"Kiss Me A Lot" official video directed by Sam Esty Rayner - TTY

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As I read the name Sam Esty Rayner I feared the worst ... and what can I say ... it's even worse than I'd imagined. The boy knows nothing (unfortunately). Watch for yourself ...


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I don't think morrissey thinks of anything but lavender tea and coronation street
 
I hope your chill pill has relaxed you. It's interesting that some can see this video as an 'embarrassing blip' whilst others see it as an apocalyptic revelation. I hope you enjoyed reading the 400 comments. I find it all *fascinating*

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And some of us don't give a shit, just been listening to Kiss Me A Lot on my evening run, will I be at a gig on his next UK tour, yes I will. What do I think of the video, it's not very good, does it change my enjoyment of listening to Morrissey, No
 
The writing on the Women's bodies remind me of the Femen activists. FEMEN
I think the comment is clear at the end when it says "Kiss me a lot" on the blonde's ass telling the viewers to kiss her ass. No, I cannot agree with BB here.

You are clutching at straws and clearly know very little about FEMEN. They were severely criticised by orthodox feminists when it emerged that their initial activism was orchestrated and planned by a man. The idea that they would endorse a music video concocted by a multi-millionaire middle-age man and his nephew as congruent with their idealism is magical thinking. I am enjoying reading the contortions of the Cult Of Morrissey as they desperately try to find any possible excuse for this meretricious video from Morrissey.

Once, we accepted a man like Svyatski taking control of us. But Femen is now a group where women follow their own ideas



http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/victory-svyatski-femen-man


I wonder what Kristeen Young makes of this video?


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Re: Article: "Kiss Me A Lot" official video directed by Sam Esty Rayner - TTY

"status and standing on this forum"
Sorry my majesty

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Have you seen some of the posts on this forum.
I'm not saying all of us want to but there is more that a few
Just the morrissey frink thread is a indication

This is an interesting point. If Morrissey has only pursued the fink thread on this site or spends too much time there, he may well have fallen into some catastrophic delusion that he is still a sex symbol. Perhaps this is why he hired nubile young models in lingerie for this video? Does he think they represent those who post to the fink thread? He would be well advised to peruse the Member's Photos thread to disabuse himself of this particularly florid fantasy if that is indeed the rationale behind this video.

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And some of us don't give a shit, just been listening to Kiss Me A Lot on my evening run, will I be at a gig on his next UK tour, yes I will. What do I think of the video, it's not very good, does it change my enjoyment of listening to Morrissey, No

This is a perfectly understandable reaction to events. You are now free to leave this thread and never return. Thank you for sharing your views before leaving. Goodbye.

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We will see, if Sam gets any future work that does not include his uncle, c-lister or some awful up and coming artist.
Ps you can call me a loon back ;)
I won't mind it as much as you do.
:straightface:

Sam's portfolio consists of half naked, bored looking B-list models while Jake's work has featured the likes of Benedict Cumberbatch and been in Vogue. The difference? Jake has talent.
Maybe Sam should use the allowance uncle Steven gives him and go back to school.
 
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This is an interesting point. If Morrissey has only pursued the fink thread on this site or spends too much time there, he may well have fallen into some catastrophic delusion that he is still a sex symbol. Perhaps this is why he hired nubile young models in lingerie for this video? Does he think they represent those who post to the fink thread? He would be well advised to peruse the Member's Photos thread to disabuse himself of this particularly florid fantasy if that is indeed the rationale behind this video.

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This is a perfectly understandable reaction to events. You are now free to leave this thread and never return. Thank you for sharing your views before leaving. Goodbye.

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I do not think morrissey have ever seen the frink thread
 
So what??? he wanted women who look like that in the video, if he had plus size women instead, that would be his fantasy landscape of women but that would be ok? that is very shallow of you.

