Morrissey Central "‘BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS’ IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS" (June 14, 2023)

'BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS’ IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS'

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Artist-friendly Capitol Records (Los Angeles) have no plans to release ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’ two and a half years after the album was recorded.

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Morrissey’s new comment on the situation:

“It’s a clear display of how censorian the music industry has become. It is a new part of the music industry that does not work and that nobody likes. Music should be the primary democracy, as all art should be, and any effort to keep people away from it simply invites deeper discussion. There is no point banning ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’ because somebody somewhere might be offended if they heard it. Why waste time on other people’s mental incapacities? And where is Capitol’s support for the kids who were murdered in that Manchester bonfire on 22 May 2017? Although Capitol claims to be a label of ‘diversity’ it is very difficult to see their humanity. If you are only prepared to release music that draws people’s minds away from thinking then you are unfit for any contact with creative people. Songs are literary compositions, and writing music should be an unrestricted open form. It seems to me that Capitol Records cannot observe the possibility that their artists or their potential customers have ever thought. But silencing certain artists achieves nothing, and simply makes the bonfire burn taller and louder. The moral perspective at Capitol Records who is sitting like a hen on an egg on ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’ is Michelle Jubelirer, who played no small part in removing ‘World Peace is None Of Your Business’ from the shelves in 2014 - determined that it could not sell or be heard. The same creeping culture of censorship at Capitol Records has taken place with ‘Bonfire Of Teenagers’, and the civic structure of Capitol now appears fascist. I still have hope in the music industry, but there are evidently several powerful faces within it that have no honest interest in music … and you follow them into the shadows at your peril.”
MORRISSEY.

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(Middle image = Michelle Jubelirer).
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I can assure you there is no conspiracy of silence around the Nottingham incident. The reason for the lack of information on the perpetrator is because it was clear from the outset that this is highly unlikely to have been a terrorist attack. What self-respecting terrorist launches a 'spectacular' at 4am? It's far more likely that this act has been perpetrated by someone experiencing a severe mental health episode. It would be far from the first time this has happened. Unfortunately, such is the world now that (as we see here) people immediately assume any such grisly incident is a terror attack. And THAT is why the media is being very careful what they say: A lot of people already presume it's a terror attack, the last thing you should do is encourage the narrow-minded idiots even more.

Google 'Eden Strang'. That offence was committed in 1999 but I guarantee you if it had happened now a whole bunch of people would assume it was a terror attack. These things (sadly) happen from time to time. It's not always the big scary Muslims.
If it isn't a terrorist attack, then one would think the press would be very willing to give the info that indicates it isn't. You know, to discourage those "narrow-minded idiots".

People would assume now it's a terror attack because this kind of attack has for a while been usually a terror attack...
 
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If it isn't a terrorist attack, then one would think the press would be very willing to give the info that indicates it isn't. You know, to discourage those "narrow-minded idiots".
The police have still not yet said whether it was or wasn't, and the press are being careful to stick to only what they are being officially told. Nothing has been officially confirmed so they are treading carefully.

It's interesting that this is essentially what all news would look like if we had a properly regulated media. Unfortunately, since social media came along, rumour conjecture and comment seem to now also be considered 'news'.
 
"And where is Capitol’s support for the kids who were murdered in that Manchester bonfire on 22 May 2017?"

Says the man who tried to make profit out of the Paris terrorist attacks with a song that had absolutely nothing to to with people in Paris. Morrissey, you have turned into something deplorable. I will always love the songs you have written for us, but this feels like a good time to check out.
 
I can assure you there is no conspiracy of silence around the Nottingham incident. The reason for the lack of information on the perpetrator is because it was clear from the outset that this is highly unlikely to have been a terrorist attack. What self-respecting terrorist launches a 'spectacular' at 4am? It's far more likely that this act has been perpetrated by someone experiencing a severe mental health episode. It would be far from the first time this has happened. Unfortunately, such is the world now that (as we see here) people immediately assume any such grisly incident is a terror attack. And THAT is why the media is being very careful what they say: A lot of people already presume it's a terror attack, the last thing you should do is encourage the narrow-minded idiots even more.

