Myles Hendrik Instagram: Morrissey, Guy Oseary and Andrew Watt photo (June 17, 2024)

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Older men with wide open shirts and heavy necklaces: it does not appeal to me. It's still the American Moz, not the 1 OZ UK Moz with nearly closed shirts.is

Is the person in your produile pic Alan W? it looks like Alan trying to his Moz impression
 
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I think it's from earlier this month as Charlotte Lawrence (Watt's girlfriend) has also posted photos from the party:
Although I initially thought it was an old photo as I didn't think Morrissey would still be hanging about with Andrew Watt and Guy Oseary. I assumed he had fallen out with Oseary following the Rebels Without Applause/'Bonfire Doused' debacle.

I can't remember who said it on here but a few people said they wish Moz stopped hanging out with these LA people, it cheapens him "vib" . I have to agree
 
yeah, one would think. But if he OK’d this atrocious video (below) then he probably doesn’t have a problem with people dressing up and having fun. I’m thinking he only would have left if the music was bad.

‘I’m so glad to grow older, to move away from those darker years’

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Moz has never been a prude even though that was the image. He had a good sense of things and knew good taste was important.
I think he has spent much too much time in LA mixing with the wrong people its that simple
Look how much better Brett from Suede or Johnny Marr or Paul Weller or Noel G, are doing, they make good music, growing old gracefully. Meanwhile, Moz who used to have bags of grace is hanging around with dirt bags. I mean its no wonder his music went downhill. when I saw the more recent pictures of him I thought brilliant he is getting back to the Moz of old, in the UK etc.
Now he's with all these cheap-ass LA people who hang with only fans rubbish. I know people say he doesn't care about what people think. but I think he does, i think he thinks having this image as being big in America means he is one up on the UK acts. Irs not true though, most Americans I know who really liked him have either gone off him or think he is nothing special. My American mates were way more excited about seeing Suede and Blur than Moz and are even more excited about seeing Pulp. Still I loves him
 
I can't remember who said it on here but a few people said they wish Moz stopped hanging out with these LA people, it cheapens him "vib" . I have to agree

The depressing thing about it is that the Los Angeles version of Morrissey used to be great, when he was befriending Nancy Sinatra, Elaine Stritch, and the Sparks brothers, and running into ex-members of the New York Dolls, and from Autobiography I got the impression he was a nerd for the seedy "Hollywood Babylon" underbelly of the glamour. He was a British expatriate artist in his element there, like Huxley and Isherwood.

At some point it seems to have taken a horrible turn, where his studio band is Red Hot Chili Peppers, his producer is this Watt turd, and he's in the Instagram feed of a pop-tart's birthday party with vacuous L.A. kids even Bret Easton Ellis couldn't make seem interesting.
 
Lol. Compared to them, you’re the one that’s being a turd here.

Well, you don't have to worry, I'm not the sort to stick around and routinely shit all over a Morrissey forum with a running commentary of how much I don't like Morrissey. It's just that this was the feather that broke the camel's back for me. Previously I was willing to make excuses or shrug off the occasional disappointment because I thought Morrissey was going to be endlessly interesting, as always, as he went fearlessly into his Norma Desmond/Howard Hughes phase.

But those occasional disappointments reached a point of critical mass. As it turns out and to my surprise, he stopped being interesting. To me, that is. Obviously you will disagree. Some people are going to take this train called Morrissey all the way to the end of the line, and that is fine. May the blessings of Allah be upon them. I thought I was going there, too, but not even the "rich elder gay look" is enough to save an appearance at a gimp-themed twenty-something birthday party, and this is my stop.
 
Well, you don't have to worry, I'm not the sort to stick around and routinely shit all over a Morrissey forum with a running commentary of how much I don't like Morrissey. It's just that this was the feather that broke the camel's back for me. Previously I was willing to make excuses or shrug off the occasional disappointment because I thought Morrissey was going to be endlessly interesting, as always, as he went fearlessly into his Norma Desmond/Howard Hughes phase.

