Morrissey Central "MANAGEMENT" (September 19, 2024)

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Morrissey has severed all connections with Red Light Management/Pete Galli Management.



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And yet the UK wasn't included in the licensing agreement.

Are the books of Douglas Murray and Ayaan Hirsi Ali not licensed for distribution in the UK or something? For your theory to hold up, if Morrissey can’t get past the “ woke” gatekeepers, then nobody else should be able to.
 
Again, I think that's nostalgia talking to some extent.

If Morrissey were releasing the Southpaw Grammar album now with only 8 songs and such repetitive lyrics, there is no way that anybody would be describing it as "poet Moz".
it’s not nostalgia, but i understand where the disparity is now:

1: it’s not about the quality or repetition of the lyrics, per say, it’s about who he is (or who he views himself to be), what his goals are for the lyrics and how they are being communicated — again, the true shift occurred the Wilderness years.

2: if we did use your standard above, there is zero question that Maladjusted Moz is still Poet Moz and Southpaw is nothing more than an artist attempting something different.
 
Are the books of Douglas Murray and Ayaan Hirsi Ali not licensed for distribution in the UK or something? For your theory to hold up, if Morrissey can’t get past the “ woke” gatekeepers, then nobody else should be able to.
Neither of those 2 people would be seen on mainstream TV in the UK. Douglas was allowed on in the past - but for at least the last 5 years has not to be seen. The Overton window is closing ever smaller every year.
And Mr Murray was already working as a journalist and author when he published his more 'controversial' books. Good luck being an aspiring writer looking for a publishing deal for a book about mass immigration.
 
Are the books of Douglas Murray and Ayaan Hirsi Ali not licensed for distribution in the UK or something? For your theory to hold up, if Morrissey can’t get past the “ woke” gatekeepers, then nobody else should be able to.

Yes, they are widely available. Douglas Murray also regularly writes for the politically conservative and influential magazine The Spectator. He made a recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, which is one of the most popular podcasts in existence. It's so mainstream that Joe Rogan signed an exclusivity deal with Spotify to the tune of $250 million dollars.

It's worth noting that he currently lives in New York.

Ayaan Hirsi just isn't that well known in the UK any more (nor is Douglas Murray for that matter), although she did make a number of appearances on the BBC with her criticisms of Islam etc. Ask the average British person who she is and they'll have no idea. She's only popular on the fringes of the political right.

There are people in the UK who are openly more right-wing than Morrissey, and have publicly made statements that gashonthenail would consider statements that would be deemed "controversial" by the "establishment", the "woke", the "elites", and yet these people enjoy or have enjoyed successful careers, in and outside of politics.

It's got nothing to do with BoT being "controversial", because it really isn't, as much as people pretend it is. Millions of people were rightly angry over the Manchester terrorist attack, regardless of their political leanings. It's just shit music from a man who is way past his best and has no real relevance any more. I understand it's much easier to conjure conspiracy theories than admit that our favourite singer just isn't that good any more, but that's the way it is. If Morrissey wants to get airplay he just needs to write songs that people will actually listen to and buy (e.g. Spent the Day in Bed, a nice poppy track, got airplay on British radio).

He doesn't even need to be that pleasant. Liam Gallagher is widely known as a bit of a dickhead, yet thousands upon thousands of people go see him play live music with absolutely no qualms and no one cares. In the 1970s Eric Clapton said to a concert audience that England had "become overcrowded" and that they should vote for Enoch Powell to stop Britain from becoming "a black colony". He also told the audience that Britain should "get the foreigners out, get the wogs out, get the coons out", and then he repeatedly shouted the National Front slogan "Keep Britain White". And yet, Eric Clapton did a UK tour this year, playing at large venues, including the Co-op Arena in Manchester, because people actually want to listen to his music.
 
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If Bonfire ever does get released - no doubt it will be hard to find in some stores...



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To add, not all of the niche history books I read are widely available at brick and mortar book stores (I have to order them in), but you don't see loads of historians crying about it. In fact, the blog you've linked debunked the conspiracy you're trying to propagate.
 
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Kanye West is more famous and more controversial than Morrissey, and he was dropped from his label for his political views. It was widely decided that he was deranged and a pariah in the music industry and his career was over. Then he made his own label and released an album that came in at no. 1 with a no. 1 single. Looking it up, it went to no. 2 in the UK. No one is being “gagged” or “silenced” if Kanye West can have hits.
 
