Morrissey Central "'UMM, MORRISSEY JUST ISN’T DIVERSE ENOUGH FOR OUR LABEL …" (December 6, 2024)

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[ACTON]

Sean Penn didn't mince words at the Marrakech Film Festival, calling out the Oscars for their "extraordinary cowardice" in limiting cultural expression and imagination, loving diversity in appearance but panicking when it comes to diversity of thought. He praised films like The Apprentice while encouring people to embrace political incorrectness in storytelling.

 

[gordyboy9]

He's a gay, arguably racist, possibly autistic, conservative and liberal. He's pretty diverse! Somehow I don't think that's the problemo.

were you looking in a mirror when you wrote this.

 

[ACTON]

Yeah but neither Bob nor Tim have the balls to call out PC culture on its myriad bullshit. Morrissey does. And he's pilloried for it.

For the record I am a huge Cure fan. Just saying.

Bob had the balls to call out Ticketmaster and tried to stop fans getting cornholed by dynamic pricing. When did Moz give a shite what people pay? Charging ridiculous amounts for his scrawl on a Bowie record. Robert Smith knows he's a brilliant artist who wants to make great music. He's not up on his soapbox.

 

[gashonthenail]

That's a model Morrissey could totally follow. He's only limited by his openness and creativity about how to release his music. Unfortunately, it's a huge limitation because he's not open to anything but an 80s/90s record company model, and that ship seems to have sailed. Ironically, if the Smiths were just starting today... they would probably have no interest in a record deal, and would be all about crowdsourcing, self-reliance, and self-release.

Completely agree. Morrissey seems to have spent his life waiting for that knock on the door.
You should never go to them, let them come to you. First it was Johnny. Then it was Stephen Street. Then another record label. But all that is in the past. Maybe that knock is no longer going to come? He needs to say to the big labels - I ex-love you - and release Bonfire himself.

 

[TheSmiths_1985]

He needs to say to the big labels - I ex-love you.

It doesn’t pack quite the same punch when they’ve said it to him first.

 

[Surface]

Bob had the balls to call out Ticketmaster and tried to stop fans getting cornholed by dynamic pricing. When did Moz give a shite what people pay? Charging ridiculous amounts for his scrawl on a Bowie record. Robert Smith knows he's a brilliant artist who wants to make great music. He's not up on his soapbox.

Paul Heaton did the same and set the prices for his arena tour at 35 quid

 

[Skylarker]

Bob had the balls to call out Ticketmaster and tried to stop fans getting cornholed by dynamic pricing. When did Moz give a shite what people pay? Charging ridiculous amounts for his scrawl on a Bowie record. Robert Smith knows he's a brilliant artist who wants to make great music. He's not up on his soapbox.

You are not wrong.

 

[ACTON]

Completely agree. Morrissey seems to have spent his life waiting for that knock on the door.
You should never go to them, let them come to you. First it was Johnny. Then it was Stephen Street. Then another record label. But all that is in the past. Maybe that knock is no longer going to come? He needs to say to the big labels - I ex-love you - and release Bonfire himself.

Moz needs to self-release (snigger, chortle). And get himself that old hat from the Suedehead video.

 

[Anonymous]

The 'not diverse enough/gagged for his political views' stuff is just convenient scapegoating. The truth is Morrissey is a lot of hassle for any record label to deal with, and - these days - he brings in very little financial return. If he was selling records by the shedload, the major labels would put up with all of his diva shenanigans. He doesn't, so unless he can work in some deal that includes his back catalogue, or cracks opens the door to some mythical financial goldmine Smiths reunion, why would any of them bother? He's just not worth bothering with.

 

[marred]

How can one person not be diverse enough?

 

[marred]

Yeah but neither Bob nor Tim have the balls to call out PC culture on its myriad bullshit. Morrissey does. And he's pilloried for it.

For the record I am a huge Cure fan. Just saying.

Exactly right. Apart from an anti monarchy comment he made years ago Smith pretty much keeps quiet and quiet is easy to manage.

 

[Leroy]

The thing that breaks my heart the most is how oblivious he is to the fact that he is so utterly out of touch with reality. Yes, the lyrics and the songs are fantastic (he's the greatest of all time in my opinion) but he is simply not a big enough artist for any major label to waste their time on.
And it really would be a 'waste of time.'
Since the earliest days of The Smiths, Morrissey has, for whatever reason, fallen out with too many people to be trusted. Too many to list here but from Joe Moss to Jo Slee, Geoff Travis to Gail Coulson, Johnny and Mike to David Bowie..... the list really is endless.
As wonderful as the songs are, it might be for the best if he calls time on any hope of a record deal and sticks to playing for his still-dedicated audience whenever he feels the urge.
And, for the love of God, please please PLEASE shut down that bloody awful website.

 

[Mike Thomas]

Morrissey is estimated to have a net worth somewhere close to 50 million dollars US. That is more than enough to self release and promote/start your own label. There are independent podcasts today that take in around $500,000 yearly and have great videography and promotional tools. In today’s just do it yourself internet, it’s easier than ever to self promote your art. If the basic internet searches I did are anywhere close to his actual networth he has the ability to hire a small team and just make this happen. Start your own label, never mind being backed by an Indie or Major. He already has a head start with his legacy and financial net worth. What’s his deal? Does his ego think he should be in the legacy artist camp of say a late career Bowie or a Paul McCartney?

