Der Spiegel audio file of Morrissey interview released

Here you go. The recording of the interview.

Der Audiomitschnitt zum SPIEGEL-Interview mit Morrissey - Spiegel Online
Sänger Morrissey fühlt sich nach einem Interview mit dem SPIEGEL falsch zitiert und will nun nie wieder mit Printmedien sprechen. Hören Sie hier den Mitschnitt des Interviews.

English version:

The Audio of DER SPIEGEL's Interview with Morrissey
British pop singer Morrissey has accused DER SPIEGEL of falsely quoting him in a recently published interview. The magazine stands behind its reporting and has made the decision to post the audio online in response.

On Friday, Nov. 10, DER SPIEGEL culture reporter Juliane Liebert told her editors that she had been offered an interview with British popstar Morrissey and that a decision needed to be made quickly on whether to accept. We agreed: The former lead singer of The Smiths doesn't shy away from speaking his mind - and he also doesn't grant interviews very often.

The following Monday, Liebert flew to Los Angeles, where she was to interview Morrissey on Tuesday. The interview appointment got delayed several times before finally taking place on Wednesday and lasting 40 minutes. Edited versions of interviews published in DER SPIEGEL are usually authorized by the interview subject before publication, consistent with established procedure in German journalism. But in this instance, Morrissey's team elected to forego authorization.

After its publication on Nov. 18 in DER SPIEGEL, the interview (available behind the SPIEGEL Plus paywall in German) generated headlines not only in the German-language media. English publications like the Independent also wrote about Morrissey's statements regarding Trump, Brexit, the #MeToo debate and questions of national identity.

The musician then sought to distance himself from the published interview. "Unless you see the words form in my mouth and then you see or hear the words come out of my mouth... please, if you don't see that, I didn't say them," he told fans at a concert. He said he would never grant an interview to a print journalist again.

On Monday, Morrissey followed up with a post on his official Facebook page casting doubt on whether his statements had been reflected accurately by DER SPIEGEL. He also alleged that the fact that the magazine had not yet posted the raw audio of the interview was tantamount to an indirect admission of guilt.

To counter that claim, the editors of DER SPIEGEL have decided to post the audio of the interview online.

You can listen to the interview conducted with Morrissey in Los Angeles on Nov. 15 here:

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Posted by Famous when dead:

Interview mp3 - yours to keep:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dx1c0j
(the exact file as used on the site).



Media coverage:

• German News Site Releases Audio of Controversial Morrissey Interview: Listen - Pitchfork. Link posted by an anonymous person.
• Morrissey Really Did Say All Those Controversial Things, Newly Released Audio Proves - Uproxx. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• German news site calls Morrissey's bluff, releases audio of him saying shitty things - AV Club. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Audio from Morrissey’s controversial interview has been released, and it proves he wasn’t misquoted - Consequence Of Sound. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• The audio revealing Morrissey’s defence of Kevin Spacey has been released - Tone Deaf. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Der Spiegel releases full audio from Morrissey interview after singer refutes controversial remarks - The Independent. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Morrissey: Der Spiegel releases audio of controversial interview - BBC News. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Sorry Morrissey, Der Spiegel Has Audio Proof You're Still an Asshole - Noisey / VICE. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.

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Related item:

• Der Spiegel audio "to be released in the next days" - Juliane Liebert tweet - Dec. 11, 2017

 

[Timeplease!]

I enjoyed listening to this interview. The discussion around 31 minutes in, very much foreshadowed why controversy would ensue. The interviewer suggested Morrissey provokes in a contrarian fashion. Morrissey agreed and proceeded to do same, predicting he would be blamed for answering what he was asked. The interviewer's thought experiment about Trump was a highly leading scenario, and negligible.

Morrissey sounds simple-minded and thick as ps when talking about multi-culturalism. His ignorance of fact, and of attitude, climax at this point. Of course other people support pure blood, sturm und drang as well but that he blindly articulates this position, despite his own multi-cultural roots and ties, and the fascist implications, seems pathetic, renting any illusion.

His proposal that young people should be protected better by guardians more tuned in to threats is not without value, but equating sexual assault with a term of endearment is muddled thinking. The history, even the name of rock and roll, does reek of sexual excess and longing but he uses that generalisation to exonerate Spacey & co.

