Los Angeles, CA - Hollywood Palladium (December 31, 2024) post-show

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Setlist:

First Of The Gang To Die / All You Need Is Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / Shoplifters Of The World Unite / Sure Enough, The Telephone Rings / One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell / Rebels Without Applause / Black Cloud / I Am Veronica / I Ex-Love You / I Wish You Lonely / Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want / Darling, I Hug A Pillow / Life Is A Pigsty / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Jack The Ripper / Speedway / I Will See You In Far-off Places // In Memory Of Montage

Setlist courtesy of The Hooded Claw


 
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Speaking for myself, I love a good car crash. Especially when I’ve been watching that car drive down the autobahn for 35 years already, with no real indication this was coming.

Never one for 'orthodox' career choices clearly. But it's his career to determine / manage / handicap / wreck his own way. Delete as appropriate. But as someone who grew up in working class Manfester, he hasn't done too badly.
 
Never one for 'orthodox' career choices clearly. But it's his career to determine / manage / handicap / wreck his own way. Delete as appropriate. But as someone who grew up in working class Manfester, he hasn't done too badly.
He’s the most “orthodox” artist ever. He can’t release a song without the help/blessing/encouragement/pat on the back of a major corporation that I’m sure he’d discover, if he looked hard enough, owns a subsidiary somewhere that clubs seals in Canada.

He sacrificed the release of two albums on the alter of St. Miley Cyrus background vocals. Because “it would help me 700%, and it would shock the print media, and it would shock radio, and we'd be off
to a great start.” Radio? Print media? Sounds pretty orthodox to me.

He signed with Rough Trade because it was the only option he had. He hasn’t come within spitting distance of anything indie/diy/whatever you wanna call it since the Smiths signed to EMI.
 
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He’s the most “orthodox” artist ever. He can’t release a song without the help/blessing/encouragement/pat on the back of a major corporation.

He signed with Rough Trade because it was the only option he had. He hasn’t come within spitting distance of anything indie/diy/whatever you wanna call it since the Smiths signed to EMI.
How about last September?
 
Never one for 'orthodox' career choices clearly. But it's his career to determine / manage / handicap / wreck his own way. Delete as appropriate. But as someone who grew up in working class Manfester, he hasn't done too badly.
He has a larger solo discography than most major artists have had in the last 36 years. All released on major labels.

For someone who is reportedly hard to work with, he has done incredibly well.
 
He has a larger solo discography than most major artists have had in the last 36 years. All released on major labels.

For someone who is reportedly hard to work with, he has done incredibly well.
He has done well, because he's a great singer and a lyricist. But because he is reportedly so hard to work with, he has spent the majority of the last 30 years without a record contract. Just imagine what we could have got, if he didn't have to spend all that time and energy hunting for a record deal and could have concentrated on writing and recording.
 
He has done well, because he's a great singer and a lyricist. But because he is reportedly so hard to work with, he has spent the majority of the last 30 years without a record contract. Just imagine what we could have got, if he didn't have to spend all that time and energy hunting for a record deal and could have concentrated on writing and recording.
True, we could have had even more.

But with some 300 songs, 13 studio albums and even more comps, he has already released more than most artists did in the past 36 years. And all on major labels.
 
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He has done well, because he's a great singer and a lyricist. But because he is reportedly so hard to work with, he has spent the majority of the last 30 years without a record contract. Just imagine what we could have got, if he didn't have to spend all that time and energy hunting for a record deal and could have concentrated on writing and recording.
He's had no trouble writing and recording. He has 2 albums recorded, and there may well be a third coming at some point.
 
He's had no trouble writing and recording. He has 2 albums recorded, and there may well be a third coming at some point.
Those $250 signed LPs have been covering Damon’s salary while Moz is pouring his own money into recording and re-recording LPs that no label has asked to release.

We are getting close to Monty Python territory

Ok ok, maybe one unorthodox and genius thing he’s done is to figure out that we all already have his albums, so why not just sell us autographed copies of other peoples albums. Sad and lame, but also unorthodox and kinda genius.
 
I am pretty sure anyone can get studio time and record if they are paying for it
 
He’s the most “orthodox” artist ever. He can’t release a song without the help/blessing/encouragement/pat on the back of a major corporation that I’m sure he’d discover, if he looked hard enough, owns a subsidiary somewhere that clubs seals in Canada.

He sacrificed the release of two albums on the alter of St. Miley Cyrus background vocals. Because “it would help me 700%, and it would shock the print media, and it would shock radio, and we'd be off
to a great start.” Radio? Print media? Sounds pretty orthodox to me.

He signed with Rough Trade because it was the only option he had. He hasn’t come within spitting distance of anything indie/diy/whatever you wanna call it since the Smiths signed to EMI.
Kind of true. He wanted to be signed to fecking Factory from what some people in Manchester said, back in the day. Including Frank Owen
They turned him down. Mainly due to M not Marr. Marr was well respected in Manchester.
M was known, but he was considered deeply odd by many
In M's mind, Rough Trade were the next best thing. The moment The Smiths were big in the UK and started to get serious attention in the USA was around Meat Is Murder. A lot if us thought it took M by surprise. If you notice, he started to be less queer in some ways. This is when he started to aim bigger. and be unhappy with Rough Trade and start lying about things. He claimed they did no PR and that the radio never played The Smiths, all untrue
In the UK, The Smiths were loved by NME, they had posters all over cities, they were on the radio
on TV in magazines. M wanted to be on a major now, in his mind The Smiths could be as big as Queen
 
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