Morrissey Central "MANAGEMENT" (September 19, 2024)

Morrissey has severed all connections with Red Light Management/Pete Galli Management.

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[Southpaw80]

I saw Alain with Spencer, Gaz, Gustavo and Craig in Belfast earlier this year and it was amazing. A really crappy 'sticky floor' dive but they delivered the goods. 'Ask' and 'Certain People I Know' had me in tears, it was such a joy. What a band that would be to see out M's twilight years, throw in a Boz and it would be perfect - who would even want a 'Smiths' reunion?!

 

[Young And Alive]

I saw Alain with Spencer, Gaz, Gustavo and Craig in Belfast earlier this year and it was amazing. A really crappy 'sticky floor' dive but they delivered the goods. 'Ask' and 'Certain People I Know' had me in tears, it was such a joy. What a band that would be to see out M's twilight years, throw in a Boz and it would be perfect - who would even want a 'Smiths' reunion?!

Pardon my ignorance but did Alain know Craig at all prior to inviting him into his band? Or was it purely because they've both worked with Morrissey that Alain thought it would be a nice idea to get in touch with him?

 

[Thewlis]

I saw Alain with Spencer, Gaz, Gustavo and Craig in Belfast earlier this year and it was amazing. A really crappy 'sticky floor' dive but they delivered the goods. 'Ask' and 'Certain People I Know' had me in tears, it was such a joy. What a band that would be to see out M's twilight years, throw in a Boz and it would be perfect - who would even want a 'Smiths' reunion?!

Agreed, a 1991-2004 reunion tour would be just as amazing, or maybe even more so (with Andy gone), as a Smiths reunion.

 

[Anonymous]

I am of the same opinion.

I admire Marr and I love his music. But for me, the true soul of The Smiths is Morrissey and his lyrics.

I quite liked some of Electronic's songs, but I saw Morrissey's early solo career as the true continuation of The Smiths.

And his current solo career is not a continuation of the smiths.

 

[Anonymous]

What surprises me about myself is that although I play guitar and adore Johnny's riffs/melodies, I have never went to see him, even though he's in my home town at least once or twice a year. It's very much about Morrissey for me, he is The Smiths.

That's fine, but I recommend you at least try giving a Johnny Marr gig a go if he's in town. I was quite surprised the first time I saw Johnny that it was quite emotionally moving to hear those guitar lines played the right way by the guy who wrote them, and that I could feel the spirit of The Smiths in the room. For the first time since 'Rank' I was hearing those songs correctly, and could feel that link to the past, in the same but different way when Morrissey sings them. It just felt 'right'.

 

[Young And Alive]

And his current solo career is not a continuation of the smiths.

I've said before that his last decent album was Years of Refusal.

2010 onwards has been a huge disappointment. All of the albums he's put out since then have been sub-Kill Uncle, which I now appreciate a lot more in comparison.

If he had stopped writing new material after the age of 50, and had instead done world tours over the last decade and a half of greatest hits set lists, his stock would be so much higher than it is right now. It's not like he hasn't got enough in his catalogue to choose from.

A Smiths reunion is off the table, but if he had retained the goodwill he had from 2004 and patched things up with Johnny, I can imagine him at Glastonbury with the crowd hanging on his every word, and then Johnny joining him for a There Is a Light encore. A public reconciliation, without spoiling the band's legacy.

 

[sotob]

Love Mozzer and hate to say this, but with this announcement, did you run out buttons on your keyboard to give additional details.. Plenty of that is shared when a new key chain or when an old/new orange release is coming down the road ....

Life is dance as they say, so please meet me half way. If not, there are other who will take my time, money and space...and time is nOT on your side...

 

[Nony]

My only mistake is I'm hoping. ... is there another example of a legendary artist just devolving slowly like this? Michael Jackson comes to mind. I'm almost convinced that Moz has some personality disorder like narcissism or Asperger's. He seems to be doing this to himself yet blaming others. So sad to watch.

"Almost convinced" that Moz is a narcissist?

