Morrissey interview + Polaroid photo in German Spiegel magazine

"Ich bin für Klartext" - Spiegel Online

(Excerpt before paywall via Google Translate)

Morrissey's worldview "I'm for plain text"

"Morrissey praises the Brexit referendum, defends Kevin Spacey and calls Berlin a "rape capital" because of its open borders. seriously?"

Whether the Briton Steven Patrick Morrissey, 58, a musician just Morrissey calls, now Genius is or Schrat, self-actor or choleric poet, will probably never settle final. Certainly the man from Manchester, who became famous in the eighties as a singer of pop band The Smiths, is a great eccentric of pop. Whether concert or interview, he maintains the pose of the diva. The meeting took place on the occasion of his new album "Low in High School" in Los Angeles; It was arranged at very short notice and then postponed several times, domination gestures want to be maintained. After all, Morrissey is ready to talk. However, the photographer is referred by one of his managers rude of the room: "Get out of my hotel!" The Polaroid photo was taken by the interviewer.

An interview with Juliane Liebert

SPIEGEL: Mr Morrissey, in your new song "Spent the Day in Bed", you recommend that you no longer see any news. A serious proposal?

Morrissey: Yes. People should stop doing so for their own sanity. You have to stop. The news is just social engineering, and it's about control, not information. There are no more messages. Only control.

SPIEGEL: That sounds like Trump's fake news, but you just spoke out against Trump at a concert.

Morrissey: Trump has received so much attention, especially when compared to other candidates - Bernie Sanders, for example. Although the media said he will not win, every day, all the headlines: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump! The American media helped Trump, yes, they first created it. Whether they criticize him or laugh at him, he does not care, he just wants to see his picture and his name. The American media have shot themselves in the leg. Since he was in power, he has exhausted the world. He grabs after everything like a little child. He is not a leader. He is a vermin. A huge vermin.

SPIEGEL: Do you think that he will be re-elected?

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Full transcript (Google Translate to English), original German text posted by Cornflakes

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Media coverage:

• Morrissey Defends Kevin Spacey, Calls the Accusations Against Him ‘Ridiculous’ - IndieWire. Link posted by No1uno.
  
• Morrissey Defends Kevin Spacey And Harvey Weinstein, Saying Victims Should’ve Known What Could Happen - Stereogum. Link posted by an anonymous person.
• Morrissey had some dumb shit to say in defense of Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein - Consequence of Sound. Link posted by Famous when dead.
  
• Morrissey Appears To Victim Blame Those Allegedly Sexually Abused By Kevin Spacey And Harvey Weinstein - UPROXX. Link posted by Famous when dead.
• Morrissey calls Kevin Spacey claims 'not credible' in latest attempt to say something controversial - International Business Times. Link posted by Brummieboy.
  
• Morrissey comments on Hollywood sexual abuse scandal, says some victims are 'just disappointed' - The Independent. Link posted by an anonymous person.
  
• Shirley Manson (Garbage) Attacks Morrissey For Defending K.Spacey & H.Weinstein - Alternative Nation - Nov. 19, 2017
  
• Morrissey defends Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein - BBC News. Link posted by Famous when dead (original post). Excerpt:
  
  The BBC contacted Morrissey's representatives for a response to Der Spiegel's report, but were informed he would not be making any further comments.
  
• UK politician Leanne Wood weighs in Morrissey position over Spacey accusations - Nov. 20, 2017
  
• Morrissey's fans are not happy about his Kevin Spacey comments - mic.com - Nov. 21, 2017
  
• Morrissey says Der Spiegel last print interview he will do; suggests words weren't said - Nov. 26, 2017
• Morrissey: I'd Kill Donald Trump for the 'Safety of Humanity' - Breitbart, NME, Washington Times - Nov. 27, 2017
  
• Juliane Liebert (Der Spiegel interviewer): "The recording [of the interview] is available" - Nov. 28, 2017
• Morrissey statement: "The Slander System" (via FB Morrissey Official) - Dec. 11, 2017
• Der Spiegel audio "to be released in the next days" - Juliane Liebert tweet - Dec. 11, 2017
• Der Spiegel audio file of Morrissey interview released - Dec. 12, 2017
  
• "Oh Sigh" - Morrissey Central posts link to Der Spiegel fraudulent journalist Claas Relotius - Dec. 20, 2018
  
• styxhexenhammer666 video on Der Spiegel journalist fraud - link posted on Morrissey Central - Dec. 23, 2018
  

 

[Anonymous]

Source......

