GBN / Adam Chapman: "'Say what you want about Morrissey...he was right about Islamic terrorism in the UK' - Brendan O'Neill" (September 25, 2024)

'Say what you want about Morrissey...he was right about Islamic terrorism in the UK' - Brendan O'Neill

Excerpt:

The Spiked Political Editor tells GB News that Morrissey summed this up perfectly during a gig at the Palladium in London a few years back.
The former lead singer of The Smiths was introducing his new song at the time, ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’, which is about the Manchester Arena bombing in 2017.
Mr O'Neill, who was in the crowd that night, alleged Morrisey looked out at the audience and asked: "How come you know the name Myra Hindley but many of you won’t know the name of the man who bombed the Manchester Arena?"

It's such a good question. We all know Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. But if you went out on the streets and asked a hundred people to name Salman Abedi [the Manchester arena bomber] I bet they wouldn't be able to," the Spiked Political Editor said.
It's a striking observation given the asymmetry of the crimes and when they occurred: Abedi killed 22 people at the Ariana Grande concert in 2017 - and Brady and Hindley murdered five children more than 50 years ago.


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'Say what you want about Morrissey...he was right about Islamic terrorism in the UK' - Brendan O'Neill

Morrissey's comment about the Manchester Arena bomber rings just as true today, Spiked Political Editor tells GB News

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FWD.

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Related item:

• Spectator article by Brendan O'Neill: "Morrissey is the rock'n'roll rebel we need" - October 10, 2022

 

[Who Rattled Your Cage]

I must have been asleep for the long and inglorious history of the UK's institutions ignoring crimes & protecting the white, often monied perpetrators via 'lost' files, corruption, backhanders, intimidated victims and witnesses etc etc; even to the extent of delaying public inquires for decades until said perpetrators and their enablers are safe from legal and moral harm i.e. retired, abroad, or even deceased. All the while, I'm now apparently to understand, that self same establishment - which never truly changes, even over centuries - must have been secretly protecting...Asian groomers in the towns beyond Holy London; the very same towns, with the very same 'uncivilised' denizens, which the establishment and its helpful media traditionally ignores or despises except for outbreaks of patronisation or contempt (which is effectively the same thing).

'Funny' how we hear about the Muslim scum (scum cos they're child rapists, not because of their religion) raping kids in England, but rarely this one...

Scots cops took down huge asylum seeker grooming gang - but kept it secret

COPS took down a huge asylum seeker grooming gang in Glasgow – but kept it secret. The gang preyed on vulnerable young girls in the city, and had at least 44 victims, including a core group o…

www.thescottishsun.co.uk

 

[Grim Reaper]

We know the names of a lot of the people pulling the extremist strings, nobodies who blow these into even smaller bits of nobodies are not going to get the same household recognition of serial killers with faces remaining attached to their skulls.

 

[Seymour Glass]

Here's the simple truth...The media loves serial killers because they're usually white. They don't go into details about the identities of Muslim terrorists because that would be considered racist and "Islamaphobic".

 

[Seymour Glass]

Morrissey's hypocrisy is just utterly astounding.
He wrote a song about the Moors Murders then asks why do people know their names?
He wrote a song about the Krays, glamourizing them.
He wrote BOT and did not name 'the killer' who was already dead. Why didn't he name him and his accomplice who got life in prison?

Because nothing rhymes with Muhammad.

 

[gashonthenail]

No. Watson ridicules the vegan diet itself; he believes soy saps a man’s virility. He is just as much a lunatic and deserving of ridicule as any wacky ze/zer lefty you want to consider, because he believes in virtually all the crazy InfoWars conspiracy theories.

That's ridiculing soy consumption. Not being a vegan or vegetarian. Soy is an interesting food. Although several studies have found an effect on feminisation, a large meta-analysis didn't find that. But, like most things when it comes to human diet, studies are often problematic with regard to validity.

Neither soy nor isoflavone intake affects male reproductive hormones: An expanded and updated meta-analysis of clinical studies - PubMed

Concerns that the phytoestrogens (isoflavones) in soy may feminize men continue to be raised. Several studies and case-reports describing feminizing effects including lowering testosterone levels and raising estrogen levels in men have been published. For this reason, the clinical data were...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Benny-the-British-Butcher]

Absolutely awful song both musically and lyrically and now even visually.
Typical Quilloughby gimmick song formula to shock and gain media publicity and headlines.
He used to throw mud on the Royal Family for the same reason.
It’s all very boring now.

