Morrissey Central "BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS, RIP" (February 13, 2023) - Morrissey vs Capitol Records

BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS, RIP - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS, RIP

MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY on MORRISSEY CENTRAL

www.morrisseycentral.com

Capitol Records (Los Angeles) proudly promotes Sam Smith’s ‘satanism’; yet they consider the honest truth of Morrissey’s factual ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’ to be their biggest threat and they will not release it despite their contractual obligation and promise to do so.

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Media coverage:

• Morrissey Whines That Capitol Promotes Sam Smith’s “Satanism” But Not His New Album - Consequence of Sound. Link posted by Never Welcome.
• Morrissey says Capitol will promote Sam Smith’s “satanism” but considers his unreleased album “their biggest threat” - NME. Link posted by Famous when dead.
• Morrissey Complains Capitol Is Promoting “Sam Smith’s ‘Satanism'” But Not His New Album - Stereogum. Link posted by Famous when dead.
• Morrissey says Capitol Records is prioritising Sam Smith’s ‘satanism’ over his new album - The Independent. Link posted by Famous when dead.

 

[theprivilegeismine]

I bet if M dies the two albuns will be released faster than the speed of light.

If he dies, EVERYTHING will be released or re-released faster than the speed of light.

 

[Redacted]

In October, Morrissey Central announced: "Capitol Records (Los Angeles) will release Morrissey’s ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’ in February 2023. The album will be released worldwide except for the United Kingdom, where there is no label deal."

Instead of all this pointless yelling at Capitol (who are clearly ignoring him), why not just take the money they paid him to license the album and self-release it in the UK. What's stopping him?

Because he can't release it with Miley Cyrus' vocals on it

 

[Juan Dulces]

If he dies, EVERYTHING will be released or re-released faster than the speed of light.

We can also get there WITHOUT that happening.

 

[Redacted]

Who is he screaming to with these posts? Who is listening?
I really don’t think this is morrissey on central, it’s SER who seems to have some quite extreme Christian views from what I’ve seen on his of instagram stories.

This is just another brick in the sodding wall that is the tomb Of morrissey‘s hope of being on a record label. No major label will take on a PR liability who launches twitter-length attacks via a website about everything that he dislikes.

I love the man, he can afford better than this, he can be better than this. Where is morrissey of 2003 coming out of the wilderness years with hunger and bite. All these posts do is damage the hope of bonfire seeing the light of day, but also any hit new songs that Alain writes for him. There will be no number 1 album if he keeps up like this.

I have to admit I was taken aback when I saw the Christian Right pov there. esp considering Miley has paraded around in some devil costumes herself and this has really always been a theme in rock - Ozzy, AC/DC etc. etc. I also think going after Sam Smith is very foolish, I am not a fan at all, but a lot of people are and he is just another popular artist that Central has tried to take down in all of this, Miley being one and some unamed circle.
It's true that people are up in arms over the Grammys and complaints are being filed with the FCC and it really was a disgusting display for a lot of reasons, but he would be wise to avoid trying to drag other people.

 

[theprivilegeismine]

We can also get there WITHOUT that happening.

I'm perfectly aware of that but thanks, Juan! It's really not a nice thought at all. Hopefully, it can be solved without going down the route of litigation because, as someone who works in that field, I know, as do many others, that it isn't a swift process. Once bureaucracy comes into play everything turns to shit.

 

[Never Welcome.]

Morrissey Whines That Capitol Promotes Sam Smith’s “Satanism” But Not His New Album

Morrissey whines that Capitol promotes Sam Smith's "satanism" but not his new album

Morrissey has complained that Capitol Records won't release his album Bonfire of Teenagers but promotes Sam Smith's "satanism."

consequence.net

 

[Anonomous]

Gotta side with Morrissey on this one. Maybe Miss Miley was the Mata Hari used to "sabotage" this record from the start and Morrissey too. Capital is huge and could bend rules if they wanted but they don't want too. They can also make or break careers. So the why question comes to mind. Make us money and now, be woke too. Don't make us enough money and not be woke, or woke enough ? Finito ! The lights go off, the curtain closes.
Joan Crawford, Betty Davis,Mickey Rooney, Peter Lawford, Judy Garland all Hollywood big wheels got shit canned in way, or another. Look what they did to Bobby Driscoll and what happened to Sal Mineo after his venture into soft porn. Too diverse in Mr Mineo's case was an understatement. He wound up in dump apartment in L.A...dead.
It's kinda like this Morrissey, when they want you, they want you. But when they don't, they really don't.
Just make more great songs that someone will have to like. You'd have to do that even if Bonfire was released or not. But hey, if worse does come to worse your in good company here with Joan Crawford and company. Good Luck Morrissey !!!

