Forbes: "Gene Simmons On Life After KISS, Sale And Avatars, Linkin Park, Oasis, Morrissey, Taylor Swift And Chappell Roan" (September 13, 2024)

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Below, Simmons discusses life after playing with KISS. He shares his views on Linkin Park’s relaunch and new vocalist, Emily Armstrong, who’s caused a stir due to her connections with Scientology. He discusses the long-awaited reconnection of the Oasis brothers, the drama surrounding Ticketmaster’s Dynamic Pricing for the band’s 2025 tour and his run-in with Liam Gallagher.

He also addresses Morrissey’s recent dismay with record label executives, the controversy surrounding his new album, Bonfire of Teenagers, and Morrissey’s claims that an offer for The Smiths reunion tour was neglected by guitarist Johnny Marr.



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More British rock news: An interview was recently published in The Telegraph with singer Morrissey, famously of The Smiths. To simplify, Morrissey is saying that he's been silenced by record labels who refuse to release his new album, Bonfire of Teenagers. This comes after years of drama: he was dropped by BMG, then signed to Capitol Records, which he claims then shelved the record, which he then purchased back from them, but has had no success shopping.

The controversy surrounding the album is related to the record’s title track, a song about the 2017 terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester which killed 22 people. Morrissey is critical about what he sees as a culturally “woke” reaction to the killings—even mentioning what he felt was a misuse of Oasis’ hit “Don’t Look Back in Anger” as a song of solidarity and hope in the city.

I'm curious what your thought is on the idea of labels withholding a major artist's music over political stances. Morrissey has likened it to them holding his art hostage, but also says he refuses to self-release the album.


Morrissey and I have exchanged pleasantries. He’s a great artist, terrific. It's funny to look at a gift horse in the mouth. We're all alive, and every artist and every human being has a right to express their opinion. “Here's my opinion on that. I think you should be angry”—or not. And that's his opinion.

I happen to agree with it. By the way. “Wokeism” intentionally means well, but there's a lot of garbage and bulls*** involved with it and basically browbeating anybody who doesn't agree with you, you know, like a baker who doesn't want to make a cake because religiously he doesn't agree with your lifestyle. At what point do your individual rights stop and you have to bow down to somebody else's thing? Democracy is a messy thing.

I say more power to [Morrissey] for speaking up. And by the way, if you want to take advantage of capitalism, which is to have a record company give you money, you can't blame him.

Morrissey said: “Every major label in London has refused my album while also admitting that it is a masterpiece.” He claimed that label executives are worried that the media would make their lives hell if they release his music and support his message.

Well, look, record companies are a business. They're not here for a social tool. And when you go through a jungle, you've got to figure out where you want to go. Life isn't easy and then you die. That's all.

He'll be okay [laughs]. His rent is covered and he's got food in his belly. He'll figure it out.

It’s hard to understand why he wouldn't just release the album himself. I'm sure he has the resources to do so…

Because it's easier to do it when somebody else takes the risk and gives the money.

That's a good point.

That’s the only point.

Morrissey also just came out recently and said that AEG made a very lucrative offer for him and guitarist Johnny Marr to reunite The Smiths in 2025. Morrissey claims that he said yes, but Marr didn't even acknowledge the offer. I’m sure he’s really frustrated right now.

In 2007, Rolling Stone reported that Morrissey himself had turned down a $75 million dollar offer. It wouldn’t be shocking to imagine that the newest offer would be upwards of $100 million. Of course, that is total speculation.


Get rid of the guitar player and get somebody off. Nobody cares. They just want to hear the songs. I keep saying this over and over again. If you go down the street, and with all due respect to Johnny Marr, you go down the street and ask the general person, “Who's Johnny Marr?” they won't know who you're talking about.

[Hypothetically], saying no to $100 million dollars would be lunacy. What other job would pay you that!? Unless you’re willing to break your back and play football or something…


Not someone I ever thought would go in the Wiki.
Regards,
FWD.


