GBN / Adam Chapman: "'Say what you want about Morrissey...he was right about Islamic terrorism in the UK' - Brendan O'Neill" (September 25, 2024)

'Say what you want about Morrissey...he was right about Islamic terrorism in the UK' - Brendan O'Neill

Excerpt:

The Spiked Political Editor tells GB News that Morrissey summed this up perfectly during a gig at the Palladium in London a few years back.
The former lead singer of The Smiths was introducing his new song at the time, ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’, which is about the Manchester Arena bombing in 2017.
Mr O'Neill, who was in the crowd that night, alleged Morrisey looked out at the audience and asked: "How come you know the name Myra Hindley but many of you won’t know the name of the man who bombed the Manchester Arena?"

It's such a good question. We all know Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. But if you went out on the streets and asked a hundred people to name Salman Abedi [the Manchester arena bomber] I bet they wouldn't be able to," the Spiked Political Editor said.
It's a striking observation given the asymmetry of the crimes and when they occurred: Abedi killed 22 people at the Ariana Grande concert in 2017 - and Brady and Hindley murdered five children more than 50 years ago.


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'Say what you want about Morrissey...he was right about Islamic terrorism in the UK' - Brendan O'Neill

Morrissey's comment about the Manchester Arena bomber rings just as true today, Spiked Political Editor tells GB News

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Related item:

• Spectator article by Brendan O'Neill: "Morrissey is the rock'n'roll rebel we need" - October 10, 2022

 

[Roman Holiday]

I happened to see the documentary Spacey Unmasked just the other day. It had ten different men telling how Spacey had harassed them and they were very convincing. It's just that harassment is very difficult to prove in court plus Spacey didn't rape them or use physical violence. Anyway the documentary really showed Spacey in a repulsive light and already in 2017 I though Morrissey was out of his depth in trying to defend Weinstein and Spacey without really knowing anything about those cases.

In Spacey Unmasked I was really impressed by one muscular tattooed guy who had served in the American army. You could see that this guy, who said he was straight, could have easily kicked the shit out of Spacey. Yet he said that when Spacey harassed him, he didn't even think about violence, all he felt was shame, even though he had done nothing to invite this. Usually when a man harasses a woman, he has a physical advance, but that wasn't true here. It just showed how deeply this kind of thing can affect people, even a guy like this.

Amazing. I had the opposite reaction to the testimonies in that documentary. I thought the accusers opened themselves to all sorts of questions, and I could easily see why Spacey had been acquitted by the courts at every turn.

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

Relates to:

Spectator article by Brendan O'Neill: "Morrissey is the rock'n'roll rebel we need" (October 10, 2022)

There was a truly electric moment at the Morrissey gig at the Palladium in London last night. Moz was introducing his new song, ‘Bonfire of the [sic] Teenagers’. It’s about the Manchester Arena bombing in which 22 people were killed. He looked out at the audience and asked us a question. How come you know the name Myra Hindley but many of you won’t know the name of the man who bombed the Manchester Arena? People looked stunned. I believe some looked a little ashamed. It is rare indeed for hush to fall at a Morrissey concert, but it did then.

Spectator article by Brendan O'Neill: "Morrissey is the rock'n'roll rebel we need" (October 10, 2022)

A new article by Brendan O'Neill in The Spectator, off the back of last night's Palladium show. Full text: There was a truly electric moment at the Morrissey gig at the Palladium in London last night. Moz was introducing his new song, ‘Bonfire of the [sic] Teenagers’. It’s about the Manchester...

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Yes, and I kind of agree with Brendon but Brendon would fecking say what he said, as M basically spouts Spiked. PJW talking points ( strange as PJW is anti veggie and gays and is a bit of a tard )
Spiked is an Israel-leaning, right-wing rag edited by some guy from The Times. It often had Julie Burchill on there who is pretty vile these days. She is well know in Brighton being coked off her fecking nut and being racist, a proper racist not in a woke way (I've lived in Hastings for years and go to Brighton, a lot and she has lived in Brighton for years)
Im not sure M getting praised by the GB news crowd is going to get him signed, they also like Jim Davidson What was M right about,re Islam terrorism, I have only heard him talk about Manchester bombing. As for his "Why do we know the name of Hindley " etc. Jesus, he is just going on about "The News world hands them stardom " stuff agsin, which QT covered in Natara Born Killers decades an loads of others have spoken about.

