Myles Hendrik Instagram: Morrissey, Guy Oseary and Andrew Watt photo (June 17, 2024)

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It's like these people have never heard of rock stars, bun bun!

I think there’s been some confusion. Just because I perceive a certain “rich elder gay look” with open shirts and lots of jewelry doesn’t mean that anyone who wears an open shirt and lots of jewelry is a rich elder gay. Or a rock star, for that matter.
 
I didn’t say that he didn’t genuinely want to go; when was the last time that we know of that Morrissey did something that he didn’t genuinely want to do? I said that since he receives these invites I don’t see why he shouldn’t go, and in addition to wanting to go, there is possibly some professional benefit to him being there. He could get these connections through Watt as you said, but he’s there with Watt. With what? With Watt! Morrissey, as a man who works within the music industry, could find much more wasteful ways of spending his evening than sitting in a room with a group of people who work in or have connections within the music industry. I’m not suggesting he’s going to start working with someone like Finneas although a younger producer rejuvenating the career of an older artist isn’t unprecedented (Rick Rubin/Johnny Cash). Sometimes it’s good just to get your face seen and shake a few hands and remind people that you’re alive. It’s called hobnobbing, Audrey!

As long as we agree he’s there of his own volition, then that’s sufficient for me. When I said he could get producer connections through Watt, I meant that meeting Watt at the party was unnecessary. He could just call up Watt and say, “Andrew, could you kindly get me in touch with [whomever]? Please tell him I loved his work on that Katy Perry single.”
 
As long as we agree he’s there of his own volition, then that’s sufficient for me.
Yes. He wasn’t gagged, blindfolded and brought by force to the party. Lol.
When I said he could get producer connections through Watt, I meant that meeting Watt at the party was unnecessary. He could just call up Watt and say, “Andrew, could you kindly get me in touch with [whomever]? Please tell him I loved his work on that Katy Perry single.”
Btw, why is it that you don’t like seeing him at
a party of what looks to be mostly younger people simply being young. Are you afraid he
may somehow be changed for the worse after attending?
 
Yes. He wasn’t gagged, blindfolded and brought by force to the party. Lol.

Good catch. What I meant was, he was there for the party itself by his own choice, not because he endured it in order to meet a producer or executive. Actually I’m not sure which would be worse on its own: partying with idiot youth, or “schmoozing” and playing the industry game.

Btw, why is it that you don’t like seeing him at
a party of what looks to be mostly younger people simply being young. Are you afraid he
may somehow be changed for the worse after attending?

I guess it’s a personal, intuitive thing. We all have different conceptions of him, and we’re all probably guilty of making him in our own image to some extent. I always felt like Morrissey was naturally removed from vapid party people. I don’t think he should never enjoy himself or anything. Like I said earlier in the thread, the friendships he was making and his Los Angeles scene from 20-25 yrs ago (combining the romance, history, and decadence of Hollywood) seems totally different from this. This isn’t decadent or interesting to me. It’s just goofy, soulless hedonism.
 
Remember Morrissey reading Le Petit Prince in the video for Suedehead? Well. Charlotte Lawrence has a Le Petit Prince tattoo - a snake that has swallowed an elephant so it looks like a hat (but in the novel it's really a test to see if the grown-ups are as imaginative as a child).
 
Good catch. What I meant was, he was there for the party itself by his own choice, not because he endured it in order to meet a producer or executive. Actually I’m not sure which would be worse on its own: partying with idiot youth, or “schmoozing” and playing the industry game.
still don’t understand why either of those are evil to you. If those are his reasons, then I hope he’s there for both. The first, could be out of curiosity, and the second, because it’s not such a bad thing showing record industry types that you do go out and seem normal enough to do business with.
I guess it’s a personal, intuitive thing. We all have different conceptions of him, and we’re all probably guilty of making him in our own image to some extent.
Yeah, that’s really the problem here. It’s not about him, it’s about your idea of him (and others) and that conflicts with the reality of him. Which of course can only be speculated upon.

I always felt like Morrissey was naturally removed from vapid party people. I don’t think he should never enjoy himself or anything. Like I said earlier in the thread, the friendships he was making and his Los Angeles scene from 20-25 yrs ago (combining the romance, history, and decadence of Hollywood) seems totally different from this.
Good! it should. People travel, people change,
they make efforts to not be narrow minded, and try to understand that the world is full of all different sorts. Why close oneself from that, and not experience what life throws at you?
This isn’t decadent or interesting to me. It’s just goofy, soulless hedonism.

soak it all in. As an artist, it’s all just… grist for the mill.


Charlotte Lawrence has a Le Petit Prince tattoo - a snake that has swallowed an elephant so it looks like a hat (but in the novel it's really a test to see if the grown-ups are as imaginative as a child).

definitely not the behavior of a shallow, goofy, or soulless person to me. That’s beautiful.
 
