Questlove Supreme / YouTube: Johnny Marr interview; Smiths mentions throughout

Questlove talks to Marr for 1.5 hours - reminiscing & Smiths mentions throughout.
FWD.

 

[Anonymous]

Actually. Out of all the bands Johnny played in post Smiths, The Krankies were by far the best.

Fandabeedohzee, in fact!

 

[DaveJCarr]

While I think that Johnny is sincere about his political opinions, I also think it benefits him - career-wise - if Morrissey is cast by many as 'iredeemable' whereas he is portrayed by many as the near-faultless alternative. For all that Morrissey may indeed have hoisted himself upon his own petard, Johnny's left him lonely on that limb for the sake of JM's own interests. And not for the first time either - there were sound reasons beyond show-off, sarcastic prose why M wrote in Autobiography so scathingly about JM's High Court u-turn.

Joe Moss apparently once advised Johnny to make sure that he would be the first to leave the band, advice that basically translates to 'Look after number one'; Johnny always has.

As far as political preferences are concerned, there's never been a better time for someone of Morrissey's currently espoused values in statements and artistic work to find a number of friendly receptive places on the podcast/YouTube shpere. That might turn more people off, but certainly he's already done a lot of that anyway, so what does he have to lose? It's at least honest- and might eminent his current popularity in those quarters.


I think some of that's true, but I also think that Moz has that phenomenally self-interested from the start – for every Marr moment, there's an equal "we can continue The Smiths, with Ivory Perry and company" from the other side of the ledger.

Yep.

Beneath all that drama, and even beneath the various compliments that have often flowed between them publicly, is perhaps something unspoken: each of them feels that they alone were mostly responsible for the Smiths' success and brilliance; and yet decorum and modesty dictates that each feels obliged to share the praise with the other. They're grateful to one another, certainly, and aware what each of them owes to the other; but this civility is in some ways a facade.

I agree with everything here, but especially the last part, which is why as nice as it would be and as miraculous in some ways, I'm not invested in the much coveted parasocial glories that would come from a reunion
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I have no trouble with the way either has treated the other since the breakup. I think the credit has been duly given, the sarcasm and dismissive tone from both of them on a few different fronts is well-earned. And I do think you are correct that each values his own contributions most – or at least the opportunity to remind everyone how important their specific contributions were to what made The Smiths what they were and remain

 

[Les Tameside]

“popular, easygoing”

That’s why we’re here

 

[Les Tameside]

Actually. Out of all the bands Johnny played in post Smiths, The Krankies were by far the best.

If only.

 

[Amy]

Yep.

Beneath all that drama, and even beneath the various compliments that have often flowed between them publicly, is perhaps something unspoken: each of them feels that they alone were mostly responsible for the Smiths' success and brilliance; and yet decorum and modesty dictates that each feels obliged to share the praise with the other. They're grateful to one another, certainly, and aware what each of them owes to the other; but this civility is in some ways a facade.

I don't agree there. I think beneath the surface, each of them blames the other for the split, and that's what they can't get past. It is only due to the breakdown of relationship, and the letter and all that came with it, that they're trying to diminish each other.

 

[Amy]

Huffpost has just contacted Johnny Marr for additional comment on the prospect of a reconciliation between him and Morrissey, that would be sufficient to reform, as such, The Smiths
- https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...appen-johnny-marr_uk_66d593d9e4b078fcd931410f

I hope he doesn't reply and just takes this to private channels now, with Morrissey directly. This public ping-pong is undignified.

 

[Anonymous]

This public ping-pong is undignified.

100% agree. If Johnny's going to decline, let him do it privately, or at least make a simple 'thanks but I'm not interested' public statement. The pair of them slinging barbs at each other in public does neither any benefit.

 

[Lujan369]

All because of politics. They are. Politics changes all the time and it's very dirty, I don't understand why some artists take so many political positions when in reality they are not politicians, they are musicians, and politics and politicians don't give a shit about Morrissey's opinion, I Marr.No understand people who fight over political issues in my opinion. No one is going to change the world. It seems to me that an artist should not stick to politics defending the people who tomorrow are on the opposite sidewalk. It's just not worth it
If you love each other and love what you built together, you must talk and play together. The only thing that can deal with silly political differences and so many other is love

 

[gordyboy9]

Actually. Out of all the bands Johnny played in post Smiths, The Krankies were by far the best.

believe it or not they used to go to wife-swapping parties.

 

[gordyboy9]

did marr do his one joke about M being out the one night of the year he has a new song to play him.

 

[SteveWS]

Thanks for you (very interesting and informed) perspectives, Dave and Amy. If one is seriously interested in the Smiths and the various personalities involved then it's all too easy to lapse into thinking that we might well know the truth about it all...but these are merely guesses, on my part, and hunches aren't facts.

 

[Musician]

As always, it's entertaining to see the mental gymnastics by the usual fans who would forgive Morrissey eating babies live. If this news had been reported the other way round - Johnny Marr wanting a reunion and Morrissey declining - they would be all over saying "ohh Morrissey doesn't need to relive the past, The Smiths is dead, Marr only needs the money" etc etc. Now that Morrissey caves in after 30+ years of rejecting the idea of reuniting the Smiths, it's OK. All right

 

[new musings]

Is there a Marr-Solo website someone can recommend?

 

[Dorothy]

Is there a Marr-Solo website someone can recommend?

I can send you the link. But on that one Marr is a villan, although they love Moz.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

believe it or not they used to go to wife-swapping parties.

The Smiths? I believe it.

 

[gordyboy9]

Is there a Marr-Solo website someone can recommend?

if there is a site then it must be very quiet because all his fans are on here.

 

[gordyboy9]

The Smiths? I believe it.

that would be quite apt if it was will smith and his wife.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

that would be quite apt if it was will smith and his wife.

you wanna get Smith slapped?

 

[gordyboy9]

you wanna get Smith slapped?

would rather get my arse slapped,only if you were female that goes without saying.
theres a scottish saying-youve got a face like a well skelped arse,means your not very good looking.

 

[Anonymous]

Is there a Marr-Solo website someone can recommend?

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