Der Spiegel audio file of Morrissey interview released

Here you go. The recording of the interview.

Der Audiomitschnitt zum SPIEGEL-Interview mit Morrissey - Spiegel Online
Sänger Morrissey fühlt sich nach einem Interview mit dem SPIEGEL falsch zitiert und will nun nie wieder mit Printmedien sprechen. Hören Sie hier den Mitschnitt des Interviews.

English version:

The Audio of DER SPIEGEL's Interview with Morrissey
British pop singer Morrissey has accused DER SPIEGEL of falsely quoting him in a recently published interview. The magazine stands behind its reporting and has made the decision to post the audio online in response.

On Friday, Nov. 10, DER SPIEGEL culture reporter Juliane Liebert told her editors that she had been offered an interview with British popstar Morrissey and that a decision needed to be made quickly on whether to accept. We agreed: The former lead singer of The Smiths doesn't shy away from speaking his mind - and he also doesn't grant interviews very often.

The following Monday, Liebert flew to Los Angeles, where she was to interview Morrissey on Tuesday. The interview appointment got delayed several times before finally taking place on Wednesday and lasting 40 minutes. Edited versions of interviews published in DER SPIEGEL are usually authorized by the interview subject before publication, consistent with established procedure in German journalism. But in this instance, Morrissey's team elected to forego authorization.

After its publication on Nov. 18 in DER SPIEGEL, the interview (available behind the SPIEGEL Plus paywall in German) generated headlines not only in the German-language media. English publications like the Independent also wrote about Morrissey's statements regarding Trump, Brexit, the #MeToo debate and questions of national identity.

The musician then sought to distance himself from the published interview. "Unless you see the words form in my mouth and then you see or hear the words come out of my mouth... please, if you don't see that, I didn't say them," he told fans at a concert. He said he would never grant an interview to a print journalist again.

On Monday, Morrissey followed up with a post on his official Facebook page casting doubt on whether his statements had been reflected accurately by DER SPIEGEL. He also alleged that the fact that the magazine had not yet posted the raw audio of the interview was tantamount to an indirect admission of guilt.

To counter that claim, the editors of DER SPIEGEL have decided to post the audio of the interview online.

You can listen to the interview conducted with Morrissey in Los Angeles on Nov. 15 here:

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Posted by Famous when dead:

Interview mp3 - yours to keep:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dx1c0j
(the exact file as used on the site).



Media coverage:

• German News Site Releases Audio of Controversial Morrissey Interview: Listen - Pitchfork. Link posted by an anonymous person.
• Morrissey Really Did Say All Those Controversial Things, Newly Released Audio Proves - Uproxx. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• German news site calls Morrissey's bluff, releases audio of him saying shitty things - AV Club. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Audio from Morrissey’s controversial interview has been released, and it proves he wasn’t misquoted - Consequence Of Sound. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• The audio revealing Morrissey’s defence of Kevin Spacey has been released - Tone Deaf. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Der Spiegel releases full audio from Morrissey interview after singer refutes controversial remarks - The Independent. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Morrissey: Der Spiegel releases audio of controversial interview - BBC News. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Sorry Morrissey, Der Spiegel Has Audio Proof You're Still an Asshole - Noisey / VICE. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.

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Related item:

• Der Spiegel audio "to be released in the next days" - Juliane Liebert tweet - Dec. 11, 2017

 

[Peterb]

No, there's more of a reaction to Trump because he's been thrust into people's faces daily social media etc. whereas back in the day with Dubya people would've been doing more interesting things than staring at gadgets every spare minute of the day. That's what it is and we're all guilty of it. People lived more then. Now we sit and stare. And froth at the mouth as it all insidiously gets to us.

Excellent point.
Actually I did rail against Bush at the the time but you're right that these days we know every dastardly deed as soon as he does it.
But we should be careful not to make value judgements about the current generation. Yes they do spend time on their devices but why should that be bad?
There's a debate to be had.
Remember. older generations always bang on about how things were more 'real' in their day.
Not true.

 

[mcrickson]

Are you seriously suggesting I tell people to stop being humourous? The whole idea of a joke is that there's some poor bastard at the end of it. Or should we only rip the piss out of people who you feel somehow deserve ridicule? And if so, how are we ever to agree who these peolpe are?

I'm seriously suggesting you tell people to stop making jokes about sexual assault. Yes.
Sorry if that "cramps your style."

 

[reelfountain]

Human nature? You think it's thing and you what it is? Is it original sin?
I haven't a clue. People behave in so many many different ways. To find a common denominator and call it human nature is terribly clever of you.