But those occasional disappointments reached a point of critical mass. As it turns out and to my surprise, he stopped being interesting. To me, that is. Obviously you will disagree. Some people are going to take this train called Morrissey all the way to the end of the line, and that is fine. May the blessings of Allah be upon them. I thought I was going there, too, but not even the "rich elder gay look" is enough to save an appearance at a gimp-themed twenty-something birthday party, and this is my stop.
When i consider you to be one of the few people here who’s generally not a complete buffoon and who clearly has the ability to think and discern better than so many posters here who just continue to pollute the ether with their typing and who have the ability to do exactly neither of those things, it was crazy and shocking to me the first time i saw you slap the howard hughes/norma desnond insult around. Since then, you’ve done it several more times.

While anyone is entitled to their own opinion, the fact that this revolting and condescending insult is what you bring here, and also what you take away for yourself, from a man who has clearly impacted your mind and your sensitivities in positive ways on so many occassions and on so many levels, through so many of his songs and words, over so many decades; really shows this place to me even MORE clearly, for the cesspool that it truly is.

It’s like, if this is what comes from you, there is less than zero chance for all the other usual regulars who come here, to not eventually show their own even uglier sides.

I probably shouldn’t have quoted you because this is an observational comment, and not one that i want a reply to or wish to discuss - only for the reason that it doesn’t interest me further in the least, but I can’t be bothered to delete the quote now, so whatever.

Under different circumstances, i might think to myself or say “I’m sorry you feel this way” but i don’t know what those different circumstances would have to be, because I’m not sorry for other people’s opinions or statements at all

And the world moves on.
 
Back to the most PRESSING main topic here at hand - has this gorgeous photo of him been pinned IN PERMANENCE to the top of the front page yet? If not, why not? o_O

I neeeed this Mozzy in permanence! In the flesh. Photo will do, for now!
 
When i consider you to be one of the few people here who’s generally not a complete buffoon and who clearly has the ability to think and discern better than so many posters here who just continue to pollute the ether with their typing and who have the ability to do exactly neither of those things, it was crazy and shocking to me the first time i saw you slap the howard hughes/norma desnond insult around. Since then, you’ve done it several more times.

While anyone is entitled to their own opinion, the fact that this revolting and condescending insult is what you bring here, and also what you take away for yourself, from a man who has clearly impacted your mind and your sensitivities in positive ways on so many occassions and on so many levels, through so many of his songs and words, over so many decades; really shows this place to me even MORE clearly, for the cesspool that it truly is.

I know you don't want to discuss it, but just for clarification: the "Norma Desmond/Howard Hughes" thing wasn't intended as an insult. For me, it signifies someone who completely detaches from convention and mundane success (looniness optional, but eccentricity desired). I think I've compared Morrissey in a similar vein to Greta Garbo as well as one of my absolute favorites, Syd Barrett. Barrett held so much mystique for me when I was young, in those pre-internet days when rarities and bootlegs and snippets of gossip could cultivate a genuine cult of enigma. Morrissey has always had that quality for me, too, impressively even while still being an active artist. It seemed like he was becoming truly impenetrable, reclusive, and aloof for a while there, and I saw that as a kind of positive. What I'm trying to say is, I love a funeral for a pet monkey. Norma Desmond probably wouldn't cavort with giggly young scenesters because she'd think they didn't deserve her, and she'd be right. I don't think they deserve Morrissey either, but that choice is his.
 
Moz has never been a prude even though that was the image. He had a good sense of things and knew good taste was important.
I think he has spent much too much time in LA mixing with the wrong people its that simple
Look how much better Brett from Suede or Johnny Marr or Paul Weller or Noel G, are doing, they make good music, growing old gracefully. Meanwhile, Moz who used to have bags of grace is hanging around with dirt bags. I mean its no wonder his music went downhill. when I saw the more recent pictures of him I thought brilliant he is getting back to the Moz of old, in the UK etc.
Now he's with all these cheap-ass LA people who hang with only fans rubbish. I know people say he doesn't care about what people think. but I think he does, i think he thinks having this image as being big in America means he is one up on the UK acts. Irs not true though, most Americans I know who really liked him have either gone off him or think he is nothing special. My American mates were way more excited about seeing Suede and Blur than Moz and are even more excited about seeing Pulp. Still I loves him
Even for Americans, California is a very different place than the rest of the country, it's like it's own country, if that makes sense. Many people feel they could never live there for the exact reasons you are stating, it's very vapid, the people are vapid.
 
