Morrissey Central "Bonfire of teenagers" (February 7, 2024)

Bonfire of teenagers

Bonfire Of Teenagers. - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - Bonfire Of Teenagers.

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[Anonymous]

He's too gay* & self-deprecating for the incel community. When his reputation tanked some pundits hit on his reputation for celibacy as an explantion - that's as far as it goes.

*I mean his work.

True, but only if you can read the coded signs. I suspect most of us long-in-the-tooth Smiths/Morrissey fans, with their knowledge of Morrissey's usual homoerotic bents, will detect a hint of the narrator's queer longing and jealousy of the brides claiming the male in songs like 'William', 'I Know It's Over', and 'Kick the Bride Down the Aisle'.

Without that knowledge though, I can certainly see how the lyrics can be (mis)read to fit the incel narrative. 'Pretty Girls Make Graves' is pretty much the definitive song about some guy getting 'red-pilled' and seeing the light about women after a 'Chad' comes along on the beach and takes his 'Stacy'.

 

[Malarkey]

True, but only if you can read the coded signs. I suspect most of us long-in-the-tooth Smiths/Morrissey fans, with their knowledge of Morrissey's usual homoerotic bents, will detect a hint of the narrator's queer longing and jealousy of the brides claiming the male in songs like 'William', 'I Know It's Over', and 'Kick the Bride Down the Aisle'.

Without that knowledge though, I can certainly see how the lyrics can be (mis)read to fit the incel narrative. 'Pretty Girls Make Graves' is pretty much the definitive song about some guy getting 'red-pilled' and seeing the light about women after a 'Chad' comes along on the beach and takes his 'Stacy'.

But he accepts that he feels bad & he's not manly enough. Incels don't.

 

[goinghome]

If you could add the words “I think” to most of your posts, they wouldn’t come across so arsehole-ish.

Reminds me of a self-help book about assertiveness and 'transactional analysis' that was wildly popular for ages, called, I'm OK, You're OK

The ‘games’ that people played were like worn-out loops of tape we inherited from childhood, yet continued to let roll. Though limiting and destructive, they were also a sort of comfort, absolving us of the need to really confront unresolved psychological issues. Berne’s brand of psychotherapy involved asking the client what he or she wanted ‘fixed’ and proceeding to fix it. There was no assumption of underlying malaise. This new approach was of course the essence of self-help.​

Harris used Berne’s work as a basis for his own, but instead of analyzing the games we play, focused on the internal voices that speak to us all the time in the form of archetypal characters: the Parent, the Adult and the Child (the PAC framework). All of us have Parent, Adult or Child ‘data’ guiding our thoughts and decisions, and Harris believed that transactional analysis would free up the Adult, the reasoning voice. The Adult in us prevents a hijack by unthinking obedience (Child), or ingrained habit or prejudice (Parent), leaving us a vestige of free will.​

 

[JoeSellMozza]

What‘s going on here? It has nothing to do with free BOT, hasn‘t it?

 

[The Alchemist]

What‘s going on here? It has nothing to do with free BOT, hasn‘t it?

 

[goinghome]

I was shocked listening to Mark talk about Your Arsenal on his Notcast, when he said that the record production for the frenetic compilation album, Beethoven Was Deaf, a favorite, has been wiped. Leading me to ponder options so that musicians can retain control and storage. With Bonfire of Teenagers also in mind.

Has anyone used bandzoogle to sell music? https://bandzoogle.com/features/sell?pc=SPIN

The blurb says: "Your fans. Your store.
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[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

I was shocked listening to Mark talk about Your Arsenal on his Notcast, when he said that the record production for the frenetic compilation album, Beethoven Was Deaf, a favorite, has been wiped. Leading me to ponder options so that musicians can retain control and storage. With Bonfire of Teenagers also in mind.

What? BwasDeaf was not a compilation. And what’s ‘been wiped’ about it?

Has anyone used bandzoogle to sell music? https://bandzoogle.com/features/sell?pc=SPIN

The blurb says: "Your fans. Your store.
Bandzoogle gives you the tools to directly engage and sell to your audience online. With your own exclusive music eCommerce website you cut out the gatekeepers and sell to your own fans, your own way."