Google 'Eden Strang'. That offence was committed in 1999 but I guarantee you if it had happened now a whole bunch of people would assume it was a terror attack. These things (sadly) happen from time to time. It's not always the big scary Muslims.
I didn't mention terrorism in relation to the incident. Or Islam. You did. So you must be the bigoted Islamophobe here.
The mainstream media operate by attention management - don't pay attention to that, look over here, pay attention to this instead.
I chose my words carefully. I merely said that the mainstream media didn't say anything about the attacker. The story has basically dropped out of the news. Nothing to see here. The main political discussion show in the UK - Question Time - didn't mention it last night.
I wonder if the attacker had been white - would there have been such a silence about the attacker? Or such a reluctance to consider what the attack tells us about modern Britain? And how much more so, if the victims had been black.
It's hard to fit what happened in Nottingham into a narrative of white privilege. Maybe that explains the silence?
 
I didn't mention terrorism in relation to the incident. Or Islam. You did. So you must be the bigoted Islamophobe here.
The mainstream media operate by attention management - don't pay attention to that, look over here, pay attention to this instead.
I chose my words carefully. I merely said that the mainstream media didn't say anything about the attacker. The story has basically dropped out of the news. Nothing to see here. The main political discussion show in the UK - Question Time - didn't mention it last night.
I wonder if the attacker had been white - would there have been such a silence about the attacker? Or such a reluctance to consider what the attack tells us about modern Britain? And how much more so, if the victims had been black.
It's hard to fit what happened in Nottingham into a narrative of white privilege. Maybe that explains the silence?
The story has not dropped out of the news. It was the top story on the UK's three main news websites last night, and the vigil yesterday was covered live on Sky News and the BBC. The reason it wasnt on QT is twofold: One, an arrest has been made so the case is sub judice which means strictly speaking only the basic details can be reported (told you they were being careful with this one). And two, it's not a subject for QT as it's almost certainly nothing political. I mean, what question did you want someone on there to ask?
 
I think she might have understood the relative who has embarrassing political opinions problem. She just didn't have that relative running her website.
If there is such a difference between Morrissey’s and Sam’s political views why does Morrissey permit him to use Morrissey Central for this ideological signalling?

Not a rhetorical question
 
The story has not dropped out of the news. It was the top story on the UK's three main news websites last night, and the vigil yesterday was covered live on Sky News and the BBC. The reason it wasnt on QT is twofold: One, an arrest has been made so the case is sub judice which means strictly speaking only the basic details can be reported (told you they were being careful with this one). And two, it's not a subject for QT as it's almost certainly nothing political. I mean, what question did you want someone on there to ask?
You obviously know nothing about sub judice rules so please just stop now before you embarrass yourself. And you have made my point for me. Nothing to see here. Just some mad guy with a knife. Shit happens. All in a day. Pass the salt.
 
If there is such a difference between Morrissey’s and Sam’s political views why does Morrissey permit him to use Morrissey Central for this ideological signalling?

Not a rhetorical question

Because it's his nephew (likely both of them since we know it was Johnny Rayner who said the Manchester Bomb was Britain's 9/11). They'll be trying to spin it so it's ok & they could deflect his attention on to the emotionally deeply upsetting lies being written about him in the media. Now there's less of that they're deflecting on to the samey music the record companies are willing to promote.

Since Bonfire though - it's just too blatant. It's being shared by racist accounts again purely because of that very weirdly worded post on Central.

His career is over if Central doesn't stop doing it - so there's no harm in spelling it out to Morrissey if anyone can get past the gatekeepers.
 
Because it's his nephew (likely both of them since we know it was Johnny Rayner who said the Manchester Bomb was Britain's 9/11). They'll be trying to spin it so it's ok & they could deflect his attention on to the emotionally deeply upsetting lies being written about him in the media. Now there's less of that they're deflecting on to the samey music the record companies are willing to promote.

Since Bonfire though - it's just too blatant. It's being shared by racist accounts again purely because of that very weirdly worded post on Central.

His career is over if Central doesn't stop doing it - so there's no harm in spelling it out to Morrissey if anyone can get past the gatekeepers.
But Morrissey wrote the lyrics to Bonfire not SER. He then titled the album after it. If it is released, you do realise it will be the only published pop song like this in existence - a controversy to eclipse all previous controversies in Morrissey’s lyrical oeuvre.

