Morrissey Central "'UMM, MORRISSEY JUST ISN’T DIVERSE ENOUGH FOR OUR LABEL …" (December 6, 2024)

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[gordyboy9]

What happened to the seats? Where will people sit? Hey-O!

what a crap attempt at a joke but we know your not known for being funny.

 

[Thewlis]

 

[gashonthenail]

Since when has any artist needed legacy media anyway? The power of those instructions are crumbling. Morrissey can sit down with the telegraph or a podcaster any time he wants and have a chummy pleasant and fawning conversation, and name and shame whomever he dems guilty. If he does that plenty of folks will also find that mind numbing and self aggrandizing, but so what? That the same as it ever was. And at least it's honest and forthright

politicians keep getting elected in spite of what the supposedly all-powerful legacy media has to say, so neither the rightward artist, nor the politician has any excuse.

What Morrissey wants is the feting of the crumbling legacy media, in headlines, interviews, plum record contracts, chart positions, and still maintain his ambitious outsider mystique. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. So, we got these aggrieved martyr posts on central as opposed to you know, action in terms of new releases, substantive interviews or whatever.

If the shows themselves were enough to hook the kind of deal he wants, he'd have one by now, but as much as the antecedes h have enjoyed them, the shows have not moved the beadle

Yes and no. The legacy media still have a lot of power, for all their dwindling readership and viewership. The constant drip, drip, drip of articles referencing 'pariah Morrissey' has had a huge impact on his career. And look at the recent Gregg Wallace brouhaha in the UK. If that wasn't the legacy media saying to everyone else - this is how easily we can destroy you - I don't know what was.
But I agree - he needs to realise that artists can survive without the legacy media or the big labels. He has the name and the loyal following to be perfectly ok by himself.

 

[DaveJCarr]

Yes and no. The legacy media still have a lot of power, for all their dwindling readership and viewership. The constant drip, drip, drip of articles referencing 'pariah Morrissey' has had a huge impact on his career. And look at the recent Gregg Wallace brouhaha in the UK. If that wasn't the legacy media saying to everyone else - this is how easily we can destroy you - I don't know what was.
But I agree - he needs to realise that artists can survive without the legacy media or the big labels. He has the name and the loyal following to be perfectly ok by himself.

So, what are the metrics by which you'd accept that "Legacy Media is no longer powerful enough to be an impactful force? Brand is fine, Tucker Carlson is fine, (unfamiliar with that UK presenter._ If legacy media were as powerful as you claim it is, Moz wouldn't have a career at all. He got a deal after the Chinese subspecies comment, the spacey stuff, and had a deal in place for BOT (with all of its poltical preaching and posturing, before he blew it up by doggedly pursuing and publicly announcing the the vocals. So yes, all those headlines may have turned some people off, but surely you'd agree, but people are intelligent enough to make their own decisions, and evaluate the evidence themselves. Just because "legacy media" slagg of Morrissey or some Tv presenter doesn't mean that everyone will buy into the slaggging. You haven't and a lot of other folks haven't.


And if people were turned off by any of those comments, and Moz's career took a ding, because of it, well, welcome to the free speech he's always championing having consequences. Also, would you consider interview with The Telegraph a "Legacy Media " source. Where do you draw that line?

 

[gashonthenail]

So, what are the metrics by which you'd accept that "Legacy Media is no longer powerful enough to be an impactful force? Brand is fine, Tucker Carlson is fine, (unfamiliar with that UK presenter._ If legacy media were as powerful as you claim it is, Moz wouldn't have a career at all. He got a deal after the Chinese subspecies comment, the spacey stuff, and had a deal in place for BOT (with all of its poltical preaching and posturing, before he blew it up by doggedly pursuing and publicly announcing the the vocals. So yes, all those headlines may have turned some people off, but surely you'd agree, but people are intelligent enough to make their own decisions, and evaluate the evidence themselves. Just because "legacy media" slagg of Morrissey or some Tv presenter doesn't mean that everyone will buy into the slaggging. You haven't and a lot of other folks haven't.


