Johnny Marr responds to Morrissey's open letter via Twitter (January 26, 2022)

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I don't know about empty, but none of the Las Vegas residency shows sold out. I found that surprising, even in the middle of a pandemic. Capacity of the venue was only 4,100.

Yes, in the middle of a pandemic it really should have been packed full.

:rolleyes:
 
"I was at my parents house one Sunday evening, and my little brother had a guitar knocking about. I started to play some chords and quickly came up with this riff. I got very excited about it as I knew it was good. But I didn't have anything to record it on, so my girlfriend Angie, who's now my wife, ran around to her house and snuck her dad's car out. I got in the car with my guitar, playing the riff over and over again so I wouldn't forget it! We drove to Morrissey's. I got there, and I'm holding this guitar outside his door in the rain, unannounced. "Oh, hello," he says, "what have you got there?" I said: "A new song." "Well, you'd better come in then." So in I went, and Morrissey pulled out this tape recorder, and we recorded the music. Then I went home. He called me the next day and said, "That new song's called Hand In Glove." We would rehearse five nights a week in our manager's clothing warehouse. The minute we started to play the new song, I knew we'd gone to a new place, because of the melody and the riff, and also because the words and music were an exuberant celebration of both our lives. Friendship [...] was what had changed in his and my life. We had met each other, were working together, and we were in love with each other, in the best possible way. And Hand In Glove came out of that. The words sound like the music, and the music sounds like the words “ it's a beautiful thing. [...] Hand In Glove was our anthem."

- Johnny, dailymail.co.uk,
on the eve of the 30th anniversary of the release of debut single "Hand In Glove"
Now if the Press took their headlines from beautiful quotes like that, this current mess would never have happened. Say it again Johnny, say it louder, so he hears you.
 
All sold out breaking all time swag sales records:lbf:

LePep would be lucky to sell 41 tix:lbf::hammer:

Moz can't sell tickets like he used to. Sales were 20% down in 2018 for his 9 arena shows, and a further 20% down in 2020, even when he reduced his tour to 2 arena shows. Have you forgotten the unsold blocks and curtained off sections at Leeds already?
 
Moz can't sell tickets like he used to. Sales were 20% down in 2018 for his 9 arena shows, and a further 20% down in 2020, even when he reduced his tour to 2 arena shows. Have you forgotten the unsold blocks and curtained off sections at Leeds already?

And yet, many people still go to his shows and buy his records regardless. I wonder why that is.
 
Moz can't sell tickets like he used to. Sales were 20% down in 2018 for his 9 arena shows, and a further 20% down in 2020, even when he reduced his tour to 2 arena shows. Have you forgotten the unsold blocks and curtained off sections at Leeds already?

:lbf:
LEEDS SOLD OUT STANDING ROOM ONLY🥇
SOLD VEGAS RESIDENCY 💪
ALL TIME MERCHANDISE SALES SWAG RECORD🥇

when Killers sell out an upcoming USA show LePep will instantly post on his dumb
FB bot page: SOLD OUT SOLD OUT!!!! nobody in the venue can guess
who the funny looking dude is 🤾‍♂️
Americas shame, LePepe(n)

thats the tragedy know as SR and JR LePep 'music careers' 🧯


:hammer:
 
Moz is the King of Merch. It doesn't matter how many empty seats and blacked out areas there are, just look at the -T-Shirt sales!
 
Moz is the King of Merch. It doesn't matter how many empty seats and blacked out areas there are, just look at the -T-Shirt sales!
And yet you never see anyone wearing it. I bet they don't even buy stuff in their size.
 
The way I see it, Morrissey has nothing left to prove in his achievement filled solo career. Every extra show and album is now just icing on the cake for his fan base. It's truly amazing to think that even at this point in his professional life he is able to pull out incredible surprises like a Las Vegas residency at Caesars Palace, and before that, a Broadway residency at the Lunt-Fontanne Theatre. Johnny, on the other hand, is finishing out his music career in a lamentable state by offering up the same old stale stories about The Smiths and Morrissey, and more concerning, opening up for the likes of The Courteeners and now a 2022 version of Blondie(!?) This can't be how he would have pictured his music career going 35 years ago.
 