Pretty sure that that quote was always referred to as being in hearsay, but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[countthree]

I agree with much of this, although I’m not sure what Europe has to learn from societies where winding your headdress on the wrong way might get you an AK47 shoved up your arse.

The problem in Europe is not immigration it is the current pace of immigration. The German electorate clearly aren’t all that enamoured with Merkel at the moment, as only c. 33% of them supported her in the recent election and she is still almost two months later trying to form a coalition government. And they say Theresa May is weak.

The AfD gained the thick end of a hundred seats. Interestingly, as an aside, had the UK had PR Ukip would have had over eighty seats in 2015. That support has ebbed away after Brexit and the resignation of Farage, but again, clearly many of the the electorate grabbed the chance to kick the EU to the kerb by the lapels and in many cases immigration was a major consideration.

Precisely the pace of immigratin is one of the aspects of the process of immigration. The territorial distribution of immigration is very important, too, at least in the first stages.

You would surprise, but we always have something to learn from others. There aren't people so wise that they have nothing to learn from others, nor people so ignorant that have nohing to teach. Being powerful, rich or successful doesn't mean you know it all and vice versa. There are another human realities where those symbols of power mean nothing.

 

[Flibberty]

Morrissey going on about Trump, after he supported his European allies, and their ideology, has become the most ridiculous, gymnastic political reasoning that I have seen from any public figure. He's actually exhibiting cognitive dissonance as some kind of performance art.

At this point, he needs a mental health check.

"The clock on the wall, makes a joke of us all."

Sorry, but the idea that everyone who supported Brexit (or UKIP) must also support Trump is insane. Completely different situations.

 

[Anonymous]

Legally, yes. It fits the definition. The 14 year old was legally a child. It is entirely inappropriate to lie on top of a 14 year old boy. It's hardly banal. If a priest or teacher did it, would you think it was 'banal'? Seriously?

Ancient Greek society was based around men lying on top of 14 year old boys. Would you like to go back there in a time machine and arrest them all? Human sexuality is grey - not black and white. My guess is the average jury would not convict if the Rapp case ever made it to court which doubtless it wont. The law is really bad in such cases. Did Spacey know he was 14? Was he doing his best to look the same age as his 17 year old friend? Yes much better to let an employment / disciplinary process take place in the case of a priest or a teacher where there is a breach of trust or code of conduct. Not least because such processes go on balance of probability. But the criminal law is really not good in such cases of drunken / inappropriate behaviour. Spacey has become a scapegoat / bogeyman. If we expel him from society then our kids can walk the streets in peace again. Whilst statistically the average 14 year old has most to fear from their father or uncle...not a queer movie star.

 

[ninetimesfined]

I agree with what Morrissey says about Brexit. Whether the outcome is good or bad it was a rare instance of democracy actually working. The then-administration even threatened WW3. The BBC, Sky News and all of the other outlets broadcast totally biased stories - the establishment blacked out any sort of Leave sentiment. He’s not really ever said that he’s pro British EU exit just that it was a rare instance where the people held the power. Morrissey is not a racist he’s a socialist. He’s not anti immigration either. Julian Cope holds very similar views and he’s regarded
as a massive lefty.

 

[Cornflakes]

Sorry, but the idea that everyone who supported Brexit (or UKIP) must also support Trump is insane. Completely different situations.

Not sure who has made that suggestion. But Morrissey's worldview seems to be good match for that of many Trump supporters in a fair number of respects. It's not very clear why he wouldn't be an enthusiast for him.

 

[Mick Jagger]

 

[Morrissey_Sucks]

Racist. Dispicable. Fool.

 

[Flibberty]

Not sure who has made that suggestion. But Morrissey's worldview seems to be good match for that of many Trump supporters in a fair number of respects. It's not very clear why he wouldn't be an enthusiast for him.

No. Firstly because I have never heard Morrissey speak up for many of the things that Trump clearly stands for. For example, big business, massive military spending, climate-change denial etc.

