really f***ing stupid things, especially when he is passionate about the subject? Yes, absolutely.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

This is my take as well. Do I think he's a full blown racist? Nah. Is he an idiot, not as intelligent as people assume,

who says really f***ing stupid things, especially when he is passionate about the subject? Yes, absolutely.

Yes, a lot of the thoughts and actions of animal activists are seen this way, especially by those that eat animals.

 

[Anonymous]

This is my take as well. Do I think he's a full blown racist? Nah. Is he an idiot, not as intelligent as people assume, who says really f***ing stupid things, especially when he is passionate about the subject? Yes, absolutely.

I think it's a little more nuanced than that - I think he's both an idiot and a racist, in some respects (with regard, for example, to Middle and Far Eastern Asian people - I'm pretty convinced that Morrissey just doesn't like Pakistanis, Chinese, Arabs, etc). On the other hand, he is clearly a lyrical genius and is not afraid to make non-pc yet accurate and truthful observations, e.g., speaking out against the evidently uncontrolled surge in immigration to the British Isles long before most of the middle class chatterati, who are now all-too-willing to agree with him, were prepared to publicly confess their true feelings about it.

 

[Anonymous]

This is so stupid, because wouldn’t the best way to have gone about this is to ignore it? Like why even bother? She was just stating her opinion anyway, which people are allowed to have.

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

she does slag him off quite often on twitter

Its prob due to idiots like Harry Hill M fled to the USA

Kathy is a silly old moo

 

[Luxo]

This is so stupid, because wouldn’t the best way to have gone about this is to ignore it? Like why even bother? She was just stating her opinion anyway, which people are allowed to have.

The hypocrisy of Morrissey is just pathetic.

Morrissey does an interview with the Telegraph, a very right wing paper owned by a billionaire, claiming that he is being "gagged", while gagging the opinions of Kathy Burke.

 

[BurgerButt]

Surely then, you don't care about what Morrissey thinks and don't listen to his music if you don't care about what he thinks.

I don't care what he thinks, or what his views are, i believe in his right to have them, whether i agree with them or not.

His lyrics can be interpreted in many ways, again why should i let a lyric have a bearing on whether i like him as an artist/his music. I mean ffs some of you lot like Marr solo, if you let Marr's lyrics dictate to you, you'd all be wearing nappy's and playing with paw patrol

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

Stupid.............left-wing, liberal, deluluded cantsssssssssssssssssssss.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

The hypocrisy of Morrissey is just pathetic.

Morrissey does an interview with the Telegraph, a very right wing paper owned by a billionaire, claiming that he is being "gagged", while gagging the opinions of Kathy Burke.

f*** me........if you think the Telegraph is right-wing, you need to get out the house more.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

If he could successfully argue he's not a racist wanker. Would be the trial of the century.

Are racists wan*ers? Aren't all globalists?

 

[gashonthenail]

The hypocrisy of Morrissey is just pathetic.

Morrissey does an interview with the Telegraph, a very right wing paper owned by a billionaire, claiming that he is being "gagged", while gagging the opinions of Kathy Burke.

He hasn't gagged Kathy Burke. She said something defamatory about him in an interview. Sony (quite rightly) have removed the defamatory material. Most sane people think that there are reasonable limits on freedom of speech - incitement to commit a crime, defamation, and shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre.

 

[BrokenFrame]

Kathy Burke is a mean man!