'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics - The Guardian

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'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics - The Guardian
The former Smiths singer’s new album features guest spots from Billie Joe Armstrong and Grizzly Bear’s Ed Droste. Are they not put off by his increasingly unpleasant right-wing stance?

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As US music magazine the Fader asked: “What possible reason could any of these people have for lining up behind Morrissey now?”

Droste declined to comment. The only artist willing to speak with the Guardian was Canadian vocalist Ariel Engle, who performs with cult indie outfit Broken Social Scene. She received a call from the American producer Joe Chiccarelli asking her to contribute backing vocals for a cover of Joni Mitchell’s Don’t Interrupt the Sorrow. “I thought, ‘Oh the Smiths, sure’,” she says. “It was $500 for two hours’ work.”

Engle says she didn’t become aware of Morrissey’s political views until the album was announced and a friend emailed to question her involvement. “It’s a very weak argument to claim ignorance,” she says, “but it is my argument. It’s not an excuse but it happens to be the truth.”

Morrissey’s manager, Peter Katsis, says he is unaware of statements made by any guest vocalists, but that the intention of the covers album was supposed to be fun. “This is where his head is at,” he says. “Maybe enough has been said with the last few albums being political.” Of Morrissey’s political views, Katsis says: “I manage his artistic career and sometimes I have to deal with things he says, but it’s not for me to comment.”

Chiccarelli echoes Katsis’s sentiment. “I can’t speak to Moz’s politics,” he says. “I’m a record-maker. I’ve known him 10 years and he’s been a gentleman and a pleasure. I consider him a friend.” When asked about the far-right figures for whom Morrissey has expressed support, Chiccarelli says: “I’d really have to research it and see if it crossed a particular line for me.”

Engle says that learning of Morrissey’s political opinions has left a “bad taste”, and that she stands in opposition to his views. “The inflammatory things he says are not my politics. I think he’s completely out of line. I grew up around multiculturalism and I am the product of multiculturalism and immigration. I feel like I’ve been had, but it’s my fault.”

The American singer LP offered a statement through a PR representative: “As I’m a huge fan of his music and poetry, I was honoured to be asked to collaborate on the album.” Representatives for Lydia Night of California band the Regrettes offered no comment, but the 18-year-old told punk magazine Kerrang!: “I’ve grown up loving the Smiths – my cat’s name is Morrissey!” Representatives for Armstrong said he was in the studio and therefore unreachable.

The guest stars on California Son are all North American, suggesting a difference between perceptions of the former Smiths frontman in the US and UK. Katsis, who is American, sees the critical focus on Morrissey’s politics as a British preoccupation.

“I don’t think they know enough about it to care about it,” he says of Morrissey’s US fans. “I don’t feel knowledgable enough to comment on British politics, therefore it’s probably not as important to me or the international fans as it is to UK fans. This whole thing has had me perplexed. The subjects are very complicated and dividing.”

The figures bear out Morrissey’s enduring support across the Atlantic. He ended 2018 with arena shows in North and South America, and has announced his first Canadian tour in 20 years for this April. In November 2017, Los Angeles City Council declared 10 November “Morrissey Day”.

“In America, he tends to be seen as the rock star who sang about queer life and spoke openly about feminism when nobody else did,” says Rolling Stone critic Rob Sheffield. “These two images define him, and he’s still seen in terms of his pioneering place in history. His grumpy old age is not really held against him. Americans tend not to follow UK politics very closely, so when he makes mind-blowingly offensive statements there might be outrage or humiliation for a few days, or hours, but then it’s back to listening to The Queen Is Dead”.




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of course I'm not perfect, have come long way since I was a kid or even a young man, while Moz and some of you lot here?
well, dont know what happened but you seem to have regressed, its a shame, but all too common, my main feeling about it is honestly feeling sorry for Moz and the like more than anything else, all this reactionary garbage is just a hick up and anyways, right wing white based racism will be bred out of existence no matter what. whether its a century or 2 or whatever
but the Western Ideals, you do a great disservice to them by attaching them monstrous things like fascism and the like :tears:

Of course racism will disappear. So will free thought - and eventually so will opinion itself.