 

[gashonthenail]

Great. More ill-informed alt-rights endorsing Morrissey.

Once a Trotskyist, O'Neill was formerly a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and wrote for the party's journal Living Marxism. In 2019, O'Neill said he was a Marxist libertarian.[2][3]

Maybe you should log on to Wikipedia, Gregor, and add that in 2024 you would describe him as 'alt-right'?

Brendan O'Neill (columnist) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

in the uk the govenment and bbc are terrified of upsetting asians incase they are accused of racism,the police had all the evidence they needed to arrest the grooming gangs but shoved the file in a drawer hoping everyone would forget about it while the gangs raped thousands of young usually underpriviledged white children and early teenagers,hundreds of them are doing long prison sentences which we should all be delighted with.

GBs news are terrified of getting Tommy Robson on, they are fecking controlled opposition, Toothless , which is why they sacked three of their best people

 

[Eldritch]

pressed the wrong button that should have been a big red thumbs down.

You can easily correct that. Just press "remove" and then post your dislike. Please do.

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

Interesting point there, though. When it's a serial killer the names are plastered everywhere, so are their faces. They make TV shows and movies about them, for Gods sake... which somewhat.. disgusts me.. to my core. It's like we give them fame for what they've done(!?) I know it's all about remembering/educating.. but Hollywood blockbusters? Really?.. Weird. It's like giving them an award, in a way. With bombings, you don't see the names or faces of the purpatrators almost anywhere. Very interesting.. I wonder why this is.

Its just what M covered in Interesting Drug "The news world hands them stardom" . He is right but he is just going over old ground. Quentin Tarantino also covered this with Natural Born Killers years a fecking go. Andy Warhol and others talked about this stuff before all of them. M is being rhetorical AF
Also , M is someone who sang about Reggie Kray and put one of the Richardsons on his LP. He himself is guilty AF of giving nasty sadistic fecks attention. Shit, he even sent one of the Krays a reef. (I think Ronnie and Reggies other brother said they liked being in the song but didn't like M's voice) he was too faggy for them

 

[Eldritch]

Amazing. I had the opposite reaction to the testimonies in that documentary. I thought the accusers opened themselves to all sorts of questions, and I could easily see why Spacey had been acquitted by the courts at every turn.

What kind of questions? They openly admitted that they wanted to get into movies or acting, which is why they tolerated Spacey's advances more than they should have or at least they were afraid that turning him down too sharply would have harmed the career they wanted to have. I found them all rather convincing. Why would they otherwise go in front of camera about something which didn't happen and which shows them in an embarassing light.

 

[gashonthenail]

Maybe (hopefully) not. I don't think the O'Neill piece from two years ago made it to Central, and this seems to be a re-run. O'Neill is a gadfly "bro" who hates vegans and sissies, so if Morrissey promotes him he'll be pulling another Paul Joseph Watson thing. Another nail in the coffin, and there aren't enough letters to the pope about bullfighting and spay-and-neuter billboards in Kuala Lumpur to compensate for it.

Correction: the original piece did get shared on Morrissey Central.

Maybe it just means that it's ok to agree with something someone has said, but disagree with them on others? If Central only posted videos made by cucked soy boys, that really would be a nail in his coffin.

 

[Redacted]

I happened to see the documentary Spacey Unmasked just the other day. It had ten different men telling how Spacey had harassed them and they were very convincing. It's just that harassment is very difficult to prove in court plus Spacey didn't rape them or use physical violence. Anyway the documentary really showed Spacey in a repulsive light and already in 2017 I though Morrissey was out of his depth in trying to defend Weinstein and Spacey without really knowing anything about those cases.