Remember, human nature is what

Of course that too, thought it didn't need to be mentioned.

Still, there was plenty of social media around during Obama's presidency and not quite as much controversy, to put it mildly.

Ah, to bully Obama would be running a gauntlet of racist accusations, so people held back, be it subconsciuosly or whatever. Whereas to fume and spit bile at the big, blond, fat American seems fare game.

Excellent point.
Actually I did rail against Bush at the the time but you're right that these days we know every dastardly deed as soon as he does it.
But we should be careful not to make value judgements about the current generation. Yes they do spend time on their devices but why should that be bad?
There's a debate to be had.
Remember. older generations always bang on about how things were more 'real' in their day.
Not true.

I agree. It's not necessarily bad to be informing yourself online and keeping in touch with issues of the day etc, it can be very stimulating. It's just all very different to how it was then. Just an observation really - how politics is more on everybody's minds now. It's the current day popular soap opera gossiped about avidly by all. We think we're all being greatly informed, but in a way we're all being conned.

 

[Peterb]

Are you seriously suggesting I tell people to stop being humourous? The whole idea of a joke is that there's some poor bastard at the end of it. Or should we only rip the piss out of people who you feel somehow deserve ridicule? And if so, how are we ever to agree who these peolpe are?

It's not an exact science I grant you but don't you have the ability to be discerning language?
In my 'cloistered' and 'prudish' world it's very easy.
Come on Reelfountain, you know where I'm coming from. We are not from different planets.
All I am saying is that we should be 'gentle and kind'.
It takes strength but you can do it.

 

[Peterb]

Remember, human nature is what

I think you left the human nature sentence incomplete.
Tell me your thoughts on this.

 

[reelfountain]

I'm seriously suggesting you tell people to stop making jokes about sexual assault. Yes.
Sorry if that "cramps your style."

Jokes can sometimes be close to the edge - I don't think we should censor anything or anybody. We're all intelligent enough to know if something is said as a risque joke or in malice. Obviously if I heard someone laugh and say something witless like, 'Hey, I raped someone last night and she begged for more,' I'd probably call the police.

 

[mcrickson]

Jokes can sometimes be close to the edge - I don't think we should censor anything or anybody. We're all intelligent to know if something is said as a risque joke or in malice. Obviously if I heard someone laugh and say something witless like, 'Hey, I raped someone last night and she begged for more,' I'd probably call the police.

I've already addressed social responsibility in this thread, I don't feel like re-typing it.

Jovial talk about aggressive behavior normalizes aggressive behavior. Is there a reason you'd reprimand a child for saying such things, but it's okay when your friends do it? Because "they know better"? Clearly not, because sexual assault still happens in the droves. Am I saying that any one of your friends is going to sexually assault a woman in their lifetime? I don't know, I don't know them. But all it takes is someone socially unhinged enough to hear one of your jokes and think "Ha, yeah, it WOULD get my rocks off to do something like that." And believe it or not, you're responsible for the normalization of that behavior.

 

[bhops]

I'm seriously suggesting you tell people to stop making jokes about sexual assault. Yes.
Sorry if that "cramps your style."

Just so I understand what your baseline is, let’s say I’m out with a couple of women, one of them sees a good looking guy walk into the bar and she says, “Gee I’d like to grab that guy by the balls and take him home and xyz him.’

She says it with a grin on her face and the other girl laughs and replies, ‘same!’

Now at that point I am expected to slam down my glass and say ‘that is sexual assault you are talking about and it is wrong!’

Is that the sort of scenario you are talking about?

 

[reelfountain]

I've already addressed social responsibility in this thread, I don't feel like re-typing it.

My point is that you will never get rid of it, no matter what you do, no matter who you teach. Human nature again. To totally eradicate even say, racism, you would have to actually reprogramme the human mind to not be naturally suspicious of any kind of other. Because humans and all animals naturally fear the other. Humour too, it's something we have evolved with. It will always exist. You seem on a crusade to stamp it out. But it's not going to happen. Not until we get re-programmed - which is coming in the future.

 

[mcrickson]

My point is that you will never get rid of it, no matter what you do, no matter who you teach. Human nature again. To totally eradicate even say, racism, you would have to actually reprogramme the human mind to not bet naturally suspicious of any kind of other.

Cool, guess we should just stop trying to better humanity then, huh?

Humour too, it's something we have evolved with. It will always exist. You seem on a crusade to stamp it out. But it's not going to happen. Not until we get re-programmed - which is coming in the future.