Benny

 

[Cornflakes]

It’s all very boring now.

Benny

No, Benny. It's dreadful, but it's in no way boring.

 

[anonymous]

All the while James has a number 1 record, Depeche just had one of the most successful tours/records of their career, The Cure is about to release a new record that will probably be excellent, love him or loath him, but Marr is having an excellent career and tour, Oasis is about to rake in a ton and fans will be queued up around the block, The Beatles just release all their Capitol US releases on Vinyl which are selling out before you can even buy them, and all the while Morrissey is surrounded by nothing but negativity day after day just nothing but perpetual negativity which has absolutely nothing to do with music or art.

 

[Roman Holiday]

That's ridiculing soy consumption. Not being a vegan or vegetarian. Soy is an interesting food. Although several studies have found an effect on feminisation, a large meta-analysis didn't find that. But, like most things when it comes to human diet, studies are often problematic with regard to validity.

Neither soy nor isoflavone intake affects male reproductive hormones: An expanded and updated meta-analysis of clinical studies - PubMed

Concerns that the phytoestrogens (isoflavones) in soy may feminize men continue to be raised. Several studies and case-reports describing feminizing effects including lowering testosterone levels and raising estrogen levels in men have been published. For this reason, the clinical data were...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You won't get him off on that technicality because Watson doesn't see the nuance that you do. For him, "soy boy" is simply synonymous with vegan. He makes sweeping statements about vegans being effeminate, preachy, intolerant losers. Of course, he has half a point: many vegans are preachy and intolerant (as they should be). But Watson can't engage vegans on a moral argument. So all he has are insults.

And this is a person Morrissey has promoted on his site. We'll see if he promotes O'Neill a second time. With each one, Brummie Boy's theory that Morrissey's bluster on animal rights is mainly a form of trolling gets another click on the credibility scale.

 

[Les Tameside]

Absolutely awful song both musically and lyrically and now even visually.
Typical Quilloughby gimmick song formula to shock and gain media publicity and headlines.
He used to throw mud on the Royal Family for the same reason.
It’s all very boring now.

Benny

It feels tantamount to emotional blackmail that Morrissey is advancing the idea that the song’s subject matter (and his view of it) is essentially problematic for people.

I don’t think it is. But I’d suggest it does deserve something a lot better. It’s a poor song.

 

[JRB]

That's disingenuous as hell by O'Neill and especially Morrissey, who is well aware why Brady & Hindley's names have been remembered for decades; not least, the sea change and the ending of societal 'innocence' in the public awareness i.e. that children were often not safe in our society, even from certain women, resulting from the exposure of the crimes. There are multiple reasons why those names are still notorious, and Morrissey knows this very well. Aside from this, he's never been so 'bravely' outspoken about the nationwide and shameful regularity of violence inflicted on women and even children that decorate our newspaper headlines every single day...often inflicted at the hands of white, British men.

And one of the reasons why non-white perpetrators, and their names, are so rarely publicised is because of the inevitable knock-on effect: assaults and abuse on non-white people perpetrated by big-mouthed assailants inspired and licensed by the likes of big-mouthed Morrissey, Farage and his fellow unthinking grifters, and more. Never mind the self-indulgent cares over his 'cancelled' career - it is other and frequently completely innocent people who often pay the price for such selective and incendiary 'truth-telling'.

In any case, the names of the villains are rarely publicised because of the potential threat to public order; and, again, Morrissey knows this.

I also believe the average white British person can't be that botthered to remember the name if it is not a familiar one ie an English name. If the Manchester Arena bomber had been called Bob Jones as opposed to a Muslim name, more people would remember it. Someone makes the point that few people remember the names of all of the 9/11 hijackers, or in Britain the names of the tube and bus attackers on 7 July 2005. That is not because the acts aren't heinous but because common names from different cultures don't stick in the mind as easily.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

That's disingenuous as hell by O'Neill and especially Morrissey, who is well aware why Brady & Hindley's names have been remembered for decades; not least, the sea change and the ending of societal 'innocence' in the public awareness i.e. that children were often not safe in our society, even from certain women, resulting from the exposure of the crimes. There are multiple reasons why those names are still notorious, and Morrissey knows this very well. Aside from this, he's never been so 'bravely' outspoken about the nationwide and shameful regularity of violence inflicted on women and even children that decorate our newspaper headlines every single day...often inflicted at the hands of white, British men.