And if people were turned off by any of those comments, and Moz's career took a ding, because of it, well, welcome to the free speech he's always championing having consequences. Also, would you consider interview with The Telegraph a "Legacy Media " source. Where do you draw that line?

I don't disagree with that. The legacy media virtually en masse told the US electorate to vote for Harris and against Trump - and the majority did the exact opposite. People are indeed able to make up their own mind. The likes of Brand and Tucker Carlson have survived by working outside the legacy media. Morrissey needs to do exactly the same. Morrissey Speaks to the Nation - every Friday at 8pm. With a few songs thrown in too. Now I for one would pay good money to hear that. Millions would. For all his love of 'punk' and the 'punk ideals' - he seems to have forgotten what those words mean. The internet, for all its faults, allows an artist to talk directly to the audience, with no intermediary. Morrissey doesn't seem to appreciate the huge potential in that.

 

[TheSmiths_1985]

I don't disagree with that. The legacy media virtually en masse told the US electorate to vote for Harris and against Trump - and the majority did the exact opposite. People are indeed able to make up their own mind. The likes of Brand and Tucker Carlson have survived by working outside the legacy media. Morrissey needs to do exactly the same. Morrissey Speaks to the Nation - every Friday at 8pm. With a few songs thrown in too. Now I for one would pay good money to hear that. Millions would. For all his love of 'punk' and the 'punk ideals' - he seems to have forgotten what those words mean. The internet, for all its faults, allows an artist to talk directly to the audience, with no intermediary. Morrissey doesn't seem to appreciate the huge potential in that.

Talk about what? What he had for dinner? Missing a delivery and having to send Damon down to the Post Office depot?

 

[DaveJCarr]

I don't disagree with that. The legacy media virtually en masse told the US electorate to vote for Harris and against Trump - and the majority did the exact opposite. People are indeed able to make up their own mind. The likes of Brand and Tucker Carlson have survived by working outside the legacy media. Morrissey needs to do exactly the same. Morrissey Speaks to the Nation - every Friday at 8pm. With a few songs thrown in too. Now I for one would pay good money to hear that. Millions would. For all his love of 'punk' and the 'punk ideals' - he seems to have forgotten what those words mean. The internet, for all its faults, allows an artist to talk directly to the audience, with no intermediary. Morrissey doesn't seem to appreciate the huge potential in that.

I agree that Morrissey could do plenty outside of the 'legacy media" if he wanted, but as Morrissey himself has said, and folks like Zoom have reiterated in this thread, he doesn't want to. Which is fine!

I just find it irksome and rather pathetic that he insists on disparging the various legacy media institutions, and their intelligence, alleged bias while at the same time constantly asserting of the industry that has supposedly gagged him, that , he is worthy of their money and business, and perestigr ! If the industry is full of supposedly woke diversity obsessed dullards, why bother working with them anyway. Who would want to go into business with a guy who will take his ball and go home at the slightest perceived or actual slight. Does Morrissey actual think he can insult, cajole and bully his way into a deal? And if he did sign a deal, would that prove the triumph of his art, or that the industry is not as monoethnic as he has shrieked that it is

There are plenty of artists making politically charged music in the same vein as his currently espoused grievances, aver all. He's not the only one blathering on against things grouped under diversity and woke labels.

 

[goinghome]

I think you're missing the point about WHO'S money here...It's a money game.

This is sad and mightily off-topic, but also hypocritical.

First, Morrissey has recently donated 50K for Salford Lad's Club. You couldn't be picking a worse time to make your long-redundant point. He's also gone to the trouble of finding, and clearing with whom it may concern, an ideal image for the managers to use on a t-shirt for more fundraising. We don't know how much else he's done for this and other causes.

About the hypocrisy in raising the question of whose money is being lost, have you ever considered that what you have done over very many years, in cahoots with your record company partners-in-crime, was a form of art theft, regardless of excuses i.e. leaking rare tracks without authorisation on a public website?

Have you ever considered you might actually be blacker than the kettle?