 

[krieger]

Bunnymen, Chameleons, R.E.M., Sundays, Prefab Sprout, Wild Swans, Triffids, Siouxsie, Lloyd Cole, Wedding Present, Jesus and Mary Chain, Go-Betweens, Felt, Field Mice, Saint Etienne, Aztec Camera, The Sound etc etc

Amazing list - Chameleons, The Sound, The Triffids = brilliant.

 

[DaveJCarr]

If he as the emails, quotes/whatever that can be corroborated, why not release them? Saddle up with Brand, or Tucker, or one of those folks and name and collusion those he clearly thinks are guilty of cowardice and collusion. If he believes, he is "gagged " what other consequence does have to fear from airing every verifiable thing?" Can't be double gagged after all It might that those label execs invoke that they're using the specter of diversity age, etc to spare his feelings (e.g. that they don't find the music good (in the sense of marketable and profitable.

Notre Dame is reopening, and Trump was the invited feted guest, If there were a time for the edgelord conspiratioal anthem. it's freshness has seemingly closed. The causes Morrissey seems to care most deeply in the culture war (as reflected in his songs and interviews, are are doing just fine without him. His missivies not needed for immigration numbers to decline, for governments to rachet up pressure on terrorist activists, to wax poetically about monoethnic and fixed culture and tradition. These are not radical positions if elections in the US/UK and elsewhere are reflective of what a lot of people think. He's rebelling for causes that have, for the moment, seem to have been won, in ways thar accord with hid concerns. He's irrelevant as harbinger.

 

[Redacted]

Bob had the balls to call out Ticketmaster and tried to stop fans getting cornholed by dynamic pricing. When did Moz give a shite what people pay? Charging ridiculous amounts for his scrawl on a Bowie record. Robert Smith knows he's a brilliant artist who wants to make great music. He's not up on his soapbox.

True, it takes a lot of balls to get into a public spat with ticketmaster, much more than acting like a petulant 12 year old spouting off nonsense and blaming everyone else for the consequences.

 

[Lujan369]

Moz needs to look at his happy concert crowds, his mega bank account, and be thankful for what he has. Instead of feeling sorry for himself. Pick an indie label (e.g. the one Sack is on), release a couple of albums and get Alain back and tour and play for 2 hours with a proper support band. Burn the tired & worn video clip cheapo intro. Ditch the buzz killing songs and belt out a few new ones with a load of classics. And stop complaining about everything.

Tour other countries, don't cancel shows unless it's justified and if you're justified give explanations because the people who love you aren't going to see you perform for free. Make yourself seen more often, your fans need a little of your warmth. Oh, change your set of shoes, go back to your exquisite shirts and that if please bring Alain to me

 

[gashonthenail]

It doesn’t pack quite the same punch when they’ve said it to him first.

Quite. Maybe just a note saying - I don't mind if you forget me.
And then make success the best revenge.

 

[gashonthenail]

If he as the emails, quotes/whatever that can be corroborated, why not release them? Saddle up with Brand, or Tucker, or one of those folks and name and collusion those he clearly thinks are guilty of cowardice and collusion. If he believes, he is "gagged " what other consequence does have to fear from airing every verifiable thing?" Can't be double gagged after all It might that those label execs invoke that they're using the specter of diversity age, etc to spare his feelings (e.g. that they don't find the music good (in the sense of marketable and profitable.

Notre Dame is reopening, and Trump was the invited feted guest, If there were a time for the edgelord conspiratioal anthem. it's freshness has seemingly closed. The causes Morrissey seems to care most deeply in the culture war (as reflected in his songs and interviews, are are doing just fine without him. His missivies not needed for immigration numbers to decline, for governments to rachet up pressure on terrorist activists, to wax poetically about monoethnic and fixed culture and tradition. These are not radical positions if elections in the US/UK and elsewhere are reflective of what a lot of people think. He's rebelling for causes that have, for the moment, seem to have been won, in ways thar accord with hid concerns. He's irrelevant as harbinger.

I don't think Moz ever thought of them as 'radical' opinions. I think he just thinks they are opinions that most people have - but you're not allowed to say. Human opinions. Against an inhuman system. And people may indeed be voting for these opinions across many countries - but they are doing so in the face of a pretty much blanket message on legacy media telling them to vote for the opposite. And any politicians wanting to make any real change will do so in the face of that same legacy media and the entire deep state 'blob' that wants one thing only - to maintain the globalist, corporatist status quo. Trump will come up against a brick wall very quickly. A bulldozer will be needed - while his enemies will do everything they can to distract him in side-shows, as they did last time with impeachment etc. And let's not forget, of course, that the UK currently languishes under a Stalinist dystopia, complete with political prisoners and journalists arrested. The idea that the battle has been 'won', is very premature.

 

[Johnnie Ray]

Bob had the balls to call out Ticketmaster and tried to stop fans getting cornholed by dynamic pricing. When did Moz give a shite what people pay? Charging ridiculous amounts for his scrawl on a Bowie record. Robert Smith knows he's a brilliant artist who wants to make great music. He's not up on his soapbox.

Wow. You actually had the courage to speak truth to power! It is amazing to me how Morrissey loyalists think he has their backs while he price gouges the shit out of them! Reminds me of the lard azz and his beautiful tariffs which will very soon destroy his follower's meager budgets...the people who grinned themselves to death...