You seem on a crusade to brand casual intentions of sexual assault as "humor" - so I guess we're even. Also, I love how you sign off with your typical dystopian nightmare, as if the world is going to 1984 in a handbasket if you were to say "Hey, that's pretty messed up that you're 'joking' about violently violating another human being."

 

[Peterb]

My point is that you will never get rid of it, no matter what you do, no matter who you teach. Human nature again. To totally eradicate even say, racism, you would have to actually reprogramme the human mind to not bet naturally suspicious of any kind of other. Because humans and all animals naturally fear the other. Humour too, it's something we have evolved with. It will always exist. You seem on a crusade to stamp it out. But it's not going to happen. Not until we get re-programmed - which is coming in the future.

Human nature again!
It's tosh Reelfountain.
You know it. It's your only argument for the acceptability of disgusting behaviour.
It's not in my nature and judging by some of your statements above, I bet it's not in yours either.

 

[mcrickson]

Just so I understand what your baseline is, let’s say I’m out with a couple of women, one of them sees a good looking guy walk into the bar and she says, “Gee I’d like to grab that guy by the balls and take him home and xyz him.’

She says it with a grin on her face and the other girl laughs and replies, ‘same!’

Now at that point I am expected to slam down my glass and say ‘that is sexual assault you are talking about and it is wrong!’

Is that the sort of scenario you are talking about?

The tone of this post implies to me that you are afraid of saying such a thing to women? I've already explained this to you. I don't know who you hang out with or what they're like. All it takes is one unhinged person being in on this conversation to decide, "Hey, everyone else is laughing about this, it must be fine. Next time I see that man in my office I'm going to.."

And yes, before you reply, switch the genders around and the point is still the same.

 

[reelfountain]

Cool, guess we should just stop trying to better humanity then, huh?



You seem on a crusade to brand casual intentions of sexual assault as "humor" - so I guess we're even. Also, I love how you sign off with your typical dystopian nightmare, as if the world is going to 1984 in a handbasket if you were to say "Hey, that's pretty messed up that you're 'joking' about violently violating another human being."

But I still find saying 'I grab em by the pussy' simply humorous rather than so death-chokingly offensive as all the media headlines encouraged us to believe at the time. They say jump, we jump. Not me.

 

[mcrickson]

But I still find saying 'I grab em by the pussy' simply humorous rather than so death-chokingly offensive as all the media headlines encouraged us to believe at the time. They say jump, we jump. Not me.

Well the thing with that particular line and the man famous for saying it is - he was accused of doing exactly that (and more) by just south of 20 women. So, it's not particularly funny in his case, is it?

 

[Peterb]

But I still find saying 'I grab em by the pussy' simply humorous rather than so death-chokingly offensive as all the media headlines encouraged us to believe at the time. They say jump, we jump. Not me.

Really?
Hey I grabbed your mother by the pussy and she loved it.
Is that funny?

 

[reelfountain]

Well the thing with that particular line and the man famous for saying it is - he was accused of doing exactly that (and more) by just south of 20 women. So, it's not particularly funny in his case, is it?

Politics is the dirtiest business out there. Nothing, no matter how evil and how low, would surprise me about it. Are you saying that there is not at least a chance that they are not using these accusations as a weapon of destruction?

 

[reelfountain]

Really?
Hey I grabbed your mother by the pussy and she loved it.
Is that funny?

Yes, because I did exactly the same to yours last night.

 

[Anonymous]

God this thread used to be all about crazy opinions, stories, gossip, rumours, and arguments about Morrissey. But now it’s turned into some kind of remedial ethics course. ZzzzzZzZZZZzzzz....

 

[mcrickson]

Politics is the dirtiest business out there. Nothing, no matter how evil and how low, would surprise me about it. Are you saying that there is not at least a chance that they are not using these accusations as a weapon of destruction?

This is the issue. You're dismissing accusers outright. Of course there is a chance. But the fact that your immediate response is questioning rather than listening discourages more actual victims from coming forward. They fear they won't be believed. Why isn't your immediate response "Is there not at least a chance that this might be true?"

 

[bhops]

The tone of this post implies to me that you are afraid of saying such a thing to women? I've already explained this to you. I don't know who you hang out with or what they're like. All it takes is one unhinged person being in on this conversation to decide, "Hey, everyone else is laughing about this, it must be fine. Next time I see that man in my office I'm going to.."

And yes, before you reply, switch the genders around and the point is still the same.

I’m happy to address the points of this post in detail, but just so I’m clear your answer to my scenario is that I should stand up and say that this type of talk is totally unacceptable and please desist at once?