Fiona Dodwell: "Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander" (July 15, 2020)

"One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME's clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian."

Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander

One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME’s clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian.

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FWD.

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[reelfountain]

I really don't think he likes people thinking he's racist though. Fighting cultural relativism badly, isn't the same thing as wanting people gone or hating based on skin colour.

And I can't find it funny when he looked so awful.

Going by Fiona, they're only grasping the problem now. And they still don't have a decent exit strategy.

Being called a racist is part and parcel of being a traditionalist nowadays - and when it comes to home and country, Moz is a traditionalist.

Mass engineered immigration didn't have to happen. New Labour made it happen. Most people do not celebrate this fact because they have seen the results with their own eyes and don't like them.

Take London: seven black-perpetrated street murders in the last twelve days (two last night). The majority of the killers (and victims) are from the wave of migration that Blair brought in the late 90s.

Things like this just piss people off - and when they air their views they get called a racist. It's inescapable nowadays.

 

[HengeBoy]

I that you are beggining to regret your attitude towards Morrissey, and now want him to apologize, so that you can take back your negative opinions on him.

Well, if you really understood Morrissey, you'd know that's never going to happen.

Therefore, you might as well give up the idea of becoming a Moz fan.

Yikes.. This is one big ass “In Your Dreams”

 

[reelfountain]

So with the likes of Bjork, Bob Dylan & Kate Bush who have all were never been mainstream yet their last albums charted in various charts around the world thus their not interesting because of that, wtf?

These people are "safe" investments. Bjork went up her own arse years ago, Kate Bush says nothing and Dylan is a heritage act. They simply shift units and play the game very efficiently.

I like the fact that nothing about Moz is "safe" - and never has been. He has always said "controversial" things. It's always been part of his appeal.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Being called a racist is part and parcel of being a traditionalist nowadays - and when it comes to home and country, Moz is a traditionalist.

Mass engineered immigration didn't have to happen. New Labour made it happen. Most people do not celebrate this fact because they have seen the results with their own eyes and don't like them.

Take London: seven black-perpetrated street murders in the last twelve days (two last night). The majority of the killers (and victims) are from the wave of migration that Blair brought in the late 90s.

Things like this just piss people off - and when they air their views they get called a racist. It's inescapable nowadays.

That's what you think - it's not what he thinks going by everything he's said.

He's a steadfast leftie blaming foreign policy right up until the Orlando massacre & then he doesn't turn on people, he thinks it's governments, the law & the media allowing these things to happen.

And it seems to be dawning on him that people think he's an actual racist.

And he clearly doesn't like it.

 

[HengeBoy]

These people are "safe" investments. Bjork went up her own arse years ago, Kate Bush says nothing and Dylan is a heritage act. They simply shift units and play the game very efficiently.

imagine thinking Bjork is safe when the Woman made an album entirely on human vocals... so clearly you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about

 

[reelfountain]

That's what you think - it's not what he thinks going by everything he's said.

He's a steadfast leftie blaming foreign policy right up until the Orlando massacre & then he doesn't turn on people, he thinks it's governments, the law & the media allowing these things to happen.

And it seems to be dawning on him that people think he's an actual racist.

And he clearly doesn't like it.

Morrissey simply has the views of a traditional working class Labour Party voter. These voters were always anti-immigration and had a sense of pride in their area, city and country. A strong "sense of home", as opposed to the new left globalist creed of "rootlessness" i.e you should never feel emotionally attached to an area (or have nationalist feelings) and simply go to wherever the money is. In other words you should simply think of yourself as nothing more than a moneymaking "unit" because that's all the government sees you as.

This is probably why the left abandoned the working class - because when Labour became pro-migrant, PC, pro-capitalist and globalist the working class refused to sing from the same script.

 

[Roger O]

I worked with this cool Irish fellow years ago who had come to New York from London where he had been in Kevin Spacey's theatre groupe with Colin Ferrell. He told me Colin fooled around with super creep Spacey who had just earned an oscar. Spacey then brought young Colin to Hollywood where he did very well of his own merits. This was right after Ballykiss Angel. I don't know how old anyone was but that is gross. Colin noooooooooooooo don't. Colin's straight. Sorry about icky story.

 

[reelfountain]

I worked with this cool Irish fellow years ago who had come to New York from London where he had been in Kevin Spacey's theatre groupe with Colin Ferrell. He told me Colin fooled around with super creep Spacey who had just earned an oscar. Spacey then brought young Colin to Hollywood where he did very well of his own merits. This was right after Ballykiss Angel. I don't know how old anyone was but that is gross. Colin noooooooooooooo don't. Colin's straight. Sorry about icky story.

Are you saying he bummed Spacey for a chance in Hollywood?

 

[Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888]

Maybe I am a nothing as far as you're concerned, I really don't care, but what are you?..apart from a nasty drunk?

You seem to have 'injected' nastiness into your personality, which is never a good look...sober or drunk. Have a look through your recent postings when you're sober & then have a good old think.

The ever drunk previous ordinarydrunk was, at times, funny, but after a few jars became obsessed with posting disgusting obscenities. Remember those...the ones which got you banned for a while?

