Scott Rodger (Maverick) leaks Morrissey information and email re: Bonfire / Miley via X (October 17, 2023)

There's been drama!

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• Scott Rodger (Maverick/Quest): Bonfire of Teenagers scheduled for Feb. 23, delayed by featured artist - Dec 24, 2022

 

[Crisstti]

I’m gonna guess that Ron Perry mistakenly thought the record was already pressed (?)

Yes, but if it was before her contract, then
should it be up to Columbia? I guess it is.

Was Ron Perry mistaken, though? Do we know?

 

[Marsadjusted]

Was Ron Perry mistaken, though? Do we know?

I reckon there’s got to be some test pressings for the album out there somewhere. Maybe one day they will show up on eBay.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Maybe her record contract prevents her from saying owt.

Yeah, I could imagine her telling M ( if she ever does or has ) that her hands are tied due to the contract.

Besides Morrissey not willing to play the game
and sabotaging it all. Columbia probably wanted a huge chunk of cash, and Capitol were not willing to pay it. And of course Morrissey wouldn’t, because in his mind he still believes that the artist is always right in matters of business, and all businesses have one priority, and that is to make money, not lose it. I feel for him, but unfortunately, it doesn’t work the way he wish it would.

 

[Malarkey]

Everything indicates it was her label that didn't want her credited. Nothing to do with her not wanting to be associated with him.

M's trying to find out what Miley thinks about him while saying that she's so huge her name on his 45 couldn't negatively position her.

A new tour manager would at least give Morrissey the chance of a fresh start. And also Donnie could go  ruin manage a country singer.

 

[Gray Fruit]

Why would Roger the Dogger share these private emails on social media , what is in it for him?

Should Capital not have a contractual obligation to keep such emails private.

If I leaked such data from my.employer I would be fired.

I would think that Capitol told Scott Rodger to release that information. It's not cool for Moz to unfairly single out Capitol CEO Michelle Jubelirer on his website, putting her picture out there for any crazy fan to get at. As someone on this site put it, he's bullying a woman in a way that makes her vulnerable to being a target. The plane stunt probably set off alarm bells.

 

[NoNeedToKnowReally]

Another thing is that I'm listening to these few seconds of the studio version of I am Veronica on headphones and I'm afraid that the whole album may be screwed up by the producer.

Every bit I have heard, same as everyone else, sounds tinny to me from the production sound. And when I listened to the Veronica clip someone posted here earlier in the thread same. I am not the only person who said this. Something sounds cheap, I am no professional, but it sounds not high quality.

 

[hand in glove]

Everything indicates it was her label that didn't want her credited. Nothing to do with her not wanting to be associated with him.

I see what you mean, but she’s not deaf or blind. She knows this is happening. She could speak up. I feel like if she had any decency she would - especially if she considers herself a fan.

 

[Mozzypaws]

Another thing is that I'm listening to these few seconds of the studio version of I am Veronica on headphones and I'm afraid that the whole album may be screwed up by the producer.

Agreed. I felt this way about Rebels

 

[Famous when dead]

Scott Rodger appears active:

 

[Amy]

+1

It's all about constantly trying to grab your attention negatively to let him live rent free on your head with his endless

What else is Central but an outlet for his every thought, rant and vendetta, to a point where he now has fans trolling Capitol execs on his behalf. Does anyone need to be invested in that petulant crap, really?

The only thing this "drama" achieves is to detract from the music and show Moz as a totally dysfunctional person, a guy who is obsessed with his own fame and status and has barely a friend in the world. Maybe he's always been like that but I miss the days when we didn't have to see it up close. The music is all that matters.

 

[Anonomous]

I would think that Capitol told Scott Rodger to release that information. It's not cool for Moz to unfairly single out Capitol CEO Michelle Jubelirer on his website, putting her picture out there for any crazy fan to get at. As someone on this site put it, he's bullying a woman in a way that makes her vulnerable to being a target. The plane stunt probably set off alarm bells.

Yea he targeted her on his website directly like a thug.

 

[Mozzypaws]

Morrissey should blame Columbia, not Capitol, for not allowing Miley to appear on Veronica

 

[Anonomous]

What else is Central but an outlet for his every thought, rant and vendetta, to a point where he now has fans trolling Capitol execs on his behalf. Does anyone need to be invested in that shit, really?

The only thing this "drama" achieves is to detract from the music and show Moz as a totally dysfunctional person, a guy who is obsessed with his own fame and status and who barely has a friend in the world that isn't on the payroll. Maybe he's always been like that but I miss the days when we didn't have to see it up close.

Yea and he targeted the CEO of Capitol records directly on his website with a picture of her and given the unstable nature of some people these days it is a very uncool thing to do. Just like a thug when in fact she has nothing to do with his own fiasco.

 

[Crisstti]

Embarrassing though this is, I can't help but feel that it's positive. What we have learnt is that the disagreement is over something minor (hopefully even Morrissey might change his mind, and I suppose it is possible that Miley's dispute with Colombia might even be resolved, which would solve it all).

We have also learnt that M would only have to pay a small fee to get the album rights and that Capitol want to give it back.

Obviously still concerning that he can't get a new label for Without Music but who knows what's really going on there.

I wonder if M will actually respond to this and give his perspective

Yes, it's definitely good to know he does have the possibility of buying the album back. So if he signs a new record deal or decides to self release, we should hear Bonfire.

 

[Crisstti]

Yea and he targeted the CEO of Capitol records directly on his website with a picture of her and given the unstable nature of some people these days it is a very uncool thing to do. Just like a thug when in fact she has nothing to do with his own fiasco.

We do not know that she had nothing to do with it?
Very likely that a lot more went down than what his (unprofessional) ex manager put on Twitter.
There's even a 9 month gap between the emails he posted.
And he uses an email from a Columbia executive saying that they won't allow Miley to be credited, as evidence that M didn't respect Miley's wish as he said he would?

Morrissey seems completely unaware at that point that Columbia was the issue (and we don't even know that it was then)

 

[Geoffrey Ingram]

Morrissey should blame Columbia, not Capitol, for not allowing Miley to appear on Veronica

Or blame himself for naming Miley when apparently he was spefically asked not to.

 

[Malarkey]

Scott Rodger appears active:

Scott @'d in Morrissey's official Twitter which hasn't been used for about 2 years - so he's not up on Morrissey's social media situation.

The bullying accusation is based on Central & the behaviour of "crazed fans" - none of which needs to involve Morrissey.

 

[Geoffrey Ingram]

Scott @'d in Morrissey's official Twitter which hasn't been used for about 2 years - so he's not up on Morrissey's social media situation.

The bullying accusation is based on Central & the behaviour of "crazed fans" - none of which needs to involve Morrissey.

Crazed fans who seize and hang upon every word Morrissey carefully and deliberately says.
It's like Trump denying any responsibility for the behaviour of The Proud Boys and those other clowns storming the White House

 

[Ryan]

I think the best thing to keep in mind is that old demos and rare tracks from decades ago are still leaking all the time. I doubt it will be long for this thing to leak by someone anonymously.

 

[Anonomous]

We do not know that she had nothing to do with it?
Very likely that a lot more went down than what his (unprofessional) ex manager put on Twitter.
There's even a 9 month gap between the emails he posted.
And he uses an email from a Columbia executive saying that they won't allow Miley to be credited, as evidence that M didn't respect Miley's wish as he said he would?

Morrissey seems completely unaware at that point that Columbia was the issue (and we don't even know that it was then)

You’re clearly a blithering idiot to even remotely condone for any reason targeting the CEO of Capitol records like a 2 bit thug! Only on so low can we dig up people like you.