Fox5NY: Morrissey, Exclusive Performance & Interview (October 20, 2023)

JerryCan · Oct 23, 2023

Mimi Ramone said:
I've now watched the whole interview. I don't get why he shied away from doing interviews. When he is like this, just talking without any agenda, he really comes off as nice and still his usual bit eccentric...

Yes this one went really well and I would love to see more like it. Rosanna seemed a good match for him. But in the UK something like this could still be a minefield for him. Hardly a week goes by without them lining up someone new to cancel for something or other.

Anonimyth · Oct 23, 2023

Aubrey McFate said:
I can kind of hear an acoustic guitar in the spot you're talking about, but it disappears at the instrumental break. If they were piping in a backing track, wouldn't the acoustic guitar be there for the whole tune? I'm not convinced Carmen Vandenberg is so untalented that she's essentially a guitarist Milli Vanilli.

It's the subtlety of sound mixing. The acoustic guitar backing track has variations in volume. That's the job of the sound person. At the end it almost vanishes.

I'm afraid it is a bit of a travesty or fraud (not her fault, she's probably just following orders) because many could believe she is doing the sound of that acoustic guitar.

In reality, she could not be there and no one would notice, soundwise. After all, a pre-recorded backing track is doing the job.

Eldritch · Oct 23, 2023

matt said:
Imagine getting the chance for a rare interview/exposure where you bemoan the lack of a release for your great new album that you're dying to share with the world, and you choose to play an absolute dirge like 'Sure Enough...'.

He's done, I feel, if that's the best he can muster. If I was a neutral watching that, or a record company exec, it'd certainly not grab my attention or excite me.

Well, this is the guy who chose to play People Are the Same Everywhere in the Nobel gala...

The interview was nice though. He should really do this kind of thing more often.

Roman Holiday · Oct 23, 2023

Anonimyth said:
I'm afraid it is a bit of a travesty or fraud (not her fault, she's probably just following orders) because many could believe she is doing the sound of that acoustic guitar.

If it's not her fault, then why is it being done? The original claim was that the acoustic part was being piped in because neither she nor Camila Grey could play it.

But these aren't difficult chords, and a five-piece band is more than sufficient to play the song. The only reason to use a backing track would be if someone's playing ability was so bad they couldn't hack it. I have a hard time believing Carmen Vandenberg would pass Jeff Beck's audition if she couldn't play.

Mimi Ramone · Oct 23, 2023

JerryCan said:
Yes this one went really well and I would love to see more like it. Rosanna seemed a good match for him. But in the UK something like this could still be a minefield for him. Hardly a week goes by without them lining up someone new to cancel for something or other.

Maybe you are right. I supposed that there were similar media outlets in other countries too, but I really have no idea, how much of a minefield even a UK breakfast show would be for him. In my country I don't know (not that he ever gives a concert there nowadays or would give an interview, lol) it would certainly depend on how much the general public has forgotten about certain statements in the past and a newspaper interview would certainly be out of question (because he would be asked about these statements 100%). But I thought, maybe short and/or music related media outlets, where its likely, that they just talk music, fans etc and that's it could be an option.

Malarkey · Oct 23, 2023

You can see the wisdom of having a pr around. He can do that in the UK.

But, it'll take work, four years of Central has done more damage than 30 years of "print media".

Gregor Samsa · Oct 23, 2023

He didn’t make a fool of himself. But like someone said, playing SEtTR and at the same time bemoan the lack of label interest is mind-boggling. It’s not the worst song he’s ever written, but it’s lightweight, throwaway and without any humour or wit. He can’t help perpetually digging his own grave.

JerryCan · Oct 23, 2023

Mimi Ramone said:
Maybe you are right. I supposed that there were similar media outlets in other countries too, but I really have no idea, how much of a minefield even a UK breakfast show would be for him...

Local telly did for our last (or previous to that, lost count) prime minister. She thought it would be safe but they leapt at the chance to torpedo her. To be fair she was f**king awful.

Ann Soforth · Oct 23, 2023

Gregor Samsa said:
He didn’t make a fool of himself. But like someone said, playing SEtTR and at the same time bemoan the lack of label interest is mind-boggling. It’s not the worst song he’s ever written, but it’s lightweight, throwaway and without any humour or wit. He can’t help perpetually digging his own grave.

'Sure enough, the telephone rings,
Who wants their money back?'

Crisstti · Oct 23, 2023

Mimi Ramone said:
Maybe you are right. I supposed that there were similar media outlets in other countries too, but I really have no idea, how much of a minefield even a UK breakfast show would be for him. In my country I don't know (not that he ever gives a concert there nowadays or would give an interview, lol) it would certainly depend on how much the general public has forgotten about certain statements in the past and a newspaper interview would certainly be out of question (because he would be asked about these statements 100%). But I thought, maybe short and/or music related media outlets, where its likely, that they just talk music, fans etc and that's it could be an option.

He just needs to say beforehand that he won't be answering questions on politics, if he doesn't want to.

JerryCan said:
Local telly did for our last (or previous to that, lost count) prime minister. She thought it would be safe but they leapt at the chance to torpedo her. To be fair she was f**king awful.

It's different for a politician. They can't really avoid political questions, can they.

Anonimyth · Oct 23, 2023

Aubrey McFate said:
If it's not her fault, then why is it being done? The original claim was that the acoustic part was being piped in because neither she nor Camila Grey could play it.

But these aren't difficult chords, and a five-piece band is more than sufficient to play the song. The only reason to use a backing track would be if someone's playing ability was so bad they couldn't hack it. I have a hard time believing Carmen Vandenberg would pass Jeff Beck's audition if she couldn't play.

You're right, easy chords and a particular way of strumming that she seem to be unable to emulate. Maybe it's her musical background, distorted heavy blues/hard rock. That suited Jeff Beck perfectly well. Also she's young and looks cool/diverse enough to conform to current global trends

Dirk Blaggard · Oct 23, 2023

Go on M, give it to 'em
I enjoyed this. He was fire live in NY as well. Hearing him sing Istanbul was fecking brilliant
Such a great voice. Not sure why people think the sound wasn't that good, on the show. Sounded fine to me and his voice was great for early in the morning. M has done a few Fox things now, hasn't he?
I'd have liked to see him with Tucker. lol.
Those emails leaking could have done him a favour. No longer hiding behind the excuses. If he feels the LP is that good, he should get it out there, by any means. I know we have all said it before but I think he should self-release or go indie. He should then use the alt media.
A "f*** the mainstream" promotion. Would have been better during Covid but whatever.
I like the part when he said about ageing on here . You can tell he gets fecked off when people say about how he looks these days. Made me fecking piss myself when he said "Look at you" or whatever he said
His skin looks quite young, quite tight.. He looked pretty ropey from late 40s until 60s
but the last couple of years, he has looked much better. I think anyway.

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