This will happen very soon when all the borders are opened and we are living in a beige cashless one-government world... you need to start reading your David Icke mate, you're well behind.
 
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of course I'm not perfect, have come long way since I was a kid or even a young man, while Moz and some of you lot here?
well, dont know what happened but you seem to have regressed, its a shame, but all too common, my main feeling about it is honestly feeling sorry for Moz and the like more than anything else, all this reactionary garbage is just a hick up and anyways, right wing white based racism will be bred out of existence no matter what. whether its a century or 2 or whatever
but the Western Ideals, you do a great disservice to them by attaching them monstrous things like fascism and the like :tears:

Keep in mind this is all coming from a guy who during his time on this site has harassed his ex wife, hit on underage girls, bullied underage kids, threatened to murder people and followed a female member of this site after a Morrissey concert.
 
Keep in mind this is all coming from a guy who during his time on this site has harassed his ex wife, hit on underage girls, bullied underage kids, threatened to murder people and followed a female member of this site after a Morrissey concert.
you do know right that when you post anything dude, the first thing anybody reads is who posted it and your legend as a liar and troll here exceeds even mine dear VH :blushing:
 
Keep in mind this is all coming from a guy who during his time on this site has harassed his ex wife, hit on underage girls, bullied underage kids, threatened to murder people and followed a female member of this site after a Morrissey concert.
Sounds like f***ing Ryan Adams.
 
you do know right that when you post anything dude, the first thing anybody reads is who posted it and your legend as a liar and troll here exceeds even mine dear VH :blushing:

That isn’t a denial, though, is it Robby?

You know as well as I do that everything I just said is still here as posts on this forum. Most of which I still have screencaps of. Tell me I’m foolin’.
 
But they might think it's some kind of Nazi site?

Be good though when they start digging and out a number of people who may have good jobs, (Vegan the burger flipper and Aztec the car park attendant won't need to be concerned) as racists.
 
Be good though when they start digging and out a number of people who may have good jobs, (Vegan the burger flipper and Aztec the car park attendant won't need to be concerned) as racists.

Who didn’t see that one coming? f*** off c***.
 
You hiss and you moan and you constantly groan.... You roll your eyes up to the skies. Haven't we all seen it. You don't like what it means. There's so much destruction all over the world.
 
Be good though when they start digging and out a number of people who may have good jobs, (Vegan the burger flipper and Aztec the car park attendant won't need to be concerned) as racists.
That's you in the shit then. Because as a Moz fan a lot of peeps out there think all Moz fans are racist now...

As for me I couldn't give a toss.
 
Imagine Robby in the real world bumping into muslims and him telling them he served for the american army and what they would do to him. His world view would crash in an instant.
People like him never live in the real world.

Alarming for the army to know what kind of political view he has and maybe someone should report that and have it looked into.

I think he was a spy that made sure american soldiers got killed. I wonder how much money he made from it and which terror muslim paid him for the info.

There will be more news on this as I get it.
 
You’re not even on my radar, Urban. Never will be.
This time it wasn't him asking and something tells me he is not that bothered about you reading his posts about you. Didn't you burst onto the scene here when he took a break?

Cannot stand a little competition?

Is TAT spreading them for you yet?
 
That isn’t a denial, though, is it Robby?

You know as well as I do that everything I just said is still here as posts on this forum. Most of which I still have screencaps of. Tell me I’m foolin’.
you do what you gotta do man, lying, exaggerating, twisting, altering screens, thats your bag still?
great, but some of us actually change as we get older, honestly dude, other than my always feeling the ever smaller amount of bad because of how I treated you oh so many years ago and whatever part that played in turning you into this sick, twisted shell of a person now, I suppose some part of me will always feel bad about that, though you make it harder to as you basically remain a total piece of shit, by choice it seems
but f*** man, ur a grown up, time to move on
and maybe while your at it and not hate people because of the color of their skin, what god they worship or don't, their accent, their sexual orientation, gender or whatever :rolleyes:



ps: whatever you or your racist right wing buddies continue on with, no offense meant, but im done feeding trolls like you for a while :straightface: take care :thumb:
 
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