He is fishing for a record label. These are the people who hold the power. A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

Record label executives can’t take meetings in offices or bars? Doesn’t he have a new manager who can network for him? If they’re not taking his calls to the extent that he has to sink this low just to get near them, then the fate of his unreleased albums is worse than I thought.
Maybe he just wanted to party hardy.
 
I've had this song from the birthday girl on a playlist since 2020. She could definitely replace Miley's vocals on Veronica. Hope she uses some footage from the party in a future video too!


Noooo no no. Miley's voice has a million more flavors than this.

I listened to this song for 45 seconds and couldn't do it any longer.
 
Noooo no no. Miley's voice has a million more flavors than this.

I listened to this song for 45 seconds and couldn't do it any longer.
We're only talking about backing vocals anyway - from what we've heard live, they were barely audible and nothing like a duet. I vote for someone who socialises with Morrissey and who is on good terms with the producer!
 
We're only talking about backing vocals anyway - from what we've heard live, they were barely audible and nothing like a duet. I vote for someone who socialises with Morrissey and who is on good terms with the producer!
Thing is when played live it would vary. Sometimes you could hear MC a bit more in the mix, like they were teasing us. And there was always the hope she would actually appear in person one day - bit like when KY would appear. I miss the song, it was so upbeat. Great when Gustavo wheeled out the harmonica for the end, was hoping M would someday get to do his yodeling along with it too.
Sadly that vision was snatched away, so yes hopefully future collaborators will stay on board and not sink the whole song... again.
 
Attending a party with the producer of the 3rd most listened to artist in the western world is a better use of his time than sitting around looking at the television in a 5* hotel room

That's debatable and depends entirely on the quality of the programme. What channels has he got?

He is fishing for a record label. These are the people who hold the power. A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

If he really wanted a contract he'd wear a corset like the othet girls. Why be only half-slutty about it?
And hasn't he learnt any moves from his bestie Miley C.?
"Look, you take off your trousers, you lie on the floor, you move your hips like this, I guarantee you'll get label attention in no time at all."



I don’t think he should never enjoy himself or anything.
Why not? I do!


(NB: still don't know who any of these people are.)
 
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I think there’s been some confusion. Just because I perceive a certain “rich elder gay look” with open shirts and lots of jewelry doesn’t mean that anyone who wears an open shirt and lots of jewelry is a rich elder gay. Or a rock star, for that matter.
I think you just like the way "elder gay" rolls off the tongue. So if its a choice between saying elder gay and saying rock star, you'll choose elder gay every time (so long as the person in question is gay). We can all read you like a book, audrey!
 
This photo of Morrissey with two men at a party with scantily clad young women grows on me. I’d like a sip from that champagne bottle being held out toward the camera.
 
I think you just like the way "elder gay" rolls off the tongue. So if its a choice between saying elder gay and saying rock star, you'll choose elder gay every time (so long as the person in question is gay). We can all read you like a book, audrey!

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Is it possible you have me confused with someone else on this thread? I didn't even come up with the term "rich elder gay look," someone else did. I agree with the assessment, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Morrissey's presentation is much, much better than the Axl Rose, Johnny Depp, or Steven Tyler thing. They look utterly clownish. If Morrissey was dressed like a "rock star," this would be ten times as bad. But he looks to me, as Vesper Nocturne well put it, nicely "louche." As I said in some earlier post, "even the rich elder gay look can't save" what I consider the problem here.
 
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Is it possible you have me confused with someone else on this thread? I didn't even come up with the term "rich elder gay look," someone else did. I agree with the assessment, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Morrissey's presentation is much, much better than the Axl Rose, Johnny Depp, or Steven Tyler thing. They look utterly clownish. If Morrissey was dressed like a "rock star," this would be ten times as bad. But he looks to me, as Vesper Nocturne well put it, nicely "louche." As I said in some earlier post, "even the rich elder gay look can't save" what I consider the problem here.
It's possible! I only read a handful of posts in each thread before making comments, audrey! Also I've got half of the thread on ignore! Not you, though, obviously! Lucky boy!
 
This photo of Morrissey with two men at a party with scantily clad young women grows on me. I’d like a sip from that champagne bottle being held out toward the camera.

Really? Ew. When I look at picture 5 of the series above, I'm rather glad nobody I know is drunk at that party.
 
How does he not look like a rock star? :confused:

Maybe it's the clean shave and the short silver hair? Not something I usually associate with rock star iconography. It's typically a long mane. I look at Morrissey in that picture and I can't really picture him making the devil horn hand gesture to the sound of power chords with pyrotechnics in the background.

Some see a rich elder gay look here, others are seeing a mid-life crisis look, and others are seeing a rock star look. It seems to be something of a Rorschach test.
 

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