GQ: "A$AP Rocky Is the Prettiest Man Alive" - Morrissey reportedly features on new A$AP Rocky album (May 19, 2021)


"Two new important creative partners are likely to be found on All Smiles. The first is Morrissey.


Morrissey! Rocky, it turns out, is a huge fan, and he's been working remotely with the Pope of Mope over the past year. The former Smiths frontman has been writing, producing, and contributing vocals to the new record, Rocky says. 'Anything you need him to do, he show up and do.'"



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Just been reminded of this horror!!! State of Jared. 🙄


"Just cos he writes about gayness and gay issues, doesn’t mean he drives up the Marmite motorway, or, for that matter, allows someone to drive up his.

And just because I use euphemisms for anal love that can be interpreted as being derogatory by the self -righteous and the PC brigade DOES NOT mean I’m homophobic.

"It’s just that I prefer to believe the David Bret advocated stance that sez Stevie took a vow of celibacy when the girl he fancied at college (I think her name was Anne Marie?, ‘Half a Person’ was about him chasing a look a like of her) died of cancer

And, no, before anyone accuses me of being a homophobe, I’m not. I just think that this story is much more poignantly romantic than fudge packing Jake or anyone else in a casual manner and I don’t want such a lovely vista to be spoilt.”
This is the first time, but here goes “WTF”?
 
Just been reminded of this horror!!! State of Jared. 🙄


"Just cos he writes about gayness and gay issues, doesn’t mean he drives up the Marmite motorway, or, for that matter, allows someone to drive up his.

And just because I use euphemisms for anal love that can be interpreted as being derogatory by the self -righteous and the PC brigade DOES NOT mean I’m homophobic.

"It’s just that I prefer to believe the David Bret advocated stance that sez Stevie took a vow of celibacy when the girl he fancied at college (I think her name was Anne Marie?, ‘Half a Person’ was about him chasing a look a like of her) died of cancer

And, no, before anyone accuses me of being a homophobe, I’m not. I just think that this story is much more poignantly romantic than fudge packing Jake or anyone else in a casual manner and I don’t want such a lovely vista to be spoilt.”
He does seem to like our man though? Can he immediately take control of the party?
 
Just been reminded of this horror!!! State of Jared. 🙄


"Just cos he writes about gayness and gay issues, doesn’t mean he drives up the Marmite motorway, or, for that matter, allows someone to drive up his.

And just because I use euphemisms for anal love that can be interpreted as being derogatory by the self -righteous and the PC brigade DOES NOT mean I’m homophobic.

"It’s just that I prefer to believe the David Bret advocated stance that sez Stevie took a vow of celibacy when the girl he fancied at college (I think her name was Anne Marie?, ‘Half a Person’ was about him chasing a look a like of her) died of cancer

And, no, before anyone accuses me of being a homophobe, I’m not. I just think that this story is much more poignantly romantic than fudge packing Jake or anyone else in a casual manner and I don’t want such a lovely vista to be spoilt.”
Marmite motorway .... how very romantic.....
Imagine asking for it like that when your full of ale.....
 
I wonder if Morrissey will be a better at rapping than Bernard Sumner? Sounds like we need Quilloughby 2: The Rap Years
 
Since he actually talked about rap & included a track in his show - whereas he's never said or done anything that would imply he's interested in optics - I'm on steadier ground than you are.
Sure, but Morrissey could wear a red shirt and you'd spend 100 posts explaining how it's actually blue. Mentioning Fear of a Black Planet in response to an inquiry about rap is like being asked about rock and roll and saying "Oh yeah, I love The White Album."
 
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No, actually. Day off tomorrow, but bender on Friday. To be honest, it felt like really hard work tonight. This has never happened since the age of 13.
Interesting... I had a few pals at mine about 2 weeks ago...
And they found it all hard work and left quite early....
I’m drinking his Bacardi that he left now 🤣🤣🤣
 
Has morrissey ever said anything negative about rap. I don’t recall him talking about it much. Would love to see Morrisseys voice used as a sample in a death grips song
 
Has morrissey ever said anything negative about rap. I don’t recall him talking about it much. Would love to see Morrisseys voice used as a sample in a death grips song

From the January 1993 issue of Rock Sound.

Q: In "Panic", you denounce the vacuousness of dance music. What do you think of rap "music"?

M: I don't consider it music. It's just conversation. There's no melody and when there's no melody I have problems.

Q: It may not be your cup of tea but unlike rock, isn't it the only music which, to pick up your phrase, "talks to black people about their lives"?