 

[Anonomous]

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So...last Jan. Moz says o.k. to a Smiths reunion and marr says no. Then marr goes off on keeping The Smiths name for himself ? So this marr thing is a nasty boy... Shoot em ! Ya....why not ? Ya can make a movie, a book, songs, disco mix, London version, N.Y.C. version, Keeeeeves version, WW 3 version & all ya have to do is Shoot em ! Why not ? The c$nty record company hacks could use a good whacking too......That could be the sequel to Shoot em. Shoot em 2. "This could go on forever, in which case I do."
Your fired eye talian management team oughta know the right contacts to ensure success ! Tip Big !
"In the Future When All's Well"GOOD LUCK Morrissey
S.D.Morrissey Gang

 

[Anonymous]

Moz: “I lied so now you’re fired!”

 

[Grim Reaper]

The Smiths rights issue predates the tour proposal by several years. Why does Marr have to be involved in Moz's management's attempt to relaunch Morrissey's career?

They are both free to do as they please but I don't see anything musical happening unless the personal issues get addressed first, people on here need to think of them as being actual people and not just musical celebrities.

 

[Light Housework]

What was in the box Sharon??

potato chips. One of Morrissey’s cherished toys.
“If you want, something to play with, go and find yourself a toy."

 

[ACTON]

Far Out magazine:

 

[Famous when dead]

The Spectator / Alexander Larman: "Morrissey’s martyrdom knows no bounds" (September 21, 2024)

Morrissey's martyrdom knows no bounds

Morrissey seems to take delight in presenting himself as a wronged and put-upon figure, cast down by the iniquities of society.

www.spectator.co.uk

Minus nag screen:

https://archive.is/BbqMe

 

[SteveWS]

It's a shock, nowadays, to read a magazine or newspaper feature on Morrissey which isn't entirely scathing.

 

[gashonthenail]

The Spectator / Alexander Larman: "Morrissey’s martyrdom knows no bounds" (September 21, 2024)

Morrissey's martyrdom knows no bounds

Morrissey seems to take delight in presenting himself as a wronged and put-upon figure, cast down by the iniquities of society.

www.spectator.co.uk

Minus nag screen:

https://archive.is/BbqMe

You do have to laugh when Morrissey is called 'unpopular' for the 'controversial' things he has said - all those so called 'controversial' things are the views of the majority of the population. Most people in the UK would applaud the sentiment of Bonfire of Teenagers. The problem for Morrissey is 2 fold: he works in the 'music industry' - which, like all 'the arts', from the theatre, to publishing, to cinema, to television, is woke from top to bottom. And the arts rely on journalism to communicate with the general public - journalism, and music journalism in particular, is also woke from top to bottom. So Morrissey can never win. He will always be f***ed over twice.

 

[gashonthenail]

I just don't buy the idea that Moz said Yes to touring as The Smiths because he knew that Johnny would say No, and then he could release a statement to make Johnny look bad. If Moz said Yes it was because he really wanted to do it. He loves the thrill of singing live on stage. And the audiences for a reformed The Smiths would be huge. But I think his primary reason must have been to hope to sign a deal with a major label to release Bonfire, in the wake of the inevitable popularity and media buzz that would surround the tour. Look at the buzz around Oasis. He and Johnny could have signed a deal to release a double live album of the tour, and maybe some re-issues of albums with unreleased tracks, and then everything would be ready for Moz to sign a deal with a major label to release Bonfire. Johnny is no idiot. He was aware of all that and that is why he said No. The pic of Nigel Farage said it all. I'm not sharing a stage with Morrissey so he can then go on to release an album with a bloody Nigel Farage inspired title track.

 

[SteveWS]

Further to my recent & admittedly arguable comment about Morrissey being in thrall to the idea of stardom (as in the kind of gaudy and Gothic Hollywood/Sunset Boulevard stardom that often ends in decline and even tragedy), the type of 'tragic' arc of a stellar career must have some appeal for him...and perhaps, he assumes, it also appeals to us fans. In this context, would we as fans actually prefer him to be as enormously and unfailingly successful and as mindlessly adored as are the tacky pin-ups of popular culture? Cutesy stickers of a sterile and 'safe' Morrissey 'free with every special packet of Monster Munch'? I don't believe we would. For some or even many of us, I'm guessing that - even if not consciously - such prospects would have very little allure. Sometimes, success and fame are beneath a person; or at least, they feel that success and fame are undignified.

