Fiona Dodwell: "Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander" (July 15, 2020)

"One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME's clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian."

Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander

One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME’s clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian.

thepostmillennial.com

FWD.

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[Respo]

I love tiny striped socks.

Scrolling through, I misread your post at first...glad I double checked.

 

[Respo]

Who’s going to judge if an axe to your head is harmful, it isn't going to hurt me or anybody else, just you. It’s called having common sense and empathy you f***in idiot. You should know when and what words and actions are gonna cause harm. You shouldn’t have to wait till it’s said and done to see the effects.

Tut tut! Hangover?
Still not a good look.
Oh well, I'll never learn.

 

[Respo]

Bet you can't drag this out & waste your lives through to 100 pages...

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Veganism is growing worldwide. More and more people care about animal rights, their own health and the environment we live in.

This isn't something 'niche' to me. I see it as very important. I believe the way we treat animals and the environment reflects on how we are as human beings. When I read about what goes on in China's wet markets it made me feel physically sick.

What does being working class have to do with the LGBTQ movement? Has Morrissey said directly that he supports the LGBTQ movement?

You talk about Morrissey's parents being working class immigrants from the Republic of Ireland and their Catholic roots. Why does this matter to you so much? I have Irish roots myself so do many British people. Why does it matter to you about class issues and if someone has Irish blood? Morrissey's parents have lived around the Manchester area in Northern England for years. Vegetarianism has been part of Manchester for generations. It's a little-known fact that the modern vegetarian movement was founded in Greater Manchester in 1847! I used to live in Manchester. It has nothing to do with class issues being a vegetarian or a vegan. There is also a gay scene in Manchester. Are you trying to say Morrissey comes from a deprived background? Morrissey's parents are divorced like so many people's parents mine included anyway middle class and upper class people also have divorced parents. Morrissey is wealthy and successful these days and he has the means to care for his family please don't worry.

We were talking about average traditional English working-class opinions.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Pot and kettle. You always go around "explaining" moz even though you have no clue about the real deal

I always back it up with something he's said somewhere.

If you have a clue about the real deal then spill.

 

[ordinaryboy86]

Tut tut! Hangover?
Still not a good look.
Oh well, I'll never learn.

your obsession with me is flattering.

 

[Kurtan]

Morrissey's public support has collapsed because he supports an extremist group described as 'a bunch of Nazis', by Nigel Farage.

The claim that its just the Guardian or NME who are to blame is colossal nonsense; I'm not convinced the blogger believes it herself.

 

[Thewlis]

Morrissey's public support has collapsed because he supports an extremist group described as 'a bunch of Nazis', by Nigel Farage.

Yes, and we should always take Nigel Farage's word on anything, right?? He knows f*** all I can tell you, least about politics.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Morrissey's public support has collapsed because he supports an extremist group described as 'a bunch of Nazis', by Nigel Farage.

The claim that its just the Guardian or NME who are to blame is colossal nonsense; I'm not convinced the blogger believes it herself.

She does - because it's true.

You're repeating a cut n paste, social media version of the Nige story - which shows how these things happen.

Anne Marie said Nige branded her a Nazi during the UKIP leadership contest in an interview she gave after she lost. She denied she was far right & went off to set up her own party.

There's an interesting story of crank insanity there if any hack looked deeper - but they don't. They trot out a list of Morrissey's word crimes dating back to the 70s & denounce him as toxic.

 

[TCMinTX]

More drivel from Morrissey’s pet poodle.

If she actually believes this crap, then she’s dimmer than she looks.

Your misogynistic and objectify women.

 

[Kurtan]

Your misogynistic and objectify women.

Is anyone who says "he's dimmer than he looks" by definition a misandrist, or were you just desperately grasping at a means of trying to win an internet argument??

 

[Catholic]

Who’s going to judge if an axe to your head is harmful, it isn't going to hurt me or anybody else, just you. It’s called having common sense and empathy you f***in idiot. You should know when and what words and actions are gonna cause harm. You shouldn’t have to wait till it’s said and done to see the effects.

