Total Guitar: Carmen Vandenberg interview - Morrissey album mention (September, 2024 issue)

Carmen mentioning some new information?
Joe Chiccarelli at the helm?

The ’board she had with her for the interview was set up for her work with Morrissey, with whom she is recording an album.
“With Morrissey, I’m using a CV30 and a Supro. I used a lot of Supro on the Bones UK record.

There is also that solo album in progress: “Coming out in a few years, or whenever I’m ready.” And while working with Morrissey, she’s filling the giant shoes of not only Johnny Marr but also Morrissey alumni Jesse Tobias and Alain Whyte – while maintaining the same philosophy that propels Soft.
As she says of her performance on a new Morrissey song: “There’s a solo with this bum note. I played it over and over to make people believe that I did it on purpose. But I didn’t go and change it. I don’t want to change mistakes
anymore. That humanity – I miss it on records. So I want to keep it in there. I’m learning a lot, doing a record with Morrissey and Joe Chiccarelli, who’s an incredible producer. Again, just plenty of time to learn a bunch of things that I didn’t know before. Even just the way he writes in his melodies.”

Regards,
FWD.

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[goinghome]

The untouchable underrated producer Sylvia Massy, here’s some footage of her recording piano with Tool ….

Fascinating, but is it more special effects or music she's producing? Maybe she does a lot of work in film. Mainly metal bands, I see; thus the severe tactics. Ryan probably knows of her...

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Fascinating, but is it more special effects or music she's producing? Maybe she does a lot of work in film. Mainly metal bands, I see; thus the severe tactics. Ryan probably knows of her...

She’s a producer of records. She’s worked with many, from Tool to Prince to Johnny Cash, etc.

btw, making records is in fact a special effect.

 

[Johnnie Ray]

Thanks for the heads-up. She's very good. I hadn't heard of her. Apparently, she's from Wales. I think she and Morrissey would overlap artistically quite a bit. I'm just listening to her song, Remembering Me

NOOOOOOooooooo......

 

[bhops]

Great. I can't wait to see Morrissey to tour again so he can play another load of songs that people can't listen to except via recordings of the tour uploaded onto YouTube.

It's back to the early 2000s we go!

 

[Jamie]

Everyone is talking about a third album…Maybe they are making new takes for BOT and WMTWD because in Jesse’s macabros plan of take off the man to Alain’s Guitars and Gustavo’s Keys in the last record. Little time ago he posted something like “we are making better than 25 years Morrissey’s carrer”

Well, that would be a ridiculous, spiteful and wholly petty error - even worse than dismissing Alain from the Years of Refusal recording sessions. I cannot imagine any conceivable way either Alain or Gustavo would ever return to the fold if their musical contributions were wiped from Without Music The World Dies.

 

[Ashley_TakeABow]

Thanks for the heads-up. She's very good. I hadn't heard of her. Apparently, she's from Wales. I think she and Morrissey would overlap artistically quite a bit. I'm just listening to her song, Remembering Me

Cheers! Fantastic song. That's on Pompeii, that and Reward are my favorite albums of hers, but really.. Crab Day is very precious to me.

 

[Famous when dead]

Isn't it nice when this awful site makes things available so that 'superfans' can leech the information without a grain of credit - is it how it might make them look that's the issue or just plain ignorance!?

Anyway, here's a non-specific reply by Carmen on seeing the lifted pages in the OP via a different source on IG...

FWD.

 

[Mayfly]

Well, that would be a ridiculous, spiteful and wholly petty error - even worse than dismissing Alain from the Years of Refusal recording sessions. I cannot imagine any conceivable way either Alain or Gustavo would ever return to the fold if their musical contributions were wiped from Without Music The World Dies.

This idea is very disgusting indeed and I sincerely hope it isn’t true. As far as I am aware of, the only thing that deserves to be removed from WMTWD are the words to Notre Dame.

BoT could probably do with some vocal retakes. The vocals on the studio version of Rebels wasn’t at par with the live version. And they still need a replacement for Miley’s voice. They can ask Rosie Bones, Carmen’s songwriting partner of Bones UK.