One of the problems with actors calling out prominent film figures like Spacey and Weinstein is that they're all celebrities. That makes their stories newsworthy. Some unemployed mum no one's heard of has much less chance of sympathy and interest if raped.

If the statistics are right, about 25 per cent of any population is sexually abused in one way or another. Meaning there are also a hell of a lot of abusers crouching everywhere. But benefits would be greater if the outrage could also extend to every other profession and village besides Hollywood.

Morrissey's statistics about Germany are figments of his imagination, pure attempts at mental manipulation, especially how he posits rape in this context as horrendous and certainly nothing to do with inept courtship.

He's an odd one, the Mozzer. He needs to take a good hard long look at himself. He's losing the respect of the kind people. Perhaps he never wanted that. Perhaps our sacred one is happier supping with Farage, Waters and the like?

 

[Anonymous]

https://1668cc.wordpress.com/2017/1...nes-interviews/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Anonymous]

That's... erm... how do I put this... wr-wr-wr-WROOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG!!!

I see you offer no statistics for your claim, so let me help you out, pal.

"European immigrants contribute £5bn to UK economy but non-EU migrants 'cost £118bn'"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/european-immigrants-contribute-5bn-to-uk-economy-but-non-eu-migrants-cost-118bn-9840170.html

The journalist tries to explain this away (unsuccessfully) later in the article with the usual reality-avoiding nonsense, but the figures are there plain on the page for anyone to see. I'll give you this though Charlie, yes some immigration does bring a "shitload of money into the country", and that's all well and good if you conveniently ignore the fact that non-EU migration takes out a tenfold-shitload amount more than it brings in.

"European immigrants contribute £5bn to UK economy but non-EU migrants 'cost £118bn'

Immigrants from Poland and the other nine countries that joined the EU in 2004 have contributed almost £5 billion more to the UK’s economy than they used in benefits and public services.

Analysis by the University College London Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration found that while the fiscal contribution by European workers was overwhelmingly positive – amounting to £20 billion in a decade – the same was not true for non-EEA arrivals.

Between 1995 and 2011, immigrants from outside the EU made a negative contribution of £118 billion over 17 years, the report found, using more publicly-funded services, including the NHS, education and benefits, than they paid in tax."

PEOPLE please read MOZ right again BOYCOTT FAKE NEWS DER SPIEGEL!

 

[Anonymous]

 

[reelfountain]

Provocative, inflammatory and deeply invidious language used to simplify a complex situation. It you wish to critique Hetero-Normative Privilege then that is world-wide. You also assume all migrants are heterosexual and that German & Swedish LGBTQ-Feminist agents are unable to distinguish between the intersectionalities of migrant experiences. It is quite possible to feel empathy, concern and care towards a person as a 'male migrant' whilst deeply resisting their incultured homophobia and sexism. But that requires both heart and brains alongside a thorough understanding of Intersectionality.

best
BB
Milano

Are am I hearing a real person? A human? You sound synthetically programmed. Maybe that's what all of us will sound like in the future, when we've been genetically stripped of any capability of real thought, reason and logic. Get offline and step out into the real world now and then. Trust me, it would do you a lot of good.

 

[Deleted member 25370]

https://1668cc.wordpress.com/2017/1...nes-interviews/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

in his effort to instrumentalize this interview for his agenda against "cultural marxists", he unfortunately discredits the analytical ideas, wherever he took them from

 

[reelfountain]

I haven't. In my circles, work and social it would be unacceptable. You say you hang with people who casually brag about assaulting women? Blimey.

Perhaps you're confining yourself to only one class of people. Your own. I like to mix. Men tell jokes about the opposite sex all the time - so do women. You might not believe me but, yes, it actually happens out there and is no big deal. Humour hasn't quite been outlawed yet, but we're on the way there.

 

[mcrickson]

Perhaps you're confining yourself to only one class of people. Your own. I like to mix. Men tell jokes about the opposite sex all the time - so do women. You might not believe me but, yes, it actually happens out there and is no big deal. Humour hasn't quite been outlawed yet, but we're on the way there.

Sexual assault is bad, but goddammit you gotta defend your right to tell "jokes" about violent non-consensual encounters with random strangers. No one's controlling your "right to humor," we just ask that you be a bit less of a c*** if you can, thanks.