The way I see it, Morrissey has nothing left to prove in his achievement filled solo career. Every extra show and album is now just icing on the cake for his fan base. It's truly amazing to think that even at this point in his professional life he is able to pull out incredible surprises like a Las Vegas residency at Caesars Palace, and before that, a Broadway residency at the Lunt-Fontanne Theatre. Johnny, on the other hand, is finishing out his music career in a lamentable state by offering up the same old stale stories about The Smiths and Morrissey, and more concerning, opening up for the likes of The Courteeners and now a 2022 version of Blondie(!?) This can't be how he would have pictured his music career going 35 years ago.
Painting a rather rosy picture of Moz’ career aren’t you? He’s got - no label, no one wants to release his record, his website was nothing but an obituary section for celebrities of bygone days. He finally hit on the idea of writing about his old Smiths partner to raise his visibility, but giving it a twist, a monstrous lie about things Johnny actually never said. This is to get back at Marr for signing to the label that dumped Moz. How galling to hear Johnny’s guitar during the James Bond movie. How annoying it must have been to see Johnny’s face on the cover of a magazine instead of himself. How dare Johnny release a double album when he Moz is without a label home. Etc etc you get the drift. He hates it when his friends are successful.
 
Painting a rather rosy picture of Moz’ career aren’t you? He’s got - no label, no one wants to release his record, his website was nothing but an obituary section for celebrities of bygone days. He finally hit on the idea of writing about his old Smiths partner to raise his visibility, but giving it a twist, a monstrous lie about things Johnny actually never said. This is to get back at Marr for signing to the label that dumped Moz. How galling to hear Johnny’s guitar during the James Bond movie. How annoying it must have been to see Johnny’s face on the cover of a magazine instead of himself. How dare Johnny release a double album when he Moz is without a label home. Etc etc you get the drift. He hates it when his friends are successful.

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The way I see it, Morrissey has nothing left to prove in his achievement filled solo career. Every extra show and album is now just icing on the cake for his fan base. It's truly amazing to think that even at this point in his professional life he is able to pull out incredible surprises like a Las Vegas residency at Caesars Palace, and before that, a Broadway residency at the Lunt-Fontanne Theatre. Johnny, on the other hand, is finishing out his music career in a lamentable state by offering up the same old stale stories about The Smiths and Morrissey, and more concerning, opening up for the likes of The Courteeners and now a 2022 version of Blondie(!?) This can't be how he would have pictured his music career going 35 years ago.
If both of them had retired from music in 2013, I would agree with this - but they didn't.

Since then, Morrissey has driven his career and reputation into a brick wall at 100mph & become a hate figure in a way that has been devastating to witness. And Johnny - who had unquestionably lost the race until that point - found some drive, stopped sessioning and soared. It's a f***ing tragic state of affairs, really, but M only has himself to blame.
 
Is it the same reason why many people don't wipe their arses properly?

Well, they may be nervous, with you
standing there and watching.
 
but nowhere near as many as used to go see him regardless. I wonder why that is. That last arena tour had 20,000 tickets for sale - a big drop from 2018's 100,000 - and they couldn't shift those.

Yes, we wonder why that is.

It doesn’t matter, can’t you see?

Do you think that’s going to stop Morrissey from playing shows, if that is his choice? And as I already said, many people are still going to his shows and buying his records.
 
Moz > JFM in my world. That said...
My entry for what Johnny should have twatted back instead:
Well that sure escalated quickly @officialmoz. No problem, Steven from 40 years ago. I'll work harder on being a curmudgeon with attitude to interviewers whenever questioned about you.
 
It's no secret Angie was a problem Johnny couldn't handle, Johnny even admitted it was his marriage or the Smiths.
Tell you what, you're too silly, I'm going to let Johnny deal with you. Not saying you're a problem I can't handle, though. :LOL:

edit: oops, Johnny just texted he's going to totally ignore you too. :tears:


Lucky for Johnny, he made the right choice.

Luckily Morrissey never had to face that dilemma : having to choose between love and his career...
Imagine if Damon had made a scene: "I'm warning you Morrissey! It's me or that song about Paris! " :thumb:
 

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