 

[Dorothy]

Isn't it nice when this awful site makes things available so that 'superfans' can leech the information without a grain of credit - is it how it might make them look that's the issue or just plain ignorance!?

Anyway, here's a non-specific reply by Carmen on seeing the lifted pages in the OP via a different source on IG...

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FWD.

Sorry, I don't quite understand what happened here FWD? Won't you please explain more?

 

[JerryCan]

... And they still need a replacement for Miley’s voice. They can ask Rosie Bones, Carmen’s songwriting partner of Bones UK.

Excellent idea.

 

[Anonymous]

With all the attention she is getting, someone might steal her away with a bigger paycheck

 

[Paul Andrews]

Are these photographs terrible or what? Carmen looks like a 'alt rocker' put together by a focus group from central casting. It is sad that Morrissey no longer has a proper band, just a carousel of renta muso's.

 

[Johnny]

Are these photographs terrible or what? Carmen looks like a 'alt rocker' put together by a focus group from central casting. It is sad that Morrissey no longer has a proper band, just a carousel of renta muso's.

No. They look great and she is a terrific musician.

 

[Jamie]

With all the attention she is getting, someone might steal her away with a bigger paycheck

To be fair, most of this is based on her other work. Morrissey is only mentioned tangentially.

Beyond one obscure article that came out around the release of Southpaw Grammar, no guitar magazine ever did an in-depth look at Alain's and Boz's time with Morrissey. It's a shame because they are both true guitar "gearheads" who came up with a goodly number of memorable riffs and tones over the years. It'd be interesting to see the technical side of their contributions explored more.

 

[goinghome]

She’s a producer of records. She’s worked with many, from Tool to Prince to Johnny Cash, etc.

btw, making records is in fact a special effect.

Yes, she's in this list of top 10 female producers:

3. Sylvia Massy: Since the mid-1980s, Michigan-born producer and engineer Massy has shaped the pummeling hard rock sounds of bands like System of a Down and Tool, as well as the Red Hot Chili Peppers. She also worked as an engineer alongside Rick Rubin on Johnny Cash’s Grammy-winning 1997 album, Unchained.

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

George Harrison’s “All Things Must Pass” and the Clash’s “Sandinista!” come to mind.

was about to say same thing. He called call "These days are stolen " or something, and it could be a cover his life and opinions over the last 4 years

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

To be fair, most of this is based on her other work. Morrissey is only mentioned tangentially.

Beyond one obscure article that came out around the release of Southpaw Grammar, no guitar magazine ever did an in-depth look at Alain's and Boz's time with Morrissey. It's a shame because they are both true guitar "gearheads" who came up with a goodly number of memorable riffs and tones over the years. It'd be interesting to see the technical side of their contributions explored more.

Yes, maybe Marrs Gutiars, can do a second volume and have a fecking chat with em.

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

I am so tired of waiting to hear these completed yet unreleased Morrissey albums. It makes me crazier than I already am knowing these exist but that no one can listen to them, nor is there any promising news about these albums being available and forthcoming.

Therefore I cannot allow myself to feel much excitement at the prospect of Morrissey recording another album. It's depressing but sadly I've never been much of an optimist.

I hope I am wrong. These past five years have been the most difficult period of my life and I'd really love for all of these albums to be released in quick but realistic succession beginning in the extremely near future. Perhaps new Morrissey music could pull me out of the grave and make this skeleton dance.

5 years?
isn't it 4? Maybe you are right I lost track

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

these should have got the fecking front page status , its the best Moz update for years. LOL

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

With all this talk of 3 LPs I feel compelled to break confidence and reveal that I have it (from a source* very close to our Moz) that the 3 albums will indeed be released soon. One EP every two months. Each EP will feature two songs on side A with special etching on side B.

A series of concerts supporting the EPs is currently being scheduled to begin in December where one EP will be played per night. Two songs with an interval of 50 mins between songs to allow slack jawed attendees to pick their jaws back off the floor.

Each LP is extremely limited to 10 per customer, targeting the mid-range price of £35. Signed editions (Morrissey's name scratched on side B) will be available at the reasonable price of £350 (two for £699) - each signature will look slightly different and may not be in English.

* the baker who sells bread to our Moz.

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oh man , that picture