 

[Peterb]

Perhaps you're confining yourself to only one class of people. Your own. I like to mix. Men tell jokes about the opposite sex all the time - so do women. You might not believe me but, yes, it actually happens out there and is no big deal. Humour hasn't quite been outlawed yet, but we're on the way there.

Hi Reelfountain, since you respond without the need to make insults I would like to respond.
May I point out the problems I have with your post?
First of all, you may recall I mentioned my experience whilst at work. I don't have any control over who I meet at work.
Secondly you seem to think this about class. I don't.
Lastly I don't think jokes about sexual abuse are funny.
Do you?

 

[reelfountain]

What the world needs now is more folks like you, l’il shooter. LOL! Surrounded by facts. Too smug to care. ...and with enough time spent in men’s rooms with assholes to passively excuse the sad, ignorant status quo. Keep that shit up ya low-expectation-having motherf***er.

Thanks for the colourful language. Actually I find the expression motherf***er a little demeaning to women, but that's just me. What simply intrigues me about Trump is the sudden frothing-at-the-mouth spasms of rage that some people engage in at the mere mention of his name. Why wasn't there a similar reaction for, say, George W Bush? Me, I feel a healthy cynicism and suspicion towards anybody in any position of power. Is anybody in politics a good guy? I doubt it.

 

[Born to Harangue]

If, as Morrissey suggested, Anthony Rapp knew what he was getting himself in for when aged 14 he went into in a bedroom with Kevin Spacey, then shouldn't Morrissey have known what he was getting himself in for by going into a room at the age of 58 for an interview with a leftist journalist from Germany?

"I think that's ridiculous. As far as I know, he was in a room with a leftist journalist. You wonder where Morrissey's advisors were. One wonders if Morrissey did not know what could happen. I do not know about you, but I've never been in situations like this in my youth or at any stage of my life. Never. I always knew what could happen. When you are in a room with someone recording you, you have to be aware of where that can lead to if you don't watch your words. That's why it does not sound very credible to me. It seems to me Der Spiegel has been unnecessarily attacked.

Interviewees know exactly what happens. And they play along. Afterward, they feel embarrassed, or they do not like it. And then they turn it around and say: I was attacked, I was surprised, I was asked questions I wasn't expecting, those words didn't form in my mouth. But if everything had gone well and had it given them a great career boost, they would not talk about it. In many cases, one looks at the circumstances and thinks that the person referred to as the interviewee is merely disappointed."

Morrissey's statistics about Germany are figments of his imagination, pure attempts at mental manipulation...

Wrong. The statistics are very real. As out of line as Morrissey was about Spacey, he was mostly right here. The only marginally inaccurate part was that Germany is the rape capital of Europe; it isn't - that's currently Sweden, but Germany is following along very closely behind. I direct you to this post (quoted below) that I put together earlier this afternoon. What Morrissey brought up is a hugely pressing issue which will only become more pressing and widespread over the coming years, and it's not in the least bit helped when weirdo losers such as yourself deny - for political reasons - that the problem even exists. So f*** you, you lying piece of shit.

Exhibit A: Germany (taken from the Financial Times)
https://www.ft.com/content/b5a8867e-28ea-11e7-bc4b-5528796fe35c

Germany sees rise in crime committed by asylum seekers
Officials blame cramped conditions, religious tensions and refugee demographics

Germany has seen a big increase in crimes committed by asylum seekers, a development that is likely to be seized on by the populist Alternative for Germany as it campaigns against Angela Merkel’s liberal refugee policy in this year’s Bundestag elections.

Figures released by the interior ministry showed that some 174,000 immigrants from non-EU countries were suspected of carrying out crimes last year, a 52 per cent increase on 2015.

[...]

A wave of sexual attacks in Cologne on New Year’s Eve in 2015, believed to be carried out by men of North African origin, also fuelled fears that the surge in immigration could trigger higher rates of sexual crime.

Thomas de Maizière, German Interior Minister
The crime statistics, released on Monday, showed that immigrants were responsible for 35 per cent of cases of pickpocketing, 11 per cent of home break-ins, and nearly 15 per cent of cases of grievous bodily harm.