I would like to believe that empathy is what led me to the positions I stated.

I think a lot of people stand to terribly, terribly suffer in our brave new world.

People are already living in so much fear of the PC police, the Thought Police.

Terrible, terrible anxiety ...

So-called "common sense" changes over time. It seemed perfectly okay to many French after 1789 to massacre thousands upon thousands of innocent people in defence of "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" ...

Or, in another era, ordinaryboy86, your profanity would be censored as offensive and harmful - an "outrage to public decency".

In another era, this present time of silencing "haters" - both the real ones and millions that are innocent - is going to look horrific.

What can I say, ob86? One needs a clear system of values to decide who gets silenced and who doesn't.

So-called common sense won't cut it. Because what looks like common sense to you doesn't look at all that way to other "f****** idiots" out there . . .

Better lock us all up. Lock up ordinaryboy86. Lock up Catholic. Lock up HengeBoy. Lock up Nerak. Lock up GEM. Lock up ReelFountain.

See you all in jail folks! .

 

[Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888]

I would like to believe that empathy is what led me to the positions I stated.

I think a lot of people stand to terribly, terribly suffer in our brave new world.

People are already living in so much fear of the PC police, the Thought Police.

Terrible, terrible anxiety ...

So-called "common sense" changes over time. It seemed perfectly okay to many French after 1789 to massacre thousands upon thousands of innocent people in defence of "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" ...

Or, in another era, ordinaryboy86, your profanity would be censored as offensive and harmful - an "outrage to public decency".

In another era, this present time of silencing "haters" - both the real ones and millions that are innocent - is going to look horrific.

What can I say, ob86? One needs a clear system of values to decide who gets silenced and who doesn't.

So-called common sense won't cut it. Because what looks like common sense to you doesn't look at all that way to other "f****** idiots" out there . . .

Better lock us all up. Lock up ordinaryboy86. Lock up Catholic. Lock up HengeBoy. Lock up Nerak. Lock up GEM. Lock up ReelFountain.

See you all in jail folks! .

you are wasting your time, the guy is connected, another one for who the so called "TOS" does not apply to.

 

[Kagee]

Not bad.

Getting to the heart of the problem.

I hope he ends his war with the mainstream media & talks to hacks again.

It takes two parties for a war to ensue.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

It takes two parties for a war to ensue.

There is two parties.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

I would like to believe that empathy is what led me to the positions I stated.

I think a lot of people stand to terribly, terribly suffer in our brave new world.

People are already living in so much fear of the PC police, the Thought Police.

Terrible, terrible anxiety ...

So-called "common sense" changes over time. It seemed perfectly okay to many French after 1789 to massacre thousands upon thousands of innocent people in defence of "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" ...

Or, in another era, ordinaryboy86, your profanity would be censored as offensive and harmful - an "outrage to public decency".

In another era, this present time of silencing "haters" - both the real ones and millions that are innocent - is going to look horrific.

What can I say, ob86? One needs a clear system of values to decide who gets silenced and who doesn't.

So-called common sense won't cut it. Because what looks like common sense to you doesn't look at all that way to other "f****** idiots" out there . . .

Better lock us all up. Lock up ordinaryboy86. Lock up Catholic. Lock up HengeBoy. Lock up Nerak. Lock up GEM. Lock up ReelFountain.

See you all in jail folks! .

Ordinary doesn't know what's out there - saying anything in public can lead to a hounding.

 

[Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888]

There is two parties.

WTF???

what is this, the ghetto in Scotland?

"ARE"

 

[Deleted member 29417]

WTF???

what is this, the ghetto in Scotland?

"ARE"

I was treating it as a collective noun.

 

[Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888]

I was treating it as a collective noun.

is a collective noun the same as a dude wearing a dress?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

is a collective noun the same as a dude wearing a dress?

That would be entirely up to them.