And one of the reasons why non-white perpetrators, and their names, are so rarely publicised is because of the inevitable knock-on effect: assaults and abuse on non-white people perpetrated by big-mouthed assailants inspired and licensed by the likes of big-mouthed Morrissey, Farage and his fellow unthinking grifters, and more. Never mind the self-indulgent cares over his 'cancelled' career - it is other and frequently completely innocent people who often pay the price for such selective and incendiary 'truth-telling'.

In any case, the names of the villains are rarely publicised because of the potential threat to public order; and, again, Morrissey knows this.

The poor ethnics. They did nutting wrong.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

I can remember the names of a lot of serial killers but I can't tell you the name of one person involved in the 9/11 attacks, and we have been given those names, and I knew people killed in those attacks, but I don't know one person killed by a serial killer.

I think serial killers and child killers sort of fascinate the public in a way, it's more personal, there are more details, it's a different kind of murder. I think we want to know the psychology of the serial killers, what kind of childhood they had, what would drive them to do this? Whereas with terrorists, we know, it's a radical ideology and it's not as fascinating.

Does Morrissey want to talk about what the Mexican gangs and drug dealers and child traffickers are doing to the US? Does he want to talk about how the people who are here illegally are draining all of our systems? Destroying our schools? Does he want to have that conversation? Because I remember him complaining about how poorly they are treated here or how hard it was for people from the Middle East to get in here when Tina's family came over, but he has a problem with them in his own country.

Is this the same Morrissey who wrote a song about the Krays and talked about how killers do what they do for fame and how they are glamorized, and we shouldn't know their names?

There's enough going on in the UK.........he can't cover everything.

 

[The Tormentor]

Absolutely awful song both musically and lyrically and now even visually.
Typical Quilloughby gimmick song formula to shock and gain media publicity and headlines.
He used to throw mud on the Royal Family for the same reason.
It’s all very boring now.

Benny

Eejit. A heartfelt song. That truly means something. Can you not hear Morrissey??? An atrocity best forgotten as problematic re blame. A site for fans who hate our flawed hero. Christ, the flawless incredible folks throwing bricks here. Eejits all round. And it is an incredible song for those deaf.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

This raises a very interesting point. When asked in Der Spiegel about Harvey Weinstein, and he was specifically asked no matter how anyone wants to spin it, he defended Weinstein. He said the accusations were the result of someone being disappointed with bad sex, or they didn't get the part so they said they were assaulted. He also defended Spacey agaisnt allegations of the then 14 year old boy. While Spacey was found not liable, he had not gone to trial at the time and had apologized for his assault on the boy, publicly on twitter. As we know, Weinstein was convicted (one verdict overturned in NY on what is basically a technicality from the little I have read about it but will be retried and another conviction in CA)

I think your point is a very important one, if Spacey and Weinstein were Muslim, what would have said then? Women and children are assaulted and killed by white men every day, what does he have to say about that? Of course there are the other variations, women killing their own children, etc. just basically white on white crime.

I doubt he knew more than vague details.......maybe he was looking at it from his position of a "name". Either way........he was wrong.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

The channel is described as right-leaning on political issues. It has faced criticism several times for providing a platform to far-right figures without adequately challenging their rhetoric The channel has been found to have breached Ofcom's standards on several occasions. As of 12 November 2023, it was the subject of fourteen investigations into its compliance with Ofcom's due impartiality rules, including cases of potential breaches of the rule that apart from in exceptional circumstances, politicians should not act as newsreaders, reporters or interviewers.

Nothing wrong with some common sense. People are sick of the BBC and Ch 4........nobody believe their propaganda anymore.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

So it's clearly right up gordyboy's rather sad and lonely alley.

What's sad about not wanting to be spoon-fed lies every day?

 

[FROSTY]

In some ways is a good thing to not know his name as these monsters do not deserve notoriety. The event and victims should never be forgotten.

 

[Cornflakes]

What's sad about not wanting to be spoon-fed lies every day?

The fact that you will probably die still thinking that's a normal, sensible thing to say.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

The fact that you will probably die still thinking that's a normal, sensible thing to say.

Enjoy the propaganda.