In Spacey Unmasked I was really impressed by one muscular tattooed guy who had served in the American army. You could see that this guy, who said he was straight, could have easily kicked the shit out of Spacey. Yet he said that when Spacey harassed him, he didn't even think about violence, all he felt was shame, even though he had done nothing to invite this. Usually when a man harasses a woman, he has a physical advance, but that wasn't true here. It just showed how deeply this kind of thing can affect people, even a guy like this.

We know someone who was a regular on House of Cards and we didn't want to pry or anything but a few things were disclosed and yes, Spacey is a pig and got away with a lot, people were aware.
There is a lot of shame attached to these kinds of crimes, even harassment, and the perpetrators count on that to keep the victimes silenced. Harassment is very hard to prove even if you have witnesses. I do think there is a different kind of shame attached to this for men if the perpetrator is another man, I've always said society does not take the sexual abuse of males seriously enough, it's a terrible situation.
To have Morrissey defend that swine against the allegations may have been the final nail in the coffin for me, Weinstein too.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Once a Trotskyist, O'Neill was formerly a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and wrote for the party's journal Living Marxism. In 2019, O'Neill said he was a Marxist libertarian.[2][3]

Maybe you should log on to Wikipedia, Gregor, and add that in 2024 you would describe him as 'alt-right'?

Brendan O'Neill (columnist) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You hurrying to his rescue tells us all we need to know.

 

[Roman Holiday]

What kind of questions? They openly admitted that they wanted to get into movies or acting, which is why they tolerated Spacey's advances more than they should have or at least they were afraid that turning him down too sharply would have harmed the career they wanted to have. I found them all rather convincing. Why would they otherwise go in front of camera about something which didn't happen and which shows them in an embarassing light.

To keep this thread on topic, I reviewed it on the movie thread. It’s rare that I agree with Douglas Murray on anything, but on this one I do. Full disclosure, Kevin Spacey is one of my favorite actors. Still, I have no trouble accepting Guy Pearse’s account of him being very forward and “handsy.” There are a variety of motives anyone might have for exaggerating a sexual assault claim; I can’t read hearts or minds. All I can say is that the testimonies in the documentary struck me as suspicious &/or inconsistent. I had a lot of questions, which I’m sure Spacey’s attorneys asked at trial.

 

[Roman Holiday]

Maybe it just means that it's ok to agree with something someone has said, but disagree with them on others? If Central only posted videos made by cucked soy boys, that really would be a nail in his coffin.

We’ve done this to death. It’s fine to agree on some things and not on others. But when promoting something you agree with said by a repellent person who ridicules your most cherished moral positions, normal behavior is to qualify. It only takes a few words.

 

[SteveWS]

Of what use, to the mass of the public they are elected to serve, are politicians who literally declare "I'll take action on this matter"/"I care about this matter because my wife is an NHS worker/My daughters are teenagers/My father is a pensioner" (and so on)?

What use, again to the masses, are musicians who think - whether it's about child victims of the Moors Murderers or young victims of a Manchester bombing - "That could have been me, or mine...and so I'll deign to care about these matters."

Further, of what use is a songwriter who is apparently moved enough to write and talk about such young victims...while simultaneously writing missives of unthinking, unconsidered hate and grisly aesthetic disgust about children who overeat?; a singer who's so indulged himself in lazy, self-righteous thinking that his convenient assumption is plain greed rather than the many possible factors - including depression, parental influence, simple and understandable intellectual and bodily immaturity re: personal health et al - that might lead to excessive consumption.

Is he only going to give a damn about more aesthetically-pleasing children? Ones who might be or become his fans/customers? Ones who happened to live or be located near where he lives or once lived? Such selective care, outrage, or targeted disgust only displays how shallow and self-absorbed Pop's 'great intellectual' and 'sensitive soul' too frequently allows himself to be. It also shows how he, not society, has isolated himself; not least from true fellow-feeling. Even his politics essentially stems from a nostalgia bound up in what he himself has stated was often a grim, tacky, and unhappy past...and even then, he only wants it to return on his terms and tailored to his desires. Morrissey wants life on his terms, that is the bottom line of it all and this also explains his increased grasping of the comforting straw of 'Conspiracy! Everywhere!'. There's precious little room or time in his vision for other human beings; let alone for dissenting, unprofitable, unfamiliar, or indecorous children.