And even for the issues that Morrissey (and many others) have mentioned as problematic such as immigration or Muslim terrorism, there is a world of difference between sharing concerns about those things and supporting the idea of walls or total bans on people from specific countries.

 

[Anonymous]

The interview went well until he called Berlin "the capital of rape".

In one word, populism

He now speaks like a Fox News commentator... it seems so

 

[Cornflakes]

No. Firstly because I have never heard Morrissey speak up for many of the things that Trump clearly stands for. For example, big business, massive military spending, climate-change denial etc.

And even for the issues that Morrissey (and many others) have mentioned as problematic such as immigration or Muslim terrorism, there is a world of difference between sharing concerns about those things and supporting the idea of walls or total bans on people from specific countries.

But he has no trouble supporting Trump's European equivalents (Farage, Le Pen, Ann-Marie Whossheagain) who do support those things and also support Trump. What makes Trump different from them in Morrissey's eyes?

 

[Anonymous]

But he has no trouble supporting Trump's European equivalents (Farage, Le Pen, Ann-Marie Whossheagain) who do support those things and also support Trump. What makes Trump different from them in Morrissey's eyes?

Trump is anti-Mexican immigration. And Morrissey has a large Mexican fanbase, so he likes them.
That's the difference.

 

[Flibberty]

But he has no trouble supporting Trump's European equivalents (Farage, Le Pen, Ann-Marie Whossheagain) who do support those things and also support Trump. What makes Trump different from them in Morrissey's eyes?

Well no, what you're saying isn't true and is waaay too simplistic.

The people that you've mentioned (Farage and Le Pen) don't even agree with each other, so the idea that anybody who might support them must agree with a completely different politician is obviously false.

 

[g23]

Xenophobia, rape apologism, etc.

This is getting very tough to listen to.

 

[ninetimesfined]

But he has no trouble supporting Trump's European equivalents (Farage, Le Pen, Ann-Marie Whossheagain) who do support those things and also support Trump. What makes Trump different from them in Morrissey's eyes?

With respect I don’t remember reading anything saying Morrissey supports any of these politicians. He did say he has respect for Farage but that’s not a massive indictment of support. You may have read something that I haven’t. Sources, please

 

[AztecCamera]

Trump is against illegal immigration not just Mexican illegal immigration and so was every other US president before him. On Mexico's border with Guatemala Mexican soldiers stand guard and have orders to shoot to kill anyone crossing into their country illegally. Quite different than the USA. Steve did nothing to market to the Mexicans, they just started liking him in California, so Steve capitalized on it and it helps that he lives in the city that has the most Mexicans in the USA.

 

[ACTON]

Intelligent cows? All a cow can do is eat grass and make emissions all day. Not exactly up there with brain surgery.

If intelligence was a factor in who lives or dies then a lot of people here would be in trouble. Cows deserve to live, regardless of our idea of what intelligence means.

 

[ACTON]

I have been a fan for 30 years. I will not buy this new album. I will not go to see any new concerts. I find this man now to be out of touch and, to put it kindly, misinformed. I'm done. Adiós, pinche Morrissey, me rompiste el puto corazón.

You sound fairly fickle. It's a good album. 'Home is a question mark', 'Jacky', 'Spent the day', 'When you open your legs', and 'Israel' sound especially great to me. I think the new album is his best since Ringlicker.

 

[Anonymous]

Steven is a seeming mega-perv. It is one thing to defend the activities of groupies and musicians in the 1970s (many groupies are, indeed, "bone collectors", hot-to-trot and highly masculinized chicks collecting hot stories, fulfilled fantasies and...genital cankers. Such is life). But to defend legendary boyhunter Kevin Spacey? That's just the Sodomite Society gathering their musky wagons. Fourteen year olds are SO geeky. Let's face it: there are men AND women who want to "turn out" a kid. There must be some evil sensory payoff. Who knows? But Kevin Spacey is just so gross. Kevin has looked the part of the warped, horny, sinister old queen for years. The sensitive yet deadly Steven of old would have made mincemeat of Kevin Spacey for being an avatar of elite indulgence and predation. But no more! Because, it seems, Steven's personal life seems, via hint and lyrical suggestion, to be rather sleazy. What a DRAG

 

[Harsh Truth]

Wow.