Update:
Later became a Morrissey Central post:
Morrissey Central: "GENE Simmons" - September 13, 2024
 
Kiss were always harmless fun. You can't beat a bit of vaudeville.
In the 70s, some simple minds thought they were really superheroes and not humans. You have to come to terms with this exaggeration first.
Why else could a song be called "Almost Human"?
Morrissey and Simmons are so far apart, that they are almost touching again (taking the curvature of the earth into account).
If Morrissey loves the Dolls so much, why can't he cover "Love Gun"?
 
Morrissey is known pretty much in the world, unfortunately Johnny is not.
Brits assume everyone knows Johnny but for the rest of the world he’s the guitarist of The Smiths.
 
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Excerpt:

Below, Simmons discusses life after playing with KISS. He shares his views on Linkin Park’s relaunch and new vocalist, Emily Armstrong, who’s caused a stir due to her connections with Scientology. He discusses the long-awaited reconnection of the Oasis brothers, the drama surrounding Ticketmaster’s Dynamic Pricing for the band’s 2025 tour and his run-in with Liam Gallagher.

He also addresses Morrissey’s recent dismay with record label executives, the controversy surrounding his new album, Bonfire of Teenagers, and Morrissey’s claims that an offer for The Smiths reunion tour was neglected by guitarist Johnny Marr.



Specifically:

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More British rock news: An interview was recently published in The Telegraph with singer Morrissey, famously of The Smiths. To simplify, Morrissey is saying that he's been silenced by record labels who refuse to release his new album, Bonfire of Teenagers. This comes after years of drama: he was dropped by BMG, then signed to Capitol Records, which he claims then shelved the record, which he then purchased back from them, but has had no success shopping.

The controversy surrounding the album is related to the record’s title track, a song about the 2017 terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester which killed 22 people. Morrissey is critical about what he sees as a culturally “woke” reaction to the killings—even mentioning what he felt was a misuse of Oasis’ hit “Don’t Look Back in Anger” as a song of solidarity and hope in the city.

I'm curious what your thought is on the idea of labels withholding a major artist's music over political stances. Morrissey has likened it to them holding his art hostage, but also says he refuses to self-release the album.


Morrissey and I have exchanged pleasantries. He’s a great artist, terrific. It's funny to look at a gift horse in the mouth. We're all alive, and every artist and every human being has a right to express their opinion. “Here's my opinion on that. I think you should be angry”—or not. And that's his opinion.

I happen to agree with it. By the way. “Wokeism” intentionally means well, but there's a lot of garbage and bulls*** involved with it and basically browbeating anybody who doesn't agree with you, you know, like a baker who doesn't want to make a cake because religiously he doesn't agree with your lifestyle. At what point do your individual rights stop and you have to bow down to somebody else's thing? Democracy is a messy thing.

I say more power to [Morrissey] for speaking up. And by the way, if you want to take advantage of capitalism, which is to have a record company give you money, you can't blame him.

Morrissey said: “Every major label in London has refused my album while also admitting that it is a masterpiece.” He claimed that label executives are worried that the media would make their lives hell if they release his music and support his message.

Well, look, record companies are a business. They're not here for a social tool. And when you go through a jungle, you've got to figure out where you want to go. Life isn't easy and then you die. That's all.

He'll be okay [laughs]. His rent is covered and he's got food in his belly. He'll figure it out.

It’s hard to understand why he wouldn't just release the album himself. I'm sure he has the resources to do so…

Because it's easier to do it when somebody else takes the risk and gives the money.

That's a good point.

That’s the only point.

Morrissey also just came out recently and said that AEG made a very lucrative offer for him and guitarist Johnny Marr to reunite The Smiths in 2025. Morrissey claims that he said yes, but Marr didn't even acknowledge the offer. I’m sure he’s really frustrated right now.

In 2007, Rolling Stone reported that Morrissey himself had turned down a $75 million dollar offer. It wouldn’t be shocking to imagine that the newest offer would be upwards of $100 million. Of course, that is total speculation.