“Crimes committed by [asylum-seeking] immigrants saw a disproportionate increase last year — there’s nothing there we can gloss over,” said German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière. He said when it came to violent crimes there were “about 90 per cent more immigrant suspects in 2016” than in the prior year.

Mr de Maizière cited the cramped conditions of refugee hostels as a contributory factor, as well as “potentially explosive” ethnic and religious tensions between different immigrant groups.

He also noted that many of the refugees were young men aged between 18 and 21 — a group where the crime rate, even among Germans, is four times higher than that of the average population.'

[...]

Of the 2m criminal suspects recorded in Germany in 2016, 616,000 were non-Germans, or about 30 per cent of the total.

Overall, there was a slight dip in the number of crimes recorded in Germany last year, despite the increase in population resulting from the refugee surge.

But there was a 6.7 per cent increase in crimes of violence, a development Mr de Maizière described as a “wake-up call for us all”. Cases of murder and manslaughter increased 14 per cent, of rape and sexual assault by 13 per cent and grievous bodily harm by 10 per cent. However there were fewer crimes such as break-ins, shoplifting and fraud.


Exhibit B: Sweden (taken from The Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ccused-cover-up-sex-attacks-refugees-festival

Sweden’s prime minister has condemned a “double betrayal” of women after allegations that police covered up sexual harassment by recent immigrants at a music festival in Stockholm. Meanwhile, reports have emerged of attacks on women in Malmö on New Year’s Eve.

"Groups of refugees molested concertgoers at We Are Stockholm, Europe’s largest youth festival, in the summer of 2014, according to internal police memos obtained by Dagens Nyheter, a daily newspaper.

“These are so-called refugee youths, specifically from Afghanistan. Several of the gang were arrested for sexual molestation,” one police memo said.

Yet the official police report on the five-day festival attended by 170,000 young people aged mainly 13-19 made no mention of sexual harassment or assaults.

The prime minister, Stefan Löfven, said this amounted to a double betrayal since no one was prosecuted for the crimes and the police did not make them public.

The reports come as police in Cologne, Germany, investigate hundreds of claims of assaults on women on New Year’s Eve. Officials say nearly all of the suspects in the attacks were “people with an immigrant background”. Police and the media have been accused of deliberately under-reporting the events in order not to encourage anti-immigrant sentiment."

[...]

Exhibit C: A specific case from Germany, one of many I could post here. (taken from Metro UK)
https://www.metro.co.uk/2017/09/06/...tisfy-sexual-urges-before-killing-her-6906912

An Afghan asylum seeker raped a German diplomat’s daughter ‘to satisfy his sexual urges’ then left her to die, a court has heard.

Hussein Khavari, from Afghanistan, is accused of ambushing Maria Ladenburger, 19, when she was cycling home from a party along a river in Freiburg, Germany last October.

Prosecutors accuse him of ‘maliciously’ attacking the young medical student before leaving her unconscious body to drown in a river.

He was linked to Maria, when police found a single strand of his hair at the crime scene and other traces of his DNA on a scarf left behind.

Maria, whose father is a senior legal adviser to the European Commission in Brussels, would spend her spare time helping out the city’s migrants in various shelters and homes.

Hussein Khavari, is accused of raping and drowning Maria Ladenburger
Her body was found in the Dreisam River less than one mile from the student accommodation where she lived.

It took seven weeks before Khavari was arrested. The refugee claimed he was 17 at the time of the offence but other reports suggest he could be at least 22. (EDIT: As revealed by his father during the recent court case, Khavari was born in January 1984, making him 33 years old.)

The killing sparked frenzied new waves of hatred and fear of refugees.

Even the leader of the country’s police union blamed Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open door asylum-seeker policy for her death.

The anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD) party called Maria a ‘victim of Merkel’s welcome culture’.

Maria would spend her free time volunteering at Freiburg’s refugee shelters and homes.

It later emerged that Khavari was previously sentenced to 10 years in prison for attempted murder after he threw a woman off a cliff in Corfu in May 2013.

It is still unclear why Khavari, who arrived in Germany as an unaccompanied minor, was released by Greek authorities after just two years.
Apparently the German authorities knew nothing of his past and so let him into the country as a registered asylum seeker.

The victim, a history student, fell 25ft down the Greek cliff and only survived because she knew how to protect her head from her hobby of mountaineering.

