Inside information on Moz, Marr & management
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Maudlin Street
Always different, always the same
For a few years when I was in high school, I was Morrissey obsessed and basically thought he could do no wrong. Then at a certain point I saw through that and got tired of all his drama (around 2017) and stopped listening for years; I was just over it. Lately I’ve been back because he’s just that good and he’ll always be my #1 singer/lyricist. But I view things realistically, now.
Surface
Chilling in Cheshire.
He has changed though Thewlis, in the early days he never spouted shit like he did in 2017/18.
I mean sure, but what's understandable and somewhat excusable at 19 or 20 can look a little different at 65. To be consistently devious, truculent and unreliable is not a virtue for anyone, least of all someone who insists that he ought to be feted by major labels and lauded for the uncommon honesty and clarity in his songwriting. His tendency to gleefully sabotage the people who want to release hid music BOT, who have released his music (World Peace) have only worsened as his lyrics and vocal melodies have become more predictable, plodding, blunt, and of a warbling chortle.
Thewlis
Very Senior Member
Only in those 2 years? I think he said many quite ‘horrific’ things (for the faint of heart at least) prior to that.
Surface
Chilling in Cheshire.
Different things piss different people off, for me it was the comments in 17/18
Thewlis
Very Senior Member
Yet you’re still here, and still go to his shows, so they didn’t piss you off sufficiently
Surface
Chilling in Cheshire.
Yet you’re still here, and still go to his shows, so they didn’t piss you off sufficiently
Yes I do as I like the music but not the person anymore.
G
Gray Fruit
Guest
Nice one, this includes the guest appearance by Neil Tennant for the semi-Electronic reunion!
Surface
Chilling in Cheshire.
Yes really looking forward hearing this.
gashonthenail
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Well, I for one am comfortable stating for the record that I love Morrissey. In the same way that I would state that about a very small number of other writers and poets. I have never met the guy - other than seeing him on a stage. But I can say without a shadow of a doubt that his being on this planet has changed my life. And for that I will always be grateful. Love may be nothing more than a delusion to keep us amused. But fine. At least let our delusions be splendid ones.
Juan Dulces
I just see trees.
I love it! Yep, Morrissey is one of the greats - whether it be literary, musically, or just simply for his collective 'art'. Irreplaceable.
Morrissey will be spoken about for years after he is gone. He is significant and strikingly so.
Southpaw80
Active Member
It is, I've been coming here for around 25 years; I've seen and read it all - there used to be a chatroom; that was a hoot I tell ya! The petty squabbles are annoying, but on the whole it's a great place for everything Moz (and he knows it).
smiler
Junior Member
The chatroom was great
Oh wow. I'd totally forgotten about the chatroom! One crazy place!
April Snow
Well-Known Member
I am in the honeymoon phase - only being a newbie from last year to M & Smiths......................there is no way I am going to tell long term fans how to think or feel about their experiences - they have a right to feel as they wish - albeit negative or positive - I can understand the disappointment of feeling let down by cancelled shows, especially if more than once & at a financial loss to them on top of the disappointment.
But I also realise M is only human and like us all, flawed at times - only I get to hide my flaws as I am not in the public eye. He seems to have worn his heart on his sleeve a fair bit and been honest about how he sees the world and that is his right too, but it comes at a cost, when others do not agree with you. It is a risk to voice an opinion of any kind in this world we are living in today when freedom of speech is not celebrated but squashed. But that is what I love about Morrissey - he stays true to himself even at that cost, even if unpopular, even if I do not always agree.
I am so grateful for the music - that will stand when all else is said and done, and it is a snapshot of the times they were written in - for me, he is up there with Dylan & Cohen - and I am soooooo happy that I played TQID album in 2024 and it started me on the journey.
But I also realise M is only human and like us all, flawed at times - only I get to hide my flaws as I am not in the public eye. He seems to have worn his heart on his sleeve a fair bit and been honest about how he sees the world and that is his right too, but it comes at a cost, when others do not agree with you. It is a risk to voice an opinion of any kind in this world we are living in today when freedom of speech is not celebrated but squashed. But that is what I love about Morrissey - he stays true to himself even at that cost, even if unpopular, even if I do not always agree.
I am so grateful for the music - that will stand when all else is said and done, and it is a snapshot of the times they were written in - for me, he is up there with Dylan & Cohen - and I am soooooo happy that I played TQID album in 2024 and it started me on the journey.
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April Snow
Well-Known Member
Yes I agree, and as his lyric goes "you gonna miss me when I'm gone".......................
I celebrate he is still with us and hope he is for many years to come.