Get rid of the guitar player and get somebody off. Nobody cares. They just want to hear the songs. I keep saying this over and over again. If you go down the street, and with all due respect to Johnny Marr, you go down the street and ask the general person, “Who's Johnny Marr?” they won't know who you're talking about.

[Hypothetically], saying no to $100 million dollars would be lunacy. What other job would pay you that!? Unless you’re willing to break your back and play football or something…


Not someone I ever thought would go in the Wiki.
Regards,
FWD.


Update:
Later became a Morrissey Central post:
Morrissey Central: "GENE Simmons" - September 13, 2024
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Pretty much everyone knows who Morrissey is. The face, the hair. He's iconic. Whereas only people into music would recognise a pic of Johnny Marr.

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True that Johnny is not famous outside of people into music, but I disagree about Moz. I know I'm going to get hate for this, but I think you are kinda exaggerating how famous he really is. Especially for the general and younger audience. None of my relatives (we are from south america) know who Morrissey is and they are in their 30s. Some of you acting like he has Michael Jackson, Madonna or Whitney Houston levels of global stardom.
 
If anyone knows how to survive in the music business and make it as lucrative as possible it's Gene Simmons. Reading through the whole interview The Demon knows much about a lot! A theology student who majors in Capitalism. His takes on the record companies and Johnny Marr show what a staunch believer in the safety money can buy. I agree with the feeling that money is nice but the divine spark that creates "the cultures" that perpetuate "the brand" cannot be bought. The Smiths culture is strong worldwide, so is Morrisseys. I think that says enough. He's loved in all kinds of places. He'll be good 👍
 
He’s right to say that people just want to hear the Smiths songs and it doesn’t require a Smiths reunion. You can hear Smiths songs at Morrissey gigs, at Johnny Marr, at festivals when Johnny Marr joins The Killers on stage and Smiths songs performed by cover bands, most famously by Rick Astley + Blossoms. Enough to choose from.
i agree i believe if morrissey did an all smiths set he would sell out all his shows and pack every show in and i believe he would be able to sell out the larger arenas easily The only thing stopping that is Morrissey he tends to get in his own way and will put in a lot of his weaker shit songs which are his more recent music he has created and when he does put in his good songs they are the ones he’s played to death tour after tour. Honestly i was shocked he actually played Our Frank on the last tour he hadent played that since 91.
 
Morrissey would need a much better band to do a tour with only Smiths songs and he needs to sing them correctly, he really butchers them now
 
In the 70s, some simple minds thought they were really superheroes and not humans. You have to come to terms with this exaggeration first.
Why else could a song be called "Almost Human"?

Morrissey and Simmons are so far apart, that they are almost touching again (taking the curvature of the earth into account).
:lbf:(y)
If Morrissey loves the Dolls so much, why can't he cover "Love Gun"?

it’s because he loves the Dolls so much is why he wouldn’t cover Love Gun.

In general someone can see the Dolls and Kiss as entertainers or that they both wear makeup, but the similarities stop there.
But just like Morrissey and Gene, The Dolls and Kiss are almost touching again on that curvarture.
 
He really should do a Smiths only tour, if only once.

he could do it. Would definitely need to put in a lot of deep cuts. And should get Joyce onboard simply because it would ruffle Marr’s feathers.

I know you’re not saying he should, but I wonder if M got Mike and Craig and called
it a Smiths reunion, can Johnny put a legal stop to it? I don’t think he could, but I’m not sure.
 
:lbf:(y)


it’s because he loves the Dolls so much is why he wouldn’t cover Love Gun.

In general someone can see the Dolls and Kiss as entertainers or that they both wear makeup, but the similarities stop there.
But just like Morrissey and Gene, The Dolls and Kiss are almost touching again on that curvarture.
Interesting. The Dolls appeared like drags with make-up and heavy crossdressing too. Whereas Kiss only had make-up and superhero costums. 💋 were super straight. But funny, how you quote that curvature. Love Gun is over the top. Really.
 

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