Morrissey Central "THE POPE WON’T LISTEN" (August 7, 2024)

THE POPE WON'T LISTEN - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - THE POPE WON'T LISTEN

MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY on MORRISSEY CENTRAL

www.morrisseycentral.com

 

[Light Housework]

Thank you very much, Redacted. I was actually one of a very few who received a settlement from the diocese and had retained one of the top attorneys in NYS to represent me ahead of it all. I was very lucky to receive some compensation. Of course, no amount of money can fix the damage to me, my family, community, etc. but at least something finally came of my complaint after 25 yrs. The other 100s of victims in the Diocese of Buffalo are still waiting to even be acknowledged while the diocese is bankrupt and closing all their churches.

I was a cradle Catholic, but after everything I went through over the past 5 yrs. and everything I found out, I now know that the corruption goes all the way to the top and down to the bottom. No pope is exempt. They all know/knew. I will never return to the RCC again. Had to attend my father's funeral in the church where I was abused. That was pure hell.

Thanks again for the insight, help, encouragement and for sharing your own struggle with the church.

You’re confirming what I suspected. People whose own integrity seems to be what matters most to them, like Morrissey, my counsellor Stephanie, a few mental health workers I’ve had the privilege to know, and many others too numerous to count who played a part in forming my memory, light the way in a generally dim world. I’ve not been exposed much to churches, and have never even met a priest, but I was in the child ‘care’ system where the director of group homes used me for his sexual pleasure when I was 12, and then ‘rewarded’ me by sending me to a foster home where the father got repeatedly visibly enraged at me for not swooning for him when he would show off, eventually becoming verbally abusive in the middle of the night when I was in the top bunk over his daughter who occupied the bottom bunk, and I knew he would hurt me before long, so I called my social worker in the morning and she only softly said that she was all booked up for the next two weeks and that if I was still concerned by then to call her back. I learned how to be a runaway that morning. Much worse things have happened to me but I’ll leave it at that here now. I haven’t been able to function like most people seem to do because I developed crippling dissociative tendencies to cope with trauma that happened much earlier than the incident with the group homes director, but I’ve been receiving counselling funded by charitable organizations and even the government lately, which is proving to be a game changer. I’m sixty and just getting started really, to be fully aware rather than in a dissociative state.

 

[Redacted]

Thank you very much, Redacted. I was actually one of a very few who received a settlement from the diocese and had retained one of the top attorneys in NYS to represent me ahead of it all. I was very lucky to receive some compensation. Of course, no amount of money can fix the damage to me, my family, community, etc. but at least something finally came of my complaint after 25 yrs. The other 100s of victims in the Diocese of Buffalo are still waiting to even be acknowledged while the diocese is bankrupt and closing all their churches.

I was a cradle Catholic, but after everything I went through over the past 5 yrs. and everything I found out, I now know that the corruption goes all the way to the top and down to the bottom. No pope is exempt. They all know/knew. I will never return to the RCC again. Had to attend my father's funeral in the church where I was abused. That was pure hell.

Thanks again for the insight, help, encouragement and for sharing your own struggle with the church.

You're welcome. I am happy for you that you got some acknowledgment of the wrong done to you even tho, like you said, it does not solve everything. One thing I learned about the church is that it may claim to be cash poor and it closes dioceses purely as a tactic to get the other parishioners angry at the victims who are 'forcing' them to do it, but the church is very land rich, it owns so much land it could sell to pay these settlements. I wish you the best, you are so brave, this is not easy stuff.

 

[Redacted]

I looked up the Buffalo case, they are not exactly bankrupt, they are filing a Chapter 11, which is reorganization of debts, not a discharge. The judge is giving the church a hard time, and rightfully so. The lawyers employed by the church are circumventing the process and the court, it's really a mess.
The pope could put a stop to all of this, he can order the church stop fighting this, stop employing upscale PR firms and just do the right thing.
Francis needs to go, the entire church should not be allowed to operate, it's nothing more than a criminal enterprise that basically trafficks children. I honestly would not mind if someone ended Francis for good and forever, maybe some people would wake up. The church would probably just canonize him.
Society should not be tolerating this.

 

[Bizarro]

The head of a vile, immoral, corrupt organisation.
The pope protects his own and to hell with anyone that has been abused by their clergy.
No chance the pope cares about animal welfare when that church has no respect for human welfare or it's followers..only their cash.
Animals do not matter...kids do not matter.