She said she had been walking home when Khavari suddenly appeared in front of her: ‘I gave him my purse. But when the headlights of a car illuminated him he pushed me backwards.’

Speaking to the Greek TV channel Alfa in 2014 she went on: ‘Then he grabbed me at the hips and legs, lifted me up and threw me down the cliff.’

After Bild newspaper showed a recent photograph of him to his lawyer in the Greek trial, Maria-Eleni Nikolopoulou, she told them: ‘This is the same person, definitely. I’m speechless.’

 

[Anonymous]

If you dont think is not funny dont laugh but dont get your panties all in a bunch for gods sake. we are creating a world of pansies.

 

[reelfountain]

Sexual assault is bad, but goddammit you gotta defend your right to tell "jokes" about violent non-consensual encounters with random strangers. No one's controlling your "right to humor," we just ask that you be a bit less of a c*** if you can, thanks.

You're not getting me. I said that both men and women tell jokes about the opposite sex - I didn't say all men and women do, and I didn't say I do myself. What people like you need to grasp is a better understanding of human nature. It's not perfect. There are flaws. There's no point stamping your feet about it. Call me names all you like, it won't change the slightly cruel streak that exists in human nature.

 

[Peanut]

Why wasn't there a similar reaction for, say, George W Bush?

Of course there was abundant criticism of Dubya, but Trump's style of PR consists mostly of trolling so it's normal that there's a reaction with people shouting loudly at each other (much like on here).

 

[mcrickson]

You're not getting me. I said that both men and women tell jokes about the opposite sex

It doesn't matter what gender does it. It's just as wrong for women as it is for men.

What people like you need to grasp is a better understanding of human nature. It's not perfect. There are flaws. There's no point stamping your feet about it. Call me names all you like, it won't change the slightly cruel streak that exists in human nature.

What people like you need to grasp is that you can better the people around you. Quit parroting Morrissey, take off your tinfoil hat, and tell the people you hear making those jokes that it's shitty of them. Make an example. Or would you rather languish, because society is cruel?

 

[Peterb]

You're not getting me. I said that both men and women tell jokes about the opposite sex - I didn't say all men and women do, and I didn't say I do myself. What people like you need to grasp is a better understanding of human nature. It's not perfect. There are flaws. There's no point stamping your feet about it. Call me names all you like, it won't change the slightly cruel streak that exists in human nature.

Human nature? You think it's thing and you what it is? Is it original sin?
I haven't a clue. People behave in so many many different ways. To find a common denominator and call it human nature is terribly clever of you.

 

[reelfountain]

Of course there was, but Trump's style of PR consists mostly of trolling so it's normal that there's a reaction (much like on here).

No, there's more of a reaction to Trump because he's been thrust into people's faces daily via social media etc. whereas back in the day with Dubya people would've been doing more interesting things than staring at gadgets every spare minute of the day. That's what it is and we're all guilty of it. People lived more then. Now we sit and stare. And froth at the mouth as it all insidiously gets to us.

 

[Peterb]

It doesn't matter what gender does it. It's just as wrong for women as it is for men.



What people like you need to grasp is that you can better the people around you. Quit parroting Morrissey, take off your tinfoil hat, and tell the people you hear making those jokes that it's shitty of them. Make an example. Or would you rather languish, because society is cruel?

Mr Crickson, 'you can better the people around you'. Beautiful.

 

[Peanut]

No, there's more of a reaction to Trump because he's been thrust into people's faces daily social media etc. whereas back in the day with Dubya people would've been doing more interesting things than staring at gadgets every spare minute of the day.

Of course that too, thought it didn't need to be mentioned.

Still, there was plenty of social media around during Obama's presidency and not quite as much controversy, to put it mildly.

 

[reelfountain]

It doesn't matter what gender does it. It's just as wrong for women as it is for men.



What people like you need to grasp is that you can better the people around you. Quit parroting Morrissey, take off your tinfoil hat, and tell the people you hear making those jokes that it's shitty of them. Make an example. Or would you rather languish, because society is cruel?

Are you seriously suggesting I tell people to stop being humourous? The whole idea of a joke is that there's some poor bastard at the end of it. Or should we only rip the piss out of people who you feel somehow deserve ridicule? And if so, how are we ever to agree who these peolpe are?