I know you don't want to discuss it, but just for clarification: the "Norma Desmond/Howard Hughes" thing wasn't intended as an insult. For me, it signifies someone who completely detaches from convention and mundane success (looniness optional, but eccentricity desired). I think I've compared Morrissey in a similar vein to Greta Garbo as well as one of my absolute favorites, Syd Barrett. Barrett held so much mystique for me when I was young, in those pre-internet days when rarities and bootlegs and snippets of gossip could cultivate a genuine cult of enigma. Morrissey has always had that quality for me, too, impressively even while still being an active artist. It seemed like he was becoming truly impenetrable, reclusive, and aloof for a while there, and I saw that as a kind of positive. What I'm trying to say is, I love a funeral for a pet monkey. Norma Desmond probably wouldn't cavort with giggly young scenesters because she'd think they didn't deserve her, and she'd be right. I don't think they deserve Morrissey either, but that choice is his.
Ok, well, understooo. All I can say then is, to each their own. I have been around here on and off and in various guises for more years than I care to remember or to admit, and in that time i have watched everybody here, and all those who came before, call him anything and everything under the sun, accuse him of anything and everything in the universe, make up things, repeat things that weren’t true, invent things, and back to insults of every variety for every day of the year and back again, through to interminable sniggering and “liking” of other posters also equally idiotic comments and insults towards him. And in the context of all of that as the backdrop, to me, the howard hughes/norma desmond comment was i thought, one of the most obscene that i’ve seen being thrown at him around here, yet.

It’s a truly revolting, abysmally derisive, and abominable comparison. When anybody says something along the lines of “so and so is in their howard hughes/norma desmond phase”, it boggles my mind how that could be said without meaning to convey all of the most degrading and most stomach-turning facets of each of those two individuals demises.

There is nothing neutral, or charming, or quaintly eccentric about howard hughes or norma desmonds respective downward spirals. They are not exclusively, or even primarily, associated with innocuous reclusively - as it appears to me that you’re saying now would be one of the main reasons you mentioned them.

They are associated with rampant alcoholism, with extreme drug abuse of the most destructive kinds, with psychotic paranoia, with other kinds of abuses and proclivities, and with grotesquely frightening, devolving horror-show clown caricatures of their former selves which invited nothing but horror and ridicule from audiences, from their former fans, and from anyone and everyone who even looked in their directions.

With everything Morrissey already has been and will continue to be called, I very rarely if ever get into any kind of contradictory back and forth with anyone to defend him over things that he’s gets insulted with - first because if anyone wanted to do that it would be more than a full time job. Second, because i consider the people who make the kinds of comments i’m talking about to not even be worth the shortest retort from me, let alone anything else. It’s like by proxy below even Morrissey, for anyone to be engaging with the level of cretinism of here even in defense on his behalf. But the howard hughes / norma desmond thing was truly one of the worst, to me.

You’re certainly allowed to say whatever you want. And i do accept your comment at absolute face value that somehow you don’t think it was even an insult at all. I’m sure there will be any number of people here who will also agree with you. I’m just not one of them.
 
One of the “goofy attention-whore twentysomethings” in the pictures is Finneas, Billie Eilish’s brother/producer/co-writer (Billie Eilish currently has 98 million monthly Spotify listeners— #3 in the world). If Morrissey gets invited to carouse with these people I don’t see why he should decline; it’s probably in his benefit to be there. Attending a party with the producer of the 3rd most listened to artist in the western world is a better use of his time than sitting around looking at the television in a 5* hotel room, and moping.
 
I am horrified that Morrissey is hanging out with a friend of Kaia Gerber, which probably means he is hanging out with Kaia Gerber. He is almost 70, this makes him look lecherous and desperate.
 
Can you imagine someone getting lucky with Morrissey at that party? Up to the room but by the time he takes off all the jewelry you'd be asleep.

Either that or he keeps it on and it would like f***ing a wind chime :lbf:
 

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