If you think this is far too harsh, far too judgmental, read again that passage quoted on this forum which details his disgust. Ignore the 'funny' outrage of his words and the tedious alliteration of such a show-off piece, and recognise something unpalatable: the disgust, the near-hate, the rejection of fellow humans who don't or won't meet his especial approval.

 

[Redacted]

Morrissey's hypocrisy is just utterly astounding.
He wrote a song about the Moors Murders then asks why do people know their names?
He wrote a song about the Krays, glamourizing them.
He wrote BOT and did not name 'the killer' who was already dead. Why didn't he name him and his accomplice who got life in prison?

 

[gashonthenail]

We’ve done this to death. It’s fine to agree on some things and not on others. But when promoting something you agree with said by a repellent person who ridicules your most cherished moral positions, normal behavior is to qualify. It only takes a few words.

'Repellent' is entirely subjective. And some vegans and vegetarians deserve ridicule. I don't think any of those commentators you refer to ridicule anyone just for being vegan or vegetarian. They ridicule them for their whole 'Hi, I identify as non-binary in an attempt to be vaguely interesting, my pronouns are I'm a twat, and I've gone vegan for Palestine' outlook on life. And God, does that deserve ridicule. If Central posted a video of someone promoting a carnivore diet in the same video, that would be hypocritical. But no video posted on Central has done that.

 

[smiler]

 

[Roman Holiday]

'Repellent' is entirely subjective. And some vegans and vegetarians deserve ridicule. I don't think any of those commentators you refer to ridicule anyone just for being vegan or vegetarian. They ridicule them for their whole 'Hi, I identify as non-binary in an attempt to be vaguely interesting, my pronouns are I'm a twat, and I've gone vegan for Palestine' outlook on life. And God, does that deserve ridicule. If Central posted a video of someone promoting a carnivore diet in the same video, that would be hypocritical. But no video posted on Central has done that.

No. Watson ridicules the vegan diet itself; he believes soy saps a man’s virility. He is just as much a lunatic and deserving of ridicule as any wacky ze/zer lefty you want to consider, because he believes in virtually all the crazy InfoWars conspiracy theories.

 

[T. H. Auden]

It's a bad quality recording. There's better versions of the song online.

 

[smiler]

It's a bad quality recording. There's better versions of the song online.

Please link me to them - thank you

 

[Who Rattled Your Cage]

That's disingenuous as hell by O'Neill and especially Morrissey, who is well aware why Brady & Hindley's names have been remembered for decades; not least, the sea change and the ending of societal 'innocence' in the public awareness i.e. that children were often not safe in our society, even from certain women, resulting from the exposure of the crimes. There are multiple reasons why those names are still notorious, and Morrissey knows this very well. Aside from this, he's never been so 'bravely' outspoken about the nationwide and shameful regularity of violence inflicted on women and even children that decorate our newspaper headlines every single day...often inflicted at the hands of white, British men.

And one of the reasons why non-white perpetrators, and their names, are so rarely publicised is because of the inevitable knock-on effect: assaults and abuse on non-white people perpetrated by big-mouthed assailants inspired and licensed by the likes of big-mouthed Morrissey, Farage and his fellow unthinking grifters, and more. Never mind the self-indulgent cares over his 'cancelled' career - it is other and frequently completely innocent people who often pay the price for such selective and incendiary 'truth-telling'.

In any case, the names of the villains are rarely publicised because of the potential threat to public order; and, again, Morrissey knows this.

'In any case, the names of the villains are rarely publicised because of the potential threat to public order; and, again, Morrissey knows this.'

Interesting, and inadvertently revealing, comment.