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Kanye West is more famous and more controversial than Morrissey, and he was dropped from his label for his political views. It was widely decided that he was deranged and a pariah in the music industry and his career was over. Then he made his own label and released an album that came in at no. 1 with a no. 1 single. Looking it up, it went to no. 2 in the UK. No one is being “gagged” or “silenced” if Kanye West can have hits.
Agreed. He should release it himself. It would sell well with all the free publicity it has had.
 
Those are all online stores you link to. There have been several stories of librarians and book shop staff shadow banning 'controversial' titles. And the actions of Merseyrail re posters for California Son speak volumes about how Bonfire might get treated if it ever sees the light of day.
 
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Agreed. He should release it himself. It would sell well with all the free publicity it has had.

Right. As long as we agree that Morrissey is perfectly allowed to say the things he says. There are independent labels that would sign him and publications that will interview him. If he’s holding out because he insists on having a fancy label over the music being released, then the problem is him.

Maybe he wants the money and status of a major label. That is his right. We used to call that sellout/diva behavior, though, and complaining about being “silenced” reveals a profound sense of entitlement.
 
Kanye West is more famous and more controversial than Morrissey, and he was dropped from his label for his political views. It was widely decided that he was deranged and a pariah in the music industry and his career was over. Then he made his own label and released an album that came in at no. 1 with a no. 1 single. Looking it up, it went to no. 2 in the UK. No one is being “gagged” or “silenced” if Kanye West can have hits.

To be fair, Kanye was doing a lot more than saying stuff people didn't like, his actions towards lots of people including his own family was extreme
 
To be fair, Kanye was doing a lot more than saying stuff people didn't like, his actions towards lots of people including his own family was extreme

Yes, there is really no metric where Kanye West is less controversial than Morrissey. That underscores the point. Kanye West released a hit record in spite of everything against him. Morrissey cannot complain.
 
Those are all online stores you link to. There have been several stories of librarians and book shop staff shadow banning 'controversial' titles. And the actions of Merseyrail re posters for California Son speak volumes about how Bonfire might get treated if it ever sees the light of day.

Seems you missed this.

"To add, not all of the niche history books I read are widely available at brick and mortar book stores (I have to order them in), but you don't see loads of historians crying about it. In fact, the blog you've linked debunked the conspiracy you're trying to propagate."


Also, the links I provided prove my point. The books are widely available via the most popular bookstores (Amazon, Waterstones, Blackwell's). For Waterstones and Blackwell's, you can simply order the book for pickup in store, and they'll have it there for you. But of course, that debunks the conspiracy theory of bookstores not stocking the books you wish to buy.
 
Seems you missed this.

"To add, not all of the niche history books I read are widely available at brick and mortar book stores (I have to order them in), but you don't see loads of historians crying about it. In fact, the blog you've linked debunked the conspiracy you're trying to propagate."


Also, the links I provided prove my point. The books are widely available via the most popular bookstores (Amazon, Waterstones, Blackwell's). For Waterstones and Blackwell's, you can simply order the book for pickup in store, and they'll have it there for you. But of course, that debunks the conspiracy theory of bookstores not stocking the books you wish to buy.
I can't imagine the big chains are keen to admit that their staff 'censor' what customers can order or buy. Pretty much all work places are woke in 2o24, due to DEI-promoting HR policies.

 
Seems you missed this.

"To add, not all of the niche history books I read are widely available at brick and mortar book stores (I have to order them in), but you don't see loads of historians crying about it. In fact, the blog you've linked debunked the conspiracy you're trying to propagate."


Also, the links I provided prove my point. The books are widely available via the most popular bookstores (Amazon, Waterstones, Blackwell's). For Waterstones and Blackwell's, you can simply order the book for pickup in store, and they'll have it there for you. But of course, that debunks the conspiracy theory of bookstores not stocking the books you wish to buy.
As someone who works in the industry, it is 100% the case that Waterstones have discreetly declined to stock or display several "gender critical" books in the last few years. Of course customers can go in and order them, or order them online, but it is still a type of censorship in terms of which books get displayed and plugged. (Also, of course, fair to argue that Waterstones are within their rights to do this, if they deem their customer base leans more the other way...)
 
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