Der Spiegel audio file of Morrissey interview released

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Here you go. The recording of the interview.

Der Audiomitschnitt zum SPIEGEL-Interview mit Morrissey - Spiegel Online
Sänger Morrissey fühlt sich nach einem Interview mit dem SPIEGEL falsch zitiert und will nun nie wieder mit Printmedien sprechen. Hören Sie hier den Mitschnitt des Interviews.

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The Audio of DER SPIEGEL's Interview with Morrissey
British pop singer Morrissey has accused DER SPIEGEL of falsely quoting him in a recently published interview. The magazine stands behind its reporting and has made the decision to post the audio online in response.

On Friday, Nov. 10, DER SPIEGEL culture reporter Juliane Liebert told her editors that she had been offered an interview with British popstar Morrissey and that a decision needed to be made quickly on whether to accept. We agreed: The former lead singer of The Smiths doesn't shy away from speaking his mind - and he also doesn't grant interviews very often.

The following Monday, Liebert flew to Los Angeles, where she was to interview Morrissey on Tuesday. The interview appointment got delayed several times before finally taking place on Wednesday and lasting 40 minutes. Edited versions of interviews published in DER SPIEGEL are usually authorized by the interview subject before publication, consistent with established procedure in German journalism. But in this instance, Morrissey's team elected to forego authorization.

After its publication on Nov. 18 in DER SPIEGEL, the interview (available behind the SPIEGEL Plus paywall in German) generated headlines not only in the German-language media. English publications like the Independent also wrote about Morrissey's statements regarding Trump, Brexit, the #MeToo debate and questions of national identity.

The musician then sought to distance himself from the published interview. "Unless you see the words form in my mouth and then you see or hear the words come out of my mouth... please, if you don't see that, I didn't say them," he told fans at a concert. He said he would never grant an interview to a print journalist again.

On Monday, Morrissey followed up with a post on his official Facebook page casting doubt on whether his statements had been reflected accurately by DER SPIEGEL. He also alleged that the fact that the magazine had not yet posted the raw audio of the interview was tantamount to an indirect admission of guilt.

To counter that claim, the editors of DER SPIEGEL have decided to post the audio of the interview online.

You can listen to the interview conducted with Morrissey in Los Angeles on Nov. 15 here:


Posted by Famous when dead:

Interview mp3 - yours to keep:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dx1c0j
(the exact file as used on the site).



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In the real world, all victims should be listened to heartily. In the dirty world of politics, at least some healthy cynicism should be applied without lowering to hysteria. Again, rape accusation as a weapon. Surely we all know that governments would lower themselves to anything. Right now they're screaming out for our emotions. It's so obvious.
 
Oh Reelfountain, what am I gonna do with you?
And what about human nature? You haven't got back to me on that yet!
Oh yes of course - I was going to say that human nature is what caused those actresses - whoever they are, and there must be hundreds - to knock on Weinstein's hotel room door, all pampered up and powdered. A horrible thought, to actually willingly exchange sex for an opening into Hollywood. It's now being strenuously denied by all. But it happened. And will again and again. So there's a little story of human nature for you. And by the way, I smashed open your sister's back doors last night too.
 
In the real world, all victims should be listened to heartily. In the dirty world of politics, at least some healthy cynicism should be applied without lowering to hysteria. Again, rape accusation as a weapon. Surely we all know that governments would lower themselves to anything. Right now they're screaming out for our emotions. It's so obvious.
Are you as concerned about the low conviction rate of rape (something like 6%) as you are about false accusations? The CPS estimate 3% of accusations are malicious.
 
Oh yes of course - I was going to say that human nature is what caused those actresses - whoever they are, and there must be hundreds - to knock on Weinstein's hotel room door, all pampered up and powdered. A horrible thought, to actually willingly exchange sex for an opening into Hollywood. It's now being strenuously denied by all. But it happened. And will again and again. So there's a little story of human nature for you. And by the way, I smashed open your sister's back doors last night too.
Stop sexually abusing my family!
Re human nature. All you have done is cited it again as a cause without explaining what it is.
Just saying human nature is the reason is not an argument!
But don't worry, I think we've knackered this one.
 
Of course I'm concerned, as is everyone. I actually believe in the death penalty for violent rapists. But I fear the government may be using rape accusation as a tool here, which quite honestly makes my blood boil. Back to Morrissey - he was accused of not caring about, or believing, sex assault victims. I believe he was just being healthily sceptical in what he knows is a historically filthy business..
 
Stop sexually abusing my family!
Re human nature. All you have done is cited it again as a cause without explaining what it is.
Just saying human nature is the reason is not an argument!
But don't worry, I think we've knackered this one.
Human nature is what makes us do good and bad things and always will. There will always be that slightly dangerous off-key streak there - displayed just then when I vocally abused your family.
 
Human nature is what makes us do good and bad things and always will. There will always be that slightly dangerous off-key streak there - displayed just then when I vocally abused your family.
You've done it again!(I am saying this in an affectionate tone).
Why do bad things happen? Human nature.
What is human nature? It's what makes bad things happen.
 