 

[Anonymous]

BwasDeaf was not a compilation.

At a stretch I suppose you could call it a live compilation, as half of the tracks were recorded in London and half in Paris?

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

At a stretch I suppose you could call it a live compilation, as half of the tracks were recorded in London and half in Paris?

Compared to a proper compilation that’s promoted as a compilation? Yes I would say it’s in error to call BWD a compilation.

Though some call Bona Drag an album. When to me it is a compilation.

 

[Ashley_TakeABow]

Compared to a proper compilation that’s promoted as a compilation? Yes I would say it’s in error to call BWD a compilation.

Though some call Bona Drag an album. When to me it is a compilation.

I've always thought it leans more towards being a compilation as well, because Suedehead and Sunday are on Viva Hate already.

 

[goinghome]

Observation Blogger's review of Rebels Without Applause (28 May 2024)

...Rebels Without Applause seems to originate from Morrissey’s reflections on unsung heroes and the often unnoticed acts of rebellion that shape our world. As he mentioned in an interview, the song is a homage to “those who fight the good fight in silence, without the grandstanding or recognition they deserve“. This theme of quiet resistance and the lack of acknowledgement resonates deeply in today’s social media-driven culture where visibility often overshadows substance.

Rebels Without Applause (2022) – Morrissey

As nice a nod Rebels Without Applause is to that of Rebel Without a Cause, the James Dean-led feature from the 1950s, that is where the similarities start and end. One a piece of reb…

observationblogger.com

 

[markreed]

I was shocked listening to Mark talk about Your Arsenal on his Notcast, when he said that the record production for the frenetic compilation album, Beethoven Was Deaf, a favorite, has been wiped. Leading me to ponder options so that musicians can retain control and storage. With Bonfire of Teenagers also in mind.

Has anyone used bandzoogle to sell music? https://bandzoogle.com/features/sell?pc=SPIN

The blurb says: "Your fans. Your store.
Bandzoogle gives you the tools to directly engage and sell to your audience online. With your own exclusive music eCommerce website you cut out the gatekeepers and sell to your own fans, your own way."

It wasn't Beethoven Was Deaf that was the compilation. When Moz agreed with Parlophone to do the remaster/reissues of VH, BD, Kill Uncle, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall And I, it was also agreed that the label would delete Beethoven Was Deaf and The World Of Morrissey. The latter is presumably the frenetic compilation album.

 

[goinghome]

A blogger explains why Bonfire of Teenagers should be released

Morrissey - Bonfire Of Teenagers (2023)

albumsiwishexisted2.blogspot.com

 

[Deleted member 32244]

Wow, almost died of shock there when I saw this thread and thought it was announcing a release date for an album recorded over four years ago. THIS ALBUM WILL NOT BE RELEASED in 2024. I doubt it will ever see the light of day. Lest we forget there is ANOTHER album recorded after BOT that also won't be released. It's beyond pathetic.

 

[JoeSellMozza]

Wow, almost died of shock there when I saw this thread and thought it was announcing a release date for an album recorded over four years ago. THIS ALBUM WILL NOT BE RELEASED in 2024. I doubt it will ever see the light of day. Lest we forget there is ANOTHER album recorded after BOT that also won't be released. It's beyond pathetic.

Don‘t panic, release news about BOT will see the light of day this autumn for sure, as the euphoric messages from Moz & Jesse clearly indicate.

 

[The Alchemist]

Don‘t panic, release news about BOT will see the light of day this autumn for sure, as the euphoric messages from Moz & Jesse clearly indicate.

 

[thejusticecode]

Which comes out first: BOT or GTA VI?

 

[sparacus]

As I’ve said before, he should return to HMV/Parlophone and try to get his catalogue under one roof. Moving around umpteen labels seems to have done him no good at all and Mercury & Harvest both look like they were disasters.

 

[uwotm8]

Which comes out first: BOT or GTA VI?

Which comes out first: BOT or GTA VI?

BOT I think 80% chance 20% GTA

 

[thejusticecode]

BOT I think 80% chance 20% GTA

I think the percentage for GTA might be higher. They're now saying "late 2025".