I’ll admit that I struggle a lot with your posts because you will not even grant that Morrissey’s has made hard right overtures. There’s more to his politics than this - he’s an atypical person - but why is your defence grounded in intellectual gymnastics rather grappling with the imperfect but not entirely unpredictable situation where Morrissey has these opinions.

My comments are in good faith - I am just curious to understand your position.
 
"This song is new... It's about England's 9/11"
Morrissey: Bonfire debut, July 1, 2022.

"Following Britain's 9/11 abomination at the Manchester Arena, Miley was asked to take part in the Don't Look Back In Anger event, and she refused. I asked her why she had refused, and she said "I am not into all that."

Morrissey: "WHEN YOU ARE THE QUARRY", January 6, 2023.
FWD.
 
If you would like to understand why the album is not going to be released, take a look at Capitol CEO Michelle Jebelirer's Insta. It's a commercial for Woke Hypocrisy.
 
But Morrissey wrote the lyrics to Bonfire not SER. He then titled the album after it. If it is released, you do realise it will be the only published pop song like this in existence - a controversy to eclipse all previous controversies in Morrissey’s lyrical oeuvre.

I’ll admit that I struggle a lot with your posts because you will not even grant that Morrissey’s has made hard right overtures. There’s more to his politics than this - he’s an atypical person - but why is your defence grounded in intellectual gymnastics rather grappling with the imperfect but not entirely unpredictable situation where Morrissey has these opinions.

My comments are in good faith - I am just curious to understand your position.

Up until 2017 some journalists claimed he was right-wing but his politics were non-party political but on the left.

In 2017 it's an incredibly sudden shift. A couple of far right activists told me it was the Manchester Bomb that did it - but everything he says is too mixed for someone directly exposed to their propaganda.

From Central, 5 July 2021:

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It’s about the kids who were murdered, yes. We are not encouraged to look beneath the surface because it’s dark and hidden. But the song is anti-terror, and anyone who finds that offensive can only be devoid of personal morality. As your brother once said to me, the Manchester Arena Bombing was Britain’s 9/11. We should appreciate anyone who asks questions.

Edit: to add - there's nothing racist in the lyrics of Bonfire. All of the racist discourse surrounding it is coming from far right accounts & articles. And it's possible for someone to become radicalised online & be so steeped in propaganda videos that they think they're FACTS. Something that I doubt would happen to Morrissey as he waded through Mavis Nicholson interviews & clips of Candy Darling.
 
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You obviously know nothing about sub judice rules so please just stop now before you embarrass yourself. And you have made my point for me. Nothing to see here. Just some mad guy with a knife. Shit happens. All in a day. Pass the salt.
This comment is the riled response of a loudmouth who is out of his depth and knows it. It's a Trumpian response. You can sense this is a subject matter that I have knowledge of and you're rattled, so instead of going away quietly you've done Trump's trick of doubling down and accusing the other guy of being the one who knows nothing about it. Okay...

Sub judice means that once legal proceedings are active nothing can be reported that could potentially prejudice a trial. Proceedings become active when a person is arrested. This is a reason for it to be an inapproriate subject for QT because you cant have a bunch of people speculating about it on TV when there's someone under arrest.

And I said it happens from time to time, not that it was "all in a day". Why do you people who are irrationally afraid always feel the need to exaggerate to 'win' an argument?
 
This comment is the riled response of a loudmouth who is out of his depth and knows it. It's a Trumpian response. You can sense this is a subject matter that I have knowledge of and you're rattled, so instead of going away quietly you've done Trump's trick of doubling down and accusing the other guy of being the one who knows nothing about it. Okay...

Sub judice means that once legal proceedings are active nothing can be reported that could potentially prejudice a trial. Proceedings become active when a person is arrested. This is a reason for it to be an inapproriate subject for QT because you cant have a bunch of people speculating about it on TV when there's someone under arrest.

And I said it happens from time to time, not that it was "all in a day". Why do you people who are irrationally afraid always feel the need to exaggerate to 'win' an argument?
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NME & Far Out articles added to OP.
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