Morrissey acquired rights to Bonfire of Teenagers?

It's not that terrible, Phranc, where I am. My security makes sure I'm ok. I do take it your view of "the terrible things going on" is from abroad. Hopefully, your country will not go this route, but who knows...
Well, we have been down that road before and 'boy can I tell you, it's a long way back.
My friend (absolute lover of England) was in Leeds and the surrounding area with his child and wife in June, also at the anniversary concert of Shed 7 etc. and it just goes down his spine when people chase through the street shouting "A foreigner, kill him". It literally hurts him to see such (perhaps only isolated) calls. I would have been really interested in Morrissey's opinion on all this, as he also likes to pour fuel to the fire, but then he'd be the first away, because he's that type.
 
I wondered whether that's exactly what he meant by the 'dangerous places' he referred to on the opening night in Las Vegas.

I think it could be construed as a call to arms.

What else was it he said?

'Get up, get out, get involved'

I think it might have been his way of saying something about the situation in England, without directly saying it.

I imagine he, management (or both) have decided it is wise to be quite selective about what is said and when.

(He then followed his opening words immediately by singing Bigmouth Strikes Again..... )
Can it be permanent to only be allowed to make innuendos when you want to open your mouth wide?
 
The really sad thing about current events in England is that the UK is rapidly heading towards becoming a police state. I have always loved the Hans Christian Andersen folktale of the Emperor's New Clothes. We are approaching the time where anyone pointing out reality - that the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes - will be labelled 'far right' and silenced.
 
Well, we have been down that road before and 'boy can I tell you, it's a long way back.
My friend (absolute lover of England) was in Leeds and the surrounding area with his child and wife in June, also at the anniversary concert of Shed 7 etc. and it just goes down his spine when people chase through the street shouting "A foreigner, kill him". It literally hurts him to see such (perhaps only isolated) calls. I would have been really interested in Morrissey's opinion on all this, as he also likes to pour fuel to the fire, but then he'd be the first away, because he's that type.

Sorry to hear about your friend's experience. Isolated occurrence of not, there are groups of people on opposing sides who are capable of targeting an individual they dislike/hate. Also, targeting specific buildings. I don't know where we're headed but it looks like once it's really started, normality may not be resumed for a while...and that's very worrying. Very worrying. Personally, I'm not interested in M's opinion.
 
The album (at the time in '21) was born out of bereavement and covid more than politics perhaps?
3 tracks are clearly aimed as singles (Veronica, Telephone, Rebels) and are tame to say the least.
1 track re: a 7 year old event more personal to him re: Manchester (BOT).
1 track circa 2017 if it's the Boz-written Dors song.
3 tracks death-related or Mother-inspired (Funeral, Saint, Oblivion).
1 track that, well... Let's just leave it there (Kerouac's...)
2 fully unknowns (Ha Ha and I Ex-Love You).

So, really only 1/11 that addresses anything super contentious?
Regards,
FWD.
 
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With all due respect, it's the title track of the record, which gives the whole thing more weight. He could have called the record "Diana Dors" or "Elegy for my mother". It is a personal concern for him and at the same time a very heavy burden in commercial terms.
 
Well, we have been down that road before and 'boy can I tell you, it's a long way back.
My friend (absolute lover of England) was in Leeds and the surrounding area with his child and wife in June, also at the anniversary concert of Shed 7 etc. and it just goes down his spine when people chase through the street shouting "A foreigner, kill him". It literally hurts him to see such (perhaps only isolated) calls. I would have been really interested in Morrissey's opinion on all this, as he also likes to pour fuel to the fire, but then he'd be the first away, because he's that type.
If that did happen, that is indeed barbaric behaviour. As it is also barbaric behaviour for gangs of Muslim men to hunt down and attack non-Muslims. It should also 'hurt' anyone, surely, to see a black 17 year old target little white girls in an unprovoked attack and butcher them with a knife? Or to see hundreds of white teenage girls raped and sexually abused across those same towns where people are now rioting? Or did we all forget that connection with these towns? And is outrage limited to one 'community' only?
The fabric of society tearing apart and the risk of race riots and ethnic communal violence - I wonder who warned that mass immigration might lead to this? I wonder who warned that communities and countries are actually fragile ecosystems, developed over centuries, and we mess with them at our peril? I thought diversity makes a society stronger? The 'experiment' isn't really working, is it? Unless the 'experiment' of mass immigration has a very different objective altogether?
 