I'm not sure what you are trying to convey. If the women he used as ornamentation had been diverse and included women of his own age, the video would not have given a creepy impression that it was a greying, balding middle-aged man purchasing young female flesh to distract attention from himself. If his fantasy landscape of women is purely populated by lingerie clad models then that's either because he is able to purchase their company or exploit his fame to attract their sexual attention. If he was walking around the mall in jeans and a sweat-shirt I think it's extremely unlikely women would disrobe and scrawl lipstick on their bare bodies to try and get him to kiss them. If Morrissey has a fantasy about plus size women then he can do a cover version of "All About That Bass". Nothing would surprise me at this stage. However, he might find that Meghan Traynor isn't into 'skinny bitches' like Morrissey. Meghan sadly also has body shaming issues.

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Are you commenting on my post? Please read it again. I think you've missed my point.

Given that I quoted you directly, it's quite likely that I was commenting on your post, isn't it? I did not miss your point. You were claiming that Morrissey was obliquely referencing FEMEN but they have explicitly rejected the idea that their ideology or tactics can be appropriated by men. You may find it useful to read replies with some rigour before assuming you understand the content.

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I'm not sure what you are trying to convey. If the women he used as ornamentation had been diverse and included women of his own age, the video would not have given a creepy impression that it was a greying, balding middle-aged man purchasing young female flesh to distract attention from himself. If his fantasy landscape of women is purely populated by lingerie clad models then that's either because he is able to purchase their company or exploit his fame to attract their sexual attention. If he was walking around the mall in jeans and a sweat-shirt I think it's extremely unlikely women would disrobe and scrawl lipstick on their bare bodies to try and get him to kiss them. If Morrissey has a fantasy about plus size women then he can do a cover version of "All About That Bass". Nothing would surprise me at this stage. However, he might find that Meghan Traynor isn't into 'skinny bitches' like Morrissey. Meghan sadly also has body shaming issues.

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Why is it so hard to understand that he put these models in his video because Sam suggested it and he thought it would appeal to the young crowd?

Sex sells. If he wanted to be with a model he would be.
 
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I do not think morrissey have ever seen the frink thread

I've no idea and couldn't care less. Even if he has seen it, it doesn't provide an excuse for his sexism. If he hasn't seen it, his sexism is just as problematic.

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I guess you are a man. I am not distracted by the "female flesh" as you call the women condescendingly. Please keep in mind that women perceive the world differently than men. Be a bit more sophisticated, please. Thank you.

I am indeed a cis male. It is Morrissey who has reduced these women to 'female flesh' by employing them to scrawl his absurd lyrics on. Some women see the world differently to some men. You do not speak on behalf of all women so please spare me any more of your trite Gender Essentialism. I'm sorry if that is a shocking revelation to you. It's hard to provide sophisticated responses to sophists who troll feminism to try and score points. Your Femsplaining attempt to derail my entirely valid points have failed.

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Sorry, but it seems you still don't understand. You are not referring to what i was saying. Please read the posts of women more carefully. Thank you.

You are not saying anything of substance and certainly nothing that requires any further debunking. You are attempting to divert me with your spurious sophistry. There is no evidence to support your claim that Morrissey's video is an echo, or in support of FEMEN tactics and body grafitti. It is no such thing. It is a gratuitously sexist re-hash of MTV tropes. FEMEN have specifically excluded male control and appropriation of their modus operandi. Please read the posts of women more carefully, specifically those of FEMEN.

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Over 400 comments later, this nutty thread is still going strong. Chill pill time…

The song is catchy, if throwaway, Morrissey. It deserves some airplay this summer.
Video is bad but will only be a slightly embarrassing blip in years to come. (Moz looks good in it, at least).

it's a nutty thread because it was a nutty video to present to the public. i do, however, agree with the rest of your post. in the long view it may not even rise to a blip.
 
Brummie, it is most likely that the women were compleatley sams idea, since it goes with his previous work. It is most likely that Sam said it was morrissey concept to not be blamed.