I'm not claiming that the seeming self-sabotage is a conscious choice of his; just that the drama of it all might be attractive to him. Oscar Wilde's downfall and social disgrace occurred at the absolute height of his popular success, and that very Romantic decline and fall spurred him on to writing De Profundis, in which Wilde cast Christ as the supreme artist or artistic type. To Wilde, Jesus's downfall and death represented a magnificent story - one entirely and deliberately created (manufactured, in fact - even Judas played a vital, thankless role in this real-life drama) by Christ, the dramatic artist. In the light of such fame, such glory, and then a Lucifer-style descent, would it be any wonder if Wilde admirer Morrissey - whose patrician personality might well view massive popular success as being somehow vulgar - also saw the appeal, which Oscar surely did, of a tragic career-arc?

This, Wilde writing of Jesus, seems curiously apt regarding Morrissey/the Smiths:

'I see no difficulty at all in believing that such was the charm of his personality that his mere presence could bring peace to souls in anguish, and that those who touched his garments or his hands forgot their pain; or that as he passed by on the highway of life people who had seen nothing of life’s mystery, saw it clearly, and others who had been deaf to every voice but that of pleasure heard for the first time the voice of love and found it as ‘musical as Apollo’s lute’; or that evil passions fled at his approach, and men whose dull unimaginative lives had been but a mode of death rose as it were from the grave when he called them; or that when he taught on the hillside the multitude forgot their hunger and thirst and the cares of this world...'

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As a clue to Morrissey's possible thinking upon tragedy: not a few of the Smiths' singles' cover stars either experienced downfalls, in one way or another, or died younger than they might have or were the subjects of scandal, controversy or at least rumour; these fates and fortunes made their lives & careers & personalities resonate to Morrissey, and set their 'legends' in stone.

 

[gashonthenail]

Further to my recent & admittedly arguable comment about Morrissey being in thrall to the idea of stardom (as in the kind of gaudy and Gothic Hollywood/Sunset Boulevard stardom that often ends in decline and even tragedy), the type of 'tragic' arc of a stellar career must have some appeal for him...and perhaps, he assumes, it also appeals to us fans. In this context, would we as fans actually prefer him to be as enormously and unfailingly successful and as mindlessly adored as are the tacky pin-ups of popular culture? Cutesy stickers of a sterile and 'safe' Morrissey 'free with every special packet of Monster Munch'? I don't believe we would. For some or even many of us, I'm guessing that - even if not consciously - such prospects would have very little allure.

I'm not claiming that the seeming self-sabotage is a conscious choice of his; just that the drama of it all might be attractive to him. Oscar Wilde's downfall and social disgrace occurred at the absolute height of his popular success, and that very Romantic decline and fall spurred him on to writing De Profundis, in which Wilde cast Christ as the supreme artist or artistic type. To Wilde, Jesus's downfall and death represented a magnificent story - one entirely and deliberately created (manufactured, in fact - even Judas played a vital, thankless role in this real-life drama) by Christ, the dramatic artist. In the light of such fame, such glory, and then a Lucifer-style descent, would it be any wonder if Wilde admirer Morrissey - whose patrician personality might well view massive popular success as being somehow vulgar - also saw the appeal, that Oscar surely did, of a tragic career-arc?

I've made a similar point about Moz and Wilde before - and the romanticism of career self destruction. But I think Moz saying Yes to touring as The Smiths was very much an attempt to escape from the hole he is. And maybe now the only way out for him? Given that self releasing his work is something he refuses to do.

 

[🐈🐈🐈]

Pardon my ignorance but did Alain know Craig at all prior to inviting him into his band? Or was it purely because they've both worked with Morrissey that Alain thought it would be a nice idea to get in touch with him?

Smiths reunion should never happen, amply for the Netflix kids, but a M ‘91 and on puro S’paw G. would be just the ticket.

Gerriton’lads