 

[Famous when dead]

Morrissey says Capitol will promote Sam Smith’s “satanism” but considers his unreleased album “their biggest threat”

Morrissey says Capitol will promote Sam Smith's "satanism" but considers his unreleased album "their biggest threat"

Morrissey has again hit out at former label Capitol Records for shelving his unreleased album 'Bonfire of Teenagers'.

www.nme.com

Morrissey Complains Capitol Is Promoting “Sam Smith’s ‘Satanism'” But Not His New Album

Morrissey Complains Capitol Is Promoting "Sam Smith's 'Satanism'" But Not His New Album

Earlier in the month, Morrissey claimed that he was “coming around to the belief” that Capitol was intentionally sabotaging the release of his new album Bonfire Of Teenagers. Now, the embattled singer is complaining that Capitol Records is prioritizing “Sam Smith’s ‘satanism'” over Bonfire Of...

www.stereogum.com

Morrissey accuses Capitol Records of promoting Sam Smith's 'satanism' but scrapping his own album

Morrissey accuses Capitol Records of promoting Sam Smith's 'satanism' but scrapping his own album

Morrissey says Capitol
Records is prioritising Sam
Smith's 'satanism' over his
new album

Morrissey says Capitol Records is promoting Sam Smith’s ‘satanism’ over his new album

Singer’s comments come after Sam Smith and Kim Petras’s controversial Grammys performance

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Anonomous]

The Sam Smith beast is a satanic hellion and the Cyrus woman is the devil's dominatrix in cheap pissy smelling leather and chrome, howling and exposing herself onstage ! C ya Moz !

 

[Phranc & Open]

Morrissey Whines That Capitol Promotes Sam Smith’s “Satanism” But Not His New Album

Morrissey whines that Capitol promotes Sam Smith's "satanism" but not his new album

Morrissey has complained that Capitol Records won't release his album Bonfire of Teenagers but promotes Sam Smith's "satanism."

consequence.net

"Despite denying his right-wing allegiances, Morrissey has subscribed to yet another right-wing belief, this time regarding Sam Smith’s supposed ties to Satanism."
He definitely needed that link at that moment. It was like standing on the funeral pyre with an oil can in hand.
Trying to drag Sam Smith into his own disaster is just plain stupid.

 

[Redacted]

"Despite denying his right-wing allegiances, Morrissey has subscribed to yet another right-wing belief, this time regarding Sam Smith’s supposed ties to Satanism."
He definitely needed that link at that moment. It was like standing on the funeral pyre with an oil can in hand.
Trying to drag Sam Smith into his own disaster is just plain stupid.

I think we all could have predicted the media would latch onto that

 

[Anonymous]

I thought he knew fully well that journalists-who-lie would twist and turn his inverted commas around the word satanist. Who thought it was a good idea to even bring that up in the first place? SMH...

 

[Phranc & Open]

I think we all could have predicted the media would latch onto that

Media aside. How much arch-conservative American thinking is coming through here? Absolutely no sense for the modern LGBTQ community, celebrating people like Smith. Sam Smith seems to be acting out more and more in his videos. He doesn't do obsessive diets anymore and is 100% himself (love it or not) but Sam and Morrissey only talk about Satanism which is at most a stylistic device because Smith wants to do "forbidden things". And this from someone, who never stood to his own homosexuality and had to call it humasexuality. It pis#@! me off more and more, if that's even possible.

 

[SeniorLife]

Ffs what a planet we live on. Time for the Apes to Rise again.

I miss the days when album titles were sometimes ambiguous. E.g., Kill Uncle…or clever such as Strangways…. It’s almost as in the earlier days the music came first, and the social commentary came second. There are exceptions, The Queen, Meat….

But now it seems it’s topsy turvey. The social commentary is first, supported by good to average music.

Morrissey, you are one of the greatest lyricists in the history of music. Let the music come first, then the sometimes ambiguous social commentary.

We don’t need you generally to teach us about world politics. We need you to satiate our musical cravings from someone with whom we love.

 

[Phranc & Open]

Bowie was into Satanism during his heroin phase. Smith pays tribut to Bowie with his outfit during the Brits and still SER (with Ms approval) posts such crude messages.