I'm pretty sure that morrissey did not know about the ladies until the final results appeared, and decided that is nephew could go forth with his video since he did not what to hurt his feelings or something similar
I do not think your theory is correct about these ladies being his fantasy landscape or his trying to be a mans man .
 
Re: Article: "Kiss Me A Lot" official video directed by Sam Esty Rayner - TTY

This is an interesting point. If Morrissey has only pursued the fink thread on this site or spends too much time there, he may well have fallen into some catastrophic delusion that he is still a sex symbol. Perhaps this is why he hired nubile young models in lingerie for this video? Does he think they represent those who post to the fink thread? He would be well advised to peruse the Member's Photos thread to disabuse himself of this particularly florid fantasy if that is indeed the rationale behind this video.

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This is a perfectly understandable reaction to events. You are now free to leave this thread and never return. Thank you for sharing your views before leaving. Goodbye.

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Thanks for your advice Brummie but the only person who can tell me what I should do, is my wife.

Nice to see you are still playing your little games with unsuspecting responders.
 
I made the mistake of reading over 300 posts first, so now I am dreading watching this video. And yet I must; I'm scared; someone hold me!

lynnda

Are you ok ? Only we've not heard any feedback yet and that's worrying you always have a way of making things ok.
 
So, after reading hundreds and hundreds of comments, I 've finally watched the video and it's obvious that many of you havve not connected with Sam's vision. Clearly the video is a deeply philosophical perspective of Morrissey's isolation as a talented, non-conformist lyricist, trying to exist in a vacuous, Kardashian culture that ignores a literary genious while systematically idolizing the likes of botoxed housewives; corporately contrived boy bands; and vapid, talentless media-whore celebrities who have attained fame by uttering mono-syllabic catchphrases like "that's hot" in some barely coherent "Hollywood speak".

Just look at the loneliness in Morrissey's eyes as he stands on the stage, longing, as he has for decades, for his words to connect with the audience on a deeper intellectual and emotional level, something that he has been told from the very beginning of his career would be an impossible goal to achieve. While he has always struggled to maintain some modicum of dignity and integrity, alas, there have been times when he has been forced to bend rather than break. Let's not forget that he was once the vision of youthful beauty with messages scrawled across his torso, allowing himself to be objectified with the hope that some of the gawkers would have a moment of epiphany and actually connect with the emotional revelations of his words.

But time is unkind to beautiful people and pop stars, and Morrissey's current dilema is trying to validate himself to prospective record companies who are likely to say "yes, he is phenomonally talented, but does anyone really care about that? How can we make a 55 year old poet relevant to today's audience... casual dug use, gratuitous sexual imagery, frivolous pop videos... how about all of the above?"

Don't blame Morrissey or Sam for illuminating the flaws of a social media driven world; blame yourselves for applauding, or at least complacently accepting, the lowest common denominator of entertainment and mass marketing. Unfortunately, Sam's message will soar over the head's of the masses. He would be best advised to re-shoot this video using very cute cats. A grumpy-looking, older cat could be used to symbolize Morrissey's isolated, disillusioned existence as it watches other happy, 'normal' cat couples expressing acceptance and affection as they lick each other's faces to "Kiss Me A Lot".

lynnda
 
right you are. So please stop generalizing your personal way of seeing and apparent misrepresentation of other people's opinions. Your points do not pass the test as they are over the top and far-fetched.

That's your opinion. I do not have to pass any test of yours to express my opinion. FAIL!

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I repeat: Please read my posts more carefully. You don't want to understand it seems. i don't like people putting words in my mouth so that they can start a ill-constructed battle.

You do indeed repeat! Sadly you offer no further explanation for your assertion that Morrissey is either referencing FEMEN or that he has any right to do so given their explicit rejection of male appropriation of their ideas. If you are still struggling with this, please ask a friend to explain it to you. I am bored of your attempts at gaining attention by linking to me on this thread.

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