 

[REMORSE_CODE]

I looked up the Buffalo case, they are not exactly bankrupt, they are filing a Chapter 11, which is reorganization of debts, not a discharge. The judge is giving the church a hard time, and rightfully so. The lawyers employed by the church are circumventing the process and the court, it's really a mess.
The pope could put a stop to all of this, he can order the church stop fighting this, stop employing upscale PR firms and just do the right thing.
Francis needs to go, the entire church should not be allowed to operate, it's nothing more than a criminal enterprise that basically trafficks children. I honestly would not mind if someone ended Francis for good and forever, maybe some people would wake up. The church would probably just canonize him.
Society should not be tolerating this.

I believe you about the Ch. 11 filing. I've purposely avoided DOB news, but all I ever hear from up there is "bankruptcy". There was a report 3 days ago by the reporter who personally helped me and my case. This segment talks $ spent so far. I'll link at the bottom of this post. A snippet: "The Diocese of Buffalo is in the midst of a bankruptcy process that has dragged on for more than four years, spurred by hundreds of lawsuits alleging the abuse of young children by Buffalo priests. It is the second-longest bankruptcy ever among Catholic dioceses in the U.S. That slow pace and big spending by church leaders has some asking just how bankrupt the diocese really is."

The lawyers of DOB are making a fortune protecting the assets and criminal activity while victims are suffering and getting absolutely ignored. It's just so disgusting. And this is just one city.

As for Francis, he is despicable. But, at this point, I now know that Benedict and "saint" JP II also knew everything. They were there during my abuse and subsequent cover-up. Almost half of my abuser's class were all pedophiles, including Auxiliary Bishop Grosz who, after covering for all of his buddies all these years is finally under investigation himself.

If this needs to be moved to the off-topic page, I totally understand. Not trying to turn this into a "thing". I typically don't spend a lot of time talking about this stuff these days because I am trying to move on and find some healing. But, the topic of this post struck a nerve and your initial comment was so spot on. The pope doesn't care about anything except protecting pedophiles and other criminals within its own ranks, never mind bullfighting. I mean, the title is, "The Pope Won't Listen".

3 Days ago: https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/i...-fees/71-ad393e99-c117-4993-bbe0-96e44264b5b8

 

[Redacted]

I believe you about the Ch. 11 filing. I've purposely avoided DOB news, but all I ever hear from up there is "bankruptcy". There was a report 3 days ago by the reporter who personally helped me and my case. This segment talks $ spent so far. I'll link at the bottom of this post. A snippet: "The Diocese of Buffalo is in the midst of a bankruptcy process that has dragged on for more than four years, spurred by hundreds of lawsuits alleging the abuse of young children by Buffalo priests. It is the second-longest bankruptcy ever among Catholic dioceses in the U.S. That slow pace and big spending by church leaders has some asking just how bankrupt the diocese really is."

Before Bishop Malone was disgraced and sent packing (ie. probably living his best life on "EsCape Cod" right now), I went up to meet with other survivors as well as the whistleblower and news reporters who blew the case up. Bishop Malone had just sold his mansion for $1.5m and "downgraded" to another huge mansion. My husband and I visited the mansion and I posted this on social media: "No survivor of clergy sexual abuse in the diocese of Buffalo should pass up the opportunity to visit Bishop Malone's stunning new mansion. Bishop Malone used parishioner's donations to the tune of $200k to customize this place for himself, his roomie and their dog, Timon. People, stop donating!" (see attached pic)

The lawyers protecting the DOB are making a fortune protecting the assets and criminal activity while victims are suffering and getting absolutely ignored. It's just so disgusting. And this is just one city.

As for Francis, he is despicable. But, at this point, I now know that Benedict and "saint" JP II also knew everything. They were there during my abuse and subsequent cover-up. Almost half of my abuser's class were all pedophiles, including Auxiliary Bishop Grosz who, after covering for all of his buddies all these years is finally under investigation himself. Believe it or not, I actually opened and operated an extremely trad, Latin Mass friendly Catholic store for 7 yrs. just prior to this all blowing up. At this point, I cannot believe how brainwashed I and so many were by the RCC. One thing is for certain, even if the RCC was "the church that Jesus founded", he would do a heck of a lot more than flip tables if he was around now. I still have faith in God and feel that his vengeance will be more than any human can fathom. I just no longer believe that Catholics or any particular Christians own Jesus anymore. (Kind of hard to stomach that I ever believed that but cradle Catholicism is a strong tie to break away from, even when they've broken you.)

If this needs to be moved to the off-topic page, I totally understand. Not trying to turn this into a "thing". I typically don't spend a lot of time talking about this stuff these days because I am trying to move on and find some healing. But, the topic of this post struck a nerve and your initial comment was so spot on. The pope doesn't care about anything except protecting pedophiles and other criminals within its own ranks, never mind bullfighting. I mean, the title is, "The Pope Won't Listen".