The album (at the time in '21) was born out of bereavement and covid more than politics perhaps?
3 tracks are clearly aimed as singles (Veronica, Telephone, Rebels) and are tame to say the least.
1 track re: a 7 year old event more personal to him re: Manchester (BOT).
1 track circa 2017 if it's the Boz-written Dors song.
3 tracks death-related or Mother-inspired (Funeral, Saint, Oblivion).
1 track that, well... Let's just leave it there (Kerouac's...)
2 fully unknowns (Ha Ha and I Ex-Love You).

So, really only 1/11 that addresses anything super contentious?
Regards,
FWD.
Jokes about Kerouac's Crack aside, I think what you say is very true. Loss and lock downs. But I do think both Bonfire and Without Music also speak to Morrissey's sense of truths needing to be told - realities older than America - rather than lies and narrative spinning.
 
Well, we have been down that road before and 'boy can I tell you, it's a long way back.
My friend (absolute lover of England) was in Leeds and the surrounding area with his child and wife in June, also at the anniversary concert of Shed 7 etc. and it just goes down his spine when people chase through the street shouting "A foreigner, kill him". It literally hurts him to see such (perhaps only isolated) calls. I would have been really interested in Morrissey's opinion on all this, as he also likes to pour fuel to the fire, but then he'd be the first away, because he's that type.
totally agree,its a sad day when someone cant wander down the street.
 
im very surprised that theres been no rioting in scotland,then again we are a very placid nation,too wet to start a riot for starters.
rioters to the left,police to the right,heavy rain comes on and everybody goes home,thats how a riot happens up here.
 
If that did happen, that is indeed barbaric behaviour. As it is also barbaric behaviour for gangs of Muslim men to hunt down and attack non-Muslims. It should also 'hurt' anyone, surely, to see a black 17 year old target little white girls in an unprovoked attack and butcher them with a knife? Or to see hundreds of white teenage girls raped and sexually abused across those same towns where people are now rioting? Or did we all forget that connection with these towns? And is outrage limited to one 'community' only?
The fabric of society tearing apart and the risk of race riots and ethnic communal violence - I wonder who warned that mass immigration might lead to this? I wonder who warned that communities and countries are actually fragile ecosystems, developed over centuries, and we mess with them at our peril? I thought diversity makes a society stronger? The 'experiment' isn't really working, is it? Unless the 'experiment' of mass immigration has a very different objective altogether?
It's the same "general" feeling here. But people like to ignore the fact, that there are also plenty of local rapists and murderers. Demographic change makes people feel uncomfortable. The environment is changing and individual acts of violence by foreigners are more indefensible than those committed by our own people. It really is too easy. European prosperity (and I include you English) is also based on the costs of much poorer countries. But when they want a slice of the cake, things get uncomfortable. We Germans hardly had any men left after the Second World War. In the 60s, Italians, Yugoslavs and Turks were brought in as skilled workers. Generations later, their children (especially the Turks) take the best of both worlds and we complain. Come to terms with the fact that you can't close yourself off or just abuse people as cheap labor without personal needs. This is all much more complex than judging it with simple slogans from a safe distance, as the protagonist of this website has done in the case of BOT and Notre-Dame.
 
It's the same "general" feeling here. But people like to ignore the fact, that there are also plenty of local rapists and murderers. Demographic change makes people feel uncomfortable. The environment is changing and individual acts of violence by foreigners are more indefensible than those committed by our own people. It really is too easy. European prosperity (and I include you English) is also based on the costs of much poorer countries. But when they want a slice of the cake, things get uncomfortable. We Germans hardly had any men left after the Second World War. In the 60s, Italians, Yugoslavs and Turks were brought in as skilled workers. Generations later, their children (especially the Turks) take the best of both worlds and we complain. Come to terms with the fact that you can't close yourself off or just abuse people as cheap labor without personal needs. This is all much more complex than judging it with simple slogans from a safe distance, as the protagonist of this website has done in the case of BOT and Notre-Dame.
Ditch your European guilt. There is really no need for it...

 
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