Morrissey Central "New keyboard player." (May 6, 2023)

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Camila Grey will play keyboards on the forthcoming Morrissey tour of Israel / Ireland / England.


No surprise.
FWD.



 
Well he wouldn’t say that, wouldn’t he?

Alain said ‘See you in Dublin’ in that same week, so his exit definitely wasn’t planned.

Incidentally this dneuer ‘dislikes’ this OP of the Camila announcement so he still seems very sour about the whole situation.
Definitely something specific happened, since the decision seems to have been pretty sudden. That doesn’t mean Alain (and Gustavo) didn’t quit though.

It would seem something happened with Jessie and Donnie Knutson. Which seems kinda odd since Alain had said in interviews how he had been getting along so well with everyone in the band (so Jessie included). But it seems something just happened…
 
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That said, Alain at least was in that situation for years with the Quarry songs so it would hardly have been a surprise to him.
I agree - I can't see the failure to release the new studio album promptly as an issue at all. If Alain and Gustavo walked by choice, then I suspect it's more likely to do with financial issues surrounding the current touring situation. Maybe they feel they've been lowballed with the offer for the next tour, or the money is being unfairly siphoned off by management etc (is Jesse getting paid extra for being 'musical director'?). Or maybe they just didn't get paid correctly for the last tour?

All wild supposition, but I just don't see the LP being in limbo as a big enough reason to walk.

Unfortunately due to NDA's, I expect we'll never get the full story.
 
It doesn’t seem like the other 2 members have confirmed their participation in the next tour. If they were confirmed to join, wouldn’t they be announcing the new band line- up at this point? So my reading is that there is at least one more hole that needs to be plugged.
As long as consent has been give I'm okay with holes being plugged.
 
It would seem the writing is on the wall. And Gustavo would make a great and sensible addition to the Whyte/Day/Cobrin/Gannon band, especially in the live setting.

If - and that's the operative word in the Morrissey camp these days - Without Music The World Dies sees the light of day, it will be very odd that two of the musical composers/players have since left the band. I think that's a first. Mark Nevin left after Kill Uncle, Alain left as a session guitarist after Ringleader and, with the pandemic's aid, Boz left after IANADOAC - but never two at once, if I'm not mistaken.

And it remains to be seen how Buckley's/Galeano's fates play out, but it could be released with all but one musician from the sessions remaining. Odd times.
But Alain left before YOR was released of which he was one of the main composers.
 
I agree - I can't see the failure to release the new studio album promptly as an issue at all. If Alain and Gustavo walked by choice, then I suspect it's more likely to do with financial issues surrounding the current touring situation. Maybe they feel they've been lowballed with the offer for the next tour, or the money is being unfairly siphoned off by management etc (is Jesse getting paid extra for being 'musical director'?). Or maybe they just didn't get paid correctly for the last tour?

All wild supposition, but I just don't see the LP being in limbo as a big enough reason to walk.

Unfortunately due to NDA's, I expect we'll never get the full story.
Not what dneuer has indicated. His post and likes point to some issue with Jessie/Donnie.

I would in any case doubt there could be much of a money problem with touring, they surely had an agreement in place already, how much could it have changed for the new dates that would prompt them to walk?
 
He privated his IG about 3wks ago.
Purged loads of followers - Alain & Gus are no longer following.
Juan, Jesse & Brendan remain following him.
FWD.
To clarify, and I can only speak of AW’s IG account, richard Petty not only blocked people from his personal account before taking it private, but also blocked some (including Alain’s) from the official Morrissey IG. One more thing to add to the list of things M is in the dark about. The kind of issue of how things are run that is at least partly to blame for why fans will be deprived of the services of AW & GMjr. As others have noted, the behavior is shameful. It’s my understanding that both Al & Gus are both on good terms with M to this day. Perhaps left with a sense of bewilderment over certain choices, but good just the same. Again, not putting words in their mouths. Just sharing how I interpret the situation based on what I know.
 
Yes, should have mentioned: official Morrissey IG has Alain booted and 4 remaining (oddly, SER isn't following the Morrissey acc either🤷).
Regards,
FWD.
 
All we need now is for Jesse and Donnie to kick Moz out of the band as well, and he'll be free to join up with Boz, Alain and Gustavo in a new project. :thumb:
 
This new band is going to look interesting.
 
I wonder who will leave next? Could be anyone but Jesse.

Correct. He's going to the grave with him.

Morrissey and Jesse have a very "Mr. Burns / Smithers" relationship. @dneuer

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To clarify, and I can only speak of AW’s IG account, richard Petty not only blocked people from his personal account before taking it private, but also blocked some (including Alain’s) from the official Morrissey IG. One more thing to add to the list of things M is in the dark about. The kind of issue of how things are run that is at least partly to blame for why fans will be deprived of the services of AW & GMjr. As others have noted, the behavior is shameful. It’s my understanding that both Al & Gus are both on good terms with M to this day. Perhaps left with a sense of bewilderment over certain choices, but good just the same. Again, not putting words in their mouths. Just sharing how I interpret the situation based on what I know.
Richard Petty? lol

If they're on good terms with M, maybe they could let him know about this. Seems like he should know.
 
It’s EVERYONE but Jesse.
Yes. Jesse has his hooks deeply in Morrissey. “I can be your one and only, Morrissey” As music Director (which is a joke) Jesse got rid of who he’s intimidated by and hired these two women. And there sits Moz, just sitting and watching. “ ok Duckie! Whatever makes you happy!” I don’t know where Morrissey wants to take his music, but this is not it.

It’s just like Morrissey to dump what's good, what works, has a good connection through the band and then take a maybe. I never ever thought I’d say this, but he’s being a complete idiot and it may really cost him. So sad.

Damn I miss Boz and I’m going to have to miss Alain all over again.

f*** you, Jesse Tobias. Please stop looking like you’ve just tasted something sour . It only disgusts me more.
 
All we need now is for Jesse and Donnie to kick Moz out of the band as well, and he'll be free to join up with Boz, Alain and Gustavo in a new project. :thumb:

That would be ideal.
 
Yes. Jesse has his hooks deeply in Morrissey. “I can be your one and only, Morrissey” As music Director (which is a joke) Jesse got rid of who he’s intimidated by and hired these two women. And there sits Moz, just sitting and watching. “ ok Duckie! Whatever makes you happy!” I don’t know where Morrissey wants to take his music, but this is not it.

It’s just like Morrissey to dump what's good, what works, has a good connection through the band and then take a maybe. I never ever thought I’d say this, but he’s being a complete idiot and it may really cost him. So sad.

Damn I miss Boz and I’m going to have to miss Alain all over again.

f*** you, Jesse Tobias. Please stop looking like you’ve just tasted something sour . It only disgusts me more.

LOL

How can you not love his chug-rock diarrhoea?!
 
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