M: Probably, but I can't prevent myself from being disturbed by some of its aspects. All this speech of superiority and the male chauvinism it carries. And then I really don't think it's a rich, new music. It's the degree zero of music. I know that what I'm saying sounds really corny or old-fashioned, but I'm struck by the fact that it's enough for a rap group to break itself laboriously on a song with thinnest of melodies to make people call it a work of genius and hail the song to the pantheon of classics. I know as well that the same speech has been held about punk. Except that punk didn't last. It had the virtue to bring us The Ramones and, above all, to revitalize rock and shake the system. On the contrary, rap never fails to repeat itself. It must be assumed that its only use is to sort out the swingers from the fuddy-duddies. Blokes who suffer while listening to rap just because they're scared to death not to be hip - I see some everyday! Sorry, but I'd rather be corny.
 
From Spin's 1988 interview around the release of Viva Hate:

Morrissey became the hero of the lonely, the disenfranchised, the outsider, speaking, some might even say singing, for the loners who hated being alone but couldn’t stand the company of others. Viva Hate, his first solo effort, continues his railings against brutality, ignorance, British Prime Minister and Dog Lady Margaret Thatcher, and the world of pop music, a world he claims has been “infiltrated by idiots,” dismissing rap music and hip hop as “pop thuggery, a great musical stench, very offensive, artless and styleless, remarkably illiterate.”
 
Sure, but Morrissey could wear a red shirt and you'd spend 100 posts explaining how it's actually blue. Mentioning Fear of a Black Planet in response to an inquiry about rap is like being asked about rock and roll and saying "Oh yeah, I love The White Album."

You've made something up in your own head while trying to explain away something Morrissey said.

He was wasn't asked about rap. He was asked about politics & America. It's not his style, but he listens to it & thought it worth mentioning. So if the right project came along - something that needs his kind of singer - then why wouldn't he be interested?

Alternative Nation: You’ve talked about American politics quite a bit before, but your music focuses on politics in the UK and that region. Do any politically-charged songs made in America really connect with you and bring your spirit into this country?

Morrissey: Of course there has been a great deal of rousing political songs about the American condition … most famously Buffy Sainte-Marie singing “Moratorium”, Bob Dylan’s “The Time’s they Are A-Changin’”, Edwin Starr singing “War”, Joni Mitchell singing “here in good ol’ God Save America / the home of the brave and the free / we are all hopelessly oppressed cowards “… bits of Melanie Safka I thought were very cutting, Phil Ochs, Billie Holiday singing Strange Fruit … and of course I’m not inspired by rap but I can see how ‘Fear Of a Black Planet’ or ‘Mamma, Don’t You Think They Know?’ jumps ahead with everything Nina Simone was doing with ‘To Be Young, Gifted And Black’… I think rap has scared the American white establishment to death, mainly because it’s true. James Brown once sang “Say It Loud, I’m Black And I’m Proud”. No pop artist would ever be allowed to say that today … they’d be instantly dropped from the label. If Billie Holiday approached Capitol Records in 2015 they wouldn’t entertain her for a second. Also, yes, I feel that I bring my spirit to America, and I feel very much a part of it and I’ve played in most cities big or small. America has been so important to my musical life, and the audiences have always been incredible. I’ve always felt privileged even though I know I’ve been locked out of mainstream considerations. That’s life! Me and Billie Holiday, good company, at least. (June 2015)
 
From the January 1993 issue of Rock Sound.

Q: In "Panic", you denounce the vacuousness of dance music. What do you think of rap "music"?

M: I don't consider it music. It's just conversation. There's no melody and when there's no melody I have problems.

Q: It may not be your cup of tea but unlike rock, isn't it the only music which, to pick up your phrase, "talks to black people about their lives"?

M: Probably, but I can't prevent myself from being disturbed by some of its aspects. All this speech of superiority and the male chauvinism it carries. And then I really don't think it's a rich, new music. It's the degree zero of music. I know that what I'm saying sounds really corny or old-fashioned, but I'm struck by the fact that it's enough for a rap group to break itself laboriously on a song with thinnest of melodies to make people call it a work of genius and hail the song to the pantheon of classics. I know as well that the same speech has been held about punk. Except that punk didn't last. It had the virtue to bring us The Ramones and, above all, to revitalize rock and shake the system. On the contrary, rap never fails to repeat itself. It must be assumed that its only use is to sort out the swingers from the fuddy-duddies. Blokes who suffer while listening to rap just because they're scared to death not to be hip - I see some everyday! Sorry, but I'd rather be corny.

He's slagged everything including The Ramones.

It doesn't prove your bizarre idea that he's suddenly decided to do something for the optics despite him saying nothing about doing it.
 

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