It's not an exact science I grant you but don't you have the ability to be discerning language?
In my 'cloistered' and 'prudish' world it's very easy.
Come on Reelfountain, you know where I'm coming from. We are not from different planets.
All I am saying is that we should be 'gentle and kind'.
It takes strength but you can do it.
I do it all the time.
 
Which government are you talking about that you're afraid is doing this?
The people in high places who want Trump out. Want there to be another election. Want the other side to get in. That's how politics seems to work nowadays. With endless accusations and sniping. Actual policies etc are secondary. More important is how many cans of Coke the president drinks in a day.
 
God this thread used to be all about crazy opinions, stories, gossip, rumours, and arguments about Morrissey. But now it’s turned into some kind of remedial ethics course. ZzzzzZzZZZZzzzz....
Were the subjects of Morrissey's interview boring? Trump, immigration, sex accusations? I don't think so. In a single 40 minutes he pondered on so many interesting subjects... maybe you need to watch a Disney movie or something.
 
This is the issue. You're dismissing accusers outright. Of course there is a chance. But the fact that your immediate response is questioning rather than listening discourages more actual victims from coming forward. They fear they won't be believed. Why isn't your immediate response "Is there not at least a chance that this might be true?"
My immediate response is to listen... then logic and reasoning kicks in, which yes, colours things slightly. Isn't that how an intelligent mind should work? Isn't that how we've evolved up to this point. To be measured, curious about the truth. Or is knee-jerk emotional reaction all that matters nowadays?
 
That's... erm... how do I put this... wr-wr-wr-WROOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG!!!

I see you offer no statistics for your claim, so let me help you out, pal.

"European immigrants contribute £5bn to UK economy but non-EU migrants 'cost £118bn'"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/european-immigrants-contribute-5bn-to-uk-economy-but-non-eu-migrants-cost-118bn-9840170.html

The journalist tries to explain this away (unsuccessfully) later in the article with the usual reality-avoiding nonsense, but the figures are there plain on the page for anyone to see. I'll give you this though Charlie, yes some immigration does bring a "shitload of money into the country", and that's all well and good if you conveniently ignore the fact that non-EU migration takes out a tenfold-shitload amount more than it brings in.

"European immigrants contribute £5bn to UK economy but non-EU migrants 'cost £118bn'

Immigrants from Poland and the other nine countries that joined the EU in 2004 have contributed almost £5 billion more to the UK’s economy than they used in benefits and public services.

Analysis by the University College London Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration found that while the fiscal contribution by European workers was overwhelmingly positive – amounting to £20 billion in a decade – the same was not true for non-EEA arrivals.

Between 1995 and 2011, immigrants from outside the EU made a negative contribution of £118 billion over 17 years, the report found, using more publicly-funded services, including the NHS, education and benefits, than they paid in tax.
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I don't get your point here, the EU thing we're talking about was us blocking EU migrants and there you are arguing against it while pointing out that they bring in far more than they take out. You seem to be arguing with me but pointing more evidence in what I'm saying. Well done.

And by the way, Sweden is the 'rape capital' of wherever cause they re-classified how they charge sexual assault. I'll await your 3000 word retort proving my point further.
 
In California violent rapists won't get the death penalty unless someone gets killed.

But back to Der Spiegel. Did you notice that they chopped out the discussion on animal rights and vegan food? Yes, they edited it to reflect their own biases.

#GoVegan

Stop sexually abusing my family!
Re human nature. All you have done is cited it again as a cause without explaining what it is.
Just saying human nature is the reason is not an argument!
But don't worry, I think we've knackered this one.
 
In California violent rapists won't get the death penalty unless someone gets killed.

But back to Der Spiegel. Did you notice that they chopped out the discussion on animal rights and vegan food? Yes, they edited it to reflect their own biases.

#GoVegan
You're quite right. The journo has the temerity to state that she's released the full version. If that's the full unedited version, I'm on drugs.
 
[URL='https://www.morrissey-solo.com/members/born-to-harangue.25560/']Born to Harangue[/URL] said:
If, as Morrissey suggested, Anthony Rapp knew what he was getting himself in for when aged 14 he went into in a bedroom with Kevin Spacey, then shouldn't Morrissey have known what he was getting himself in for by going into a room at the age of 58 for an interview with a leftist journalist from Germany?

"I think that's ridiculous. As far as I know, he was in a room with a leftist journalist. You wonder where Morrissey's advisors were. One wonders if Morrissey did not know what could happen. I do not know about you, but I've never been in situations like this in my youth or at any stage of my life. Never. I always knew what could happen. When you are in a room with someone recording you, you have to be aware of where that can lead to if you don't watch your words. That's why it does not sound very credible to me. It seems to me Der Spiegel has been unnecessarily attacked.

Interviewees know exactly what happens. And they play along. Afterward, they feel embarrassed, or they do not like it. And then they turn it around and say: I was attacked, I was surprised, I was asked questions I wasn't expecting, those words didn't form in my mouth. But if everything had gone well and had it given them a great career boost, they would not talk about it. In many cases, one looks at the circumstances and thinks that the person referred to as the interviewee is merely disappointed."


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