Forbes: "Gene Simmons On Life After KISS, Sale And Avatars, Linkin Park, Oasis, Morrissey, Taylor Swift And Chappell Roan" (September 13, 2024)

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Below, Simmons discusses life after playing with KISS. He shares his views on Linkin Park’s relaunch and new vocalist, Emily Armstrong, who’s caused a stir due to her connections with Scientology. He discusses the long-awaited reconnection of the Oasis brothers, the drama surrounding Ticketmaster’s Dynamic Pricing for the band’s 2025 tour and his run-in with Liam Gallagher.

He also addresses Morrissey’s recent dismay with record label executives, the controversy surrounding his new album, Bonfire of Teenagers, and Morrissey’s claims that an offer for The Smiths reunion tour was neglected by guitarist Johnny Marr.



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More British rock news: An interview was recently published in The Telegraph with singer Morrissey, famously of The Smiths. To simplify, Morrissey is saying that he's been silenced by record labels who refuse to release his new album, Bonfire of Teenagers. This comes after years of drama: he was dropped by BMG, then signed to Capitol Records, which he claims then shelved the record, which he then purchased back from them, but has had no success shopping.

The controversy surrounding the album is related to the record’s title track, a song about the 2017 terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester which killed 22 people. Morrissey is critical about what he sees as a culturally “woke” reaction to the killings—even mentioning what he felt was a misuse of Oasis’ hit “Don’t Look Back in Anger” as a song of solidarity and hope in the city.

I'm curious what your thought is on the idea of labels withholding a major artist's music over political stances. Morrissey has likened it to them holding his art hostage, but also says he refuses to self-release the album.


Morrissey and I have exchanged pleasantries. He’s a great artist, terrific. It's funny to look at a gift horse in the mouth. We're all alive, and every artist and every human being has a right to express their opinion. “Here's my opinion on that. I think you should be angry”—or not. And that's his opinion.

I happen to agree with it. By the way. “Wokeism” intentionally means well, but there's a lot of garbage and bulls*** involved with it and basically browbeating anybody who doesn't agree with you, you know, like a baker who doesn't want to make a cake because religiously he doesn't agree with your lifestyle. At what point do your individual rights stop and you have to bow down to somebody else's thing? Democracy is a messy thing.

I say more power to [Morrissey] for speaking up. And by the way, if you want to take advantage of capitalism, which is to have a record company give you money, you can't blame him.

Morrissey said: “Every major label in London has refused my album while also admitting that it is a masterpiece.” He claimed that label executives are worried that the media would make their lives hell if they release his music and support his message.

Well, look, record companies are a business. They're not here for a social tool. And when you go through a jungle, you've got to figure out where you want to go. Life isn't easy and then you die. That's all.

He'll be okay [laughs]. His rent is covered and he's got food in his belly. He'll figure it out.

It’s hard to understand why he wouldn't just release the album himself. I'm sure he has the resources to do so…

Because it's easier to do it when somebody else takes the risk and gives the money.

That's a good point.

That’s the only point.

Morrissey also just came out recently and said that AEG made a very lucrative offer for him and guitarist Johnny Marr to reunite The Smiths in 2025. Morrissey claims that he said yes, but Marr didn't even acknowledge the offer. I’m sure he’s really frustrated right now.

In 2007, Rolling Stone reported that Morrissey himself had turned down a $75 million dollar offer. It wouldn’t be shocking to imagine that the newest offer would be upwards of $100 million. Of course, that is total speculation.


Get rid of the guitar player and get somebody off. Nobody cares. They just want to hear the songs. I keep saying this over and over again. If you go down the street, and with all due respect to Johnny Marr, you go down the street and ask the general person, “Who's Johnny Marr?” they won't know who you're talking about.

[Hypothetically], saying no to $100 million dollars would be lunacy. What other job would pay you that!? Unless you’re willing to break your back and play football or something…


Not someone I ever thought would go in the Wiki.
Regards,
FWD.


Update:
Later became a Morrissey Central post:
Morrissey Central: "GENE Simmons" - September 13, 2024
 
Moz covering Crazy, Crazy Nights would be fantastic! :ROFLMAO:
Never paid much attention to Gene Simmons as a 'personality' but he appears to have a whole section of his Wiki dedicated to 'controversial' statements, so I knew he'd have Moz' back.
 
He’s right to say that people just want to hear the Smiths songs and it doesn’t require a Smiths reunion. You can hear Smiths songs at Morrissey gigs, at Johnny Marr, at festivals when Johnny Marr joins The Killers on stage and Smiths songs performed by cover bands, most famously by Rick Astley + Blossoms. Enough to choose from.
I believe Gene is really answering a question that, as someone else here has noted, he doesn’t know the intricacies involved.

You’re right… he is right. People do just want to hear the songs. BUT, if Moz went touring playing ONLY The Smiths songs, that hupothetical $100M is no longer on the table. There is a reason Oasis are commanding hundreds of millions in guarantees. The whole point is it’s the “reunion” ( be it Noel/Liam or Johnny/Moz) and surely his answer would be different if he’d put more thought into it.
 
I'll always have a soft spot for Gene for the British music doc he made on Ch 4 a long time ago and tutored this kid, who sadly killed himself.


i was talking to my daughter about lil chris just last week,love that song.
 
Gene's right.
God gave rock n roll to us.
Ain't no record company or
Johnny Marr got a right to
take it away.

How is this supposed to work exactly? Are record companies obligated to sign anyone playing "rock n roll"? Does Johnny Marr have no right to make a decision on the Smiths catalog (a catalog already available on all major streaming platforms)?
 
I saw this headline and thought 'oh god, another aging, bloated rockstar giving his two cents on the Moz drama'. But after reading it... the man makes great points! Interesting....
 
If you go down the street, and with all due respect to Johnny Marr, you go down the street and ask the general person, “Who's Johnny Marr?” they won't know who you're talking about.

True, this.
To be fair, not so much in the UK or Ireland. Both Moz and Marr, and the others are known this side of the pond, but no question anywhere that Morrissey is the essential face of The Smiths.

A sizzler of an interview. Gene Simmons comes across as crass on some points but also honest, and even smart when talking about how money actually solves some of human being's worst problems. Funny how revolutionary it can sound to say what cures poverty is money!

This bit tickled me:
No matter what the internet says, no matter what these “thousands” of people who bark the loudest—the smallest dog barks the loudest. The great silent majority—I don't mean politically—the people who make things happen, buy tickets. So, if they—and they will—sell lots of tickets, Linkin Park, then the public has spoken. End of story. And they will do great.
 
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I'm sorry, but Kiss is one of the worst bands of all time. If he wasn't defending moz, a lot of you would rant about how awful their music is
 
Kiss were bloody awful. Simmons is the absolute paradigm of what is wrong with the music industry. A showman, perhaps, but as an Israeli-American he cares first and foremost about the dollars and everything is constructed around marketing. I don't think he's qualified to comment on a Smiths reunion just because he once 'exchanged pleasantries' with Morrissey.
I think he's a bit of a dick.
 

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