3 Days ago: https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/i...-fees/71-ad393e99-c117-4993-bbe0-96e44264b5b8

I'm sorry if I hit a trigger with my initial comment. It's infuriating and soul crushing to learn of what this church has done and what it continues to do. And Francis could just stop it all, if he wanted to.

 

[REMORSE_CODE]

I'm sorry if I hit a trigger with my initial comment. It's infuriating and soul crushing to learn of what this church has done and what it continues to do. And Francis could just stop it all, if he wanted to.

No worries. It was the topic itself that got me to chime in. Honestly, I have been avoiding social media for more than a year. I stopped watching the news 20 yrs before M told me to. Then I became part of it, so that made it kind of unavoidable for a time, and it rears up whenever new stuff happens there. Only ended up on solo as I'd just found out about the tour and was able to snag 2 front pit tix, so I was pretty elated and the only place to continue that wave was to hop on over here and jump in the pool.

But it is gutting to know that Francis could stop this and just will not do it. No popes have done it. For whatever reason.

 

[Redacted]

No worries. It was the topic itself that got me to chime in. Honestly, I have been avoiding social media for more than a year. I stopped watching the news 20 yrs before M told me to. Then I became part of it, so that made it kind of unavoidable for a time, and it rears up whenever new stuff happens there. Only ended up on solo as I'd just found out about the tour and was able to snag 2 front pit tix, so I was pretty elated and the only place to continue that wave was to hop on over here and jump in the pool.

But it is gutting to know that Francis could stop this and just will not do it. No popes have done it. For whatever reason.

This tour should give everyone a lot to talk about, the 4 Vegas dates generated a lot of discussion

 

[REMORSE_CODE]

This tour should give everyone a lot to talk about, the 4 Vegas dates generated a lot of discussion

Indeed! Assuming it happens and I can make it there, I hope to contribute to the discussion around this tour.

 

[Redacted]

Indeed! Assuming it happens and I can make it there, I hope to contribute to the discussion around this tour.

I hope you make it, but even if you can't, the threads about the shows are very active before, during and after the shows. It's kind of like a bunch of little parties at Solo.

 

[Lujan369]

The Church is a filthy business, they only care about money. They used Jesus to put things in people's heads that he never said, such as that we should worship him in temples, use his image, that evil acts lead you to hell, etc., etc. All to manipulate the sheep .. I was one but I woke up and I knew who Jesus of Nazareth was and what was the true teaching that he left to all humanity. That is why I consider Jesus the most important man who lived. I don't use crosses and I never have images of him on the cross bloodied. That's not what he wanted. The meaning of what happened on the cross has nothing to do with what the Catholic Church tells you. The Church is a place that opposes the teachings of Jesus.Si the pope covers up things is equally guilty of them. Like all popes and if anyone wants to dare to question, they end up going to the other plane

 

[Lujan369]

You’re confirming what I suspected. People whose own integrity seems to be what matters most to them, like Morrissey, my counsellor Stephanie, a few mental health workers I’ve had the privilege to know, and many others too numerous to count who played a part in forming my memory, light the way in a generally dim world. I’ve not been exposed much to churches, and have never even met a priest, but I was in the child ‘care’ system where the director of group homes used me for his sexual pleasure when I was 12, and then ‘rewarded’ me by sending me to a foster home where the father got repeatedly visibly enraged at me for not swooning for him when he would show off, eventually becoming verbally abusive in the middle of the night when I was in the top bunk over his daughter who occupied the bottom bunk, and I knew he would hurt me before long, so I called my social worker in the morning and she only softly said that she was all booked up for the next two weeks and that if I was still concerned by then to call her back. I learned how to be a runaway that morning. Much worse things have happened to me but I’ll leave it at that here now. I haven’t been able to function like most people seem to do because I developed crippling dissociative tendencies to cope with trauma that happened much earlier than the incident with the group homes director, but I’ve been receiving counselling funded by charitable organizations and even the government lately, which is proving to be a game changer. I’m sixty and just getting started really, to be fully aware rather than in a dissociative state.

I love you. Light cleaning!! I hug you from Buenos Aires

 

[Breton La Villain]

I wonder if Morrissey will speak out about Turkeys controversial barbaric law on Stray Dogs.

 

[Breton La Villain]

More info on this story.https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/08/08/turkeys-president-refuses-to-let-sleeping-dogs-lie

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/travel/uk-tourists-rush-boycott-turkey-33440497

 

[Light Housework]

More info on this story.https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/08/08/turkeys-president-refuses-to-let-sleeping-dogs-lie

When a site won’t let me peek without accepting cookies I close the tab it’s on. If Solo did that I’d make an exception. I’ll look for an alternative article about this.

 

[goinghome]

Some still catching up with this story

https://umusic.digital/morrissey-on-bullfighting-pamplona-is-an-orgy-of-violence/8807/