 

[cameronk]

Why doesn't he just Reprise Records his way out of this? Surely he's not a poor man standing

 

[blah blah]

So to clear it up

This album is not released by Capitol because of the title track or its material. Do you not think they knew the name of the album and what was on it before they bought it? Of course they did. So let check that off the list.

Likely it was postponed because Miley record label wanted a piece of the roylaites and Capitol knew they would never make enough off the album to give them anything, so they didn't. They likely asked Morrissey to record "veronica" whic he refused to do, so no release.

Now after this time Morrissey complained, cried, etc..typical Morrissey shit that he really should have grown out of by now. However we all know that he will never do that since he is still cancelling shows, complaining about poor me, and using the " there is no real artist" crap over and over to explain why his music isn't more popular.

Fact are, if he would have shut up this the record companies would have worked it out and it likely would have been released.

As for UK release, now reason why he can't just take Veronica off the album and release it there, however if your a record company now what reason would you have to sign Morrissey?

Until Morrissey grows up, this is the outcome and he will likely have to release these album on this own if we ever want to hear the songs..Which i do!

 

[Redacted]

Media aside. How much arch-conservative American thinking is coming through here? Absolutely no sense for the modern LGBTQ community, celebrating people like Smith. Sam Smith seems to be acting out more and more in his videos. He doesn't do obsessive diets anymore and is 100% himself (love it or not) but Sam and Morrissey only talk about Satanism which is at most a stylistic device because Smith wants to do "forbidden things". And this from someone who never stood to his own homosexuality and had to call it humasexuality. It pisses me off more and more, if that's even possible.

Arch-conservative American thinking is coming through, the evangelical fundamentalists definitely have a problem with it, but it is a general sentiment here that the LGBTQ community has been pushing things much too far and there were many predictions that once gay marriage was legalized, we'd be seeing that. I tend to agree with that and see the 'satanism' as any other gimmick or rebellion or attempt to be edgy; it's expected. In the United States, a lot of people are becoming less afraid to ask the gay people and their community to t0ne it down and some gays are coming around and starting to agree, and they think it makes all of them look bad.
I honestly never knew what to think about Morrissey's sexuality, there was a point where I did not believe he was gay, then I thought he was bi and I still kind of think that. As for him not wanting to put a label on it, I felt it was his choice. I didn't think people should try to out him and I think maybe he cleared it up in Autobio? Talking about his relationship with a man? I never believed he was celibate, ever, not those years he was in the Smiths or any time at all.
I think the problem here is his hypocrisy regarding his career, he wants the fame of the people he so bitterly criticizes and completely ignores the fact that they probably all played 'the game' he refuses to play in order to get it. He think it should come on merit alone, but nothing ever does, no matter what profession you are in, there are always the 'office politics' you have to play if you want to get ahead and you have to deal with people you don't like and learn to take orders from people above you; it's just how it is.
The bottom line is he is niche, he does not sell a lot, he never would, a lot of people actually don't like him or the Smiths, he's had a great run regardless.

 

[Thewlis]

So to clear it up

This album is not released by Capitol because of the title track or its material. Do you not think they knew the name of the album and what was on it before they bought it? Of course they did. So let check that off the list.

Likely it was postponed because Miley record label wanted a piece of the roylaites and Capitol knew they would never make enough off the album to give them anything, so they didn't. They likely asked Morrissey to record "veronica" whic he refused to do, so no release.

Now after this time Morrissey complained, cried, etc..typical Morrissey shit that he really should have grown out of by now. However we all know that he will never do that since he is still cancelling shows, complaining about poor me, and using the " there is no real artist" crap over and over to explain why his music isn't more popular.

Fact are, if he would have shut up this the record companies would have worked it out and it likely would have been released.

As for UK release, now reason why he can't just take Veronica off the album and release it there, however if your a record company now what reason would you have to sign Morrissey?

Until Morrissey grows up, this is the outcome and he will likely have to release these album on this own if we ever want to hear the songs..Which i do!

True, Capitol knew about the title track and possibly also about Miley's vocals that had to be removed from Veronica and still released RWA.
The releationship between Morrissey and Capitol soured after that release.
Why is anyone's guess.

 

[Redacted]

I would take this to mean contractual obligations on both sides are over, gone, done
Morrissey has also voluntarily withdrawn from any association with Capitol Records (Los Angeles.)