This recent ordinarydrunk I see is just nasty & gnarled; I guess you're struggling with the drink.
I'm trying to be helpful & constructive, but maybe you can't see that just now...

its like those crime shows where the perp gets liquored up chops the victim, but then the next day 'blacks out'

 

[reelfountain]

imagine thinking Bjork is safe when the Woman made an album entirely on human vocals... so clearly you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about

Billy Joel did a song entirely on human vocals, big deal. Bjork was amazing in the Sugarcubes but then afterwards capitalised on her "kookiness" to a cloying degree. She's a safe careerist and well-behaved unit shifter now. Her "safe kookiness" is about as radical as a piece of 90s Brit Art.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Morrissey simply has the views of a traditional working class Labour Party voter. These voters were always anti-immigration and had a sense of pride in their area, city and country. A strong "sense of home", as opposed to the new left globalist creed of "rootlessness" i.e you should never feel emotionally attached to an area (or have nationalist feelings) and simply go to wherever the money is. In other words you should simply think of yourself as nothing more than a moneymaking "unit" because that's all the government sees you as.

This is probably why the left abandoned the working class - because when Labour became pro-migrant, PC, pro-capitalist and globalist the working class refused to sing from the same script.

He really doesn't.

He's a bit nostalgic & then he got alarmed by Islamic state.

He's said nothing even close to your stance on black people & nothing about Globalists.

 

[HengeBoy]

Billy Joel did a song entirely on human vocals, big deal. Bjork was amazing in the Sugarcubes but then afterwards capitalised on her "kookiness" to a cloying degree. She's a safe careerist and well-behaved unit shifter now. Her "safe kookiness" is about as radical as a piece of 90s Brit Art.

Yet the “kookiness” has brought her acclaim and stardom over the man you think defined & changed alternative music..yawn

 

[reelfountain]

Yet the “kookiness” has brought her acclaim and stardom over the man you think defined & changed alternative music..yawn

Just grow up and accept other people's opinions. Not everyone in life is going to have the same opinions as you. Morrissey has always courted controversy from the word go. His fans used to enjoy this aspect, until some became woke and intolerant. These are the ones who are now whining like spoiled brats. People in general were more intelligent in the past and understood about "difference", accepted it and even liked it. Nowadays there is lots of talk about "diversity", but it is empty talk - they simply want conformity.

 

[HengeBoy]

Just grow up and accept other people's opinions. Not everyone in life is going to have the same opinions as you. Morrissey has always courted controversy from the word go. His fans used to enjoy this aspect, until some became woke and intolerant. These are the ones who are now whining like spoiled brats. People in general were more intelligent in the past and understood about "difference", accepted it and even liked it. Nowadays there is lots of talk about "diversity", but it is empty talk - they simply want conformity.

Back to the opinions discussion since you couldn’t make another poor reply in regards of Björk, and so hateful opinions = diversity sure Karen... I’m all for actual diversity meaning non racist people should be accepted regardless of race, color or sexuality

 

[reelfountain]

He really doesn't.

He's a bit nostalgic & then he got alarmed by Islamic state.

He's said nothing even close to your stance on black people & nothing about Globalists.

The man who wrote 'Back to the Old House' is not just a bit nostalgic I'm afraid. He lives in a world inhabited by dead writers, poets and an England that doesn't exist anymore (and I know what you'll say - it never did).

What has happened to his England breaks his heart. I know this because I, and many others, feel this same pain. A country that was so special will never be the same again.

When the Manchester bomb went off on his birthday when he was back home was Moz's final straw. After that he fearlessly spoke out - time and time again. Yes, he's mellowed now somewhat because he doesn't want to commit total career suicide.

But ultimately what has destroyed the England that Moz loved (and sang about for years) is mass engineered immigration which was carried out first by Blair at the behest of his globalist masters. Moz knows this. He's read (and recommended) all the books that say this very same thing.

 

[reelfountain]

Back to the opinions discussion since you couldn’t make another poor reply in regards of Björk, and so hateful opinions = diversity sure Karen... I’m all for actual diversity meaning non racist people should be accepted regardless of race, color or sexuality

What about racist people who don't share your opinion?

 

[HengeBoy]

What about racist people who don't share your opinion?

What about them?

 

[reelfountain]

What about them?

Do you accept they have a right to their opinions?

I do, because I believe people have a right to free speech even if I disagree with it. But do you?

 

[gashonthenail]

Wearing a For Britain pin badge was the final straw, to be honest. Fouling up his earlier comeback with the Anne Marie Waters comments was also terrible.

At this stage, Morrissey has been insulated from anything approaching a normal life for four decades and is surrounded by payroll lackeys. He’s mined the topic of loneliness to death, and he’s hamstrung by the relatively obscure songwriters he chooses to work with (I suspect because he’s tight).

The List Of The Lost was, genuinely, embarrassing, and Autobiography cried out for an editor. Imagine if he’d worked with a talented author like Mark E Smith had done with Renegade?

Ive been a fan since the early 90s but going to see him at Wembley earlier this year was the first time other people - some who barely know music - expressed concern about my judgement. My taste isn’t dictated by the approval of others but it was very interesting to see that.

I predict a sad end, like Mrs Shufflewick, and I suspect he won’t get another record deal - which may be an act of mercy. It didn’t need to be like this and he’s only got himself to blame.

He supports a political party that wants to ban halal slaughter. If that's your final straw you should have jumped ship when The Smiths released 'Meat is Murder'. How does your prediction square with the fact that this year he released one of the best albums of his solo career? And that followed on the heels of a covers album that was sheer brilliance. People questioning your judgment in middle age is a compliment. Take it that way.

 

[HengeBoy]

Do you accept they have a right to their opinions?

I do, because I believe people have a right to free speech even if I disagree with it. But do you?

Um... I must ask, are you mentally unstable?