Being critical of the things that other people say or do on a public message board is valuable in its own right,
Ok, I could agree with that to some degree.
whether the object of criticism is, or isn't, aware of the criticism.
Now there I don’t agree. I believe there is a difference. And I know you give some reasons to why that it may be valuable for some to continually criticize Morrissey, but it still doesn’t make sense to continually post negative opinions every time they disagree with Morrissey and go on and on about it. Say it once and move on, let it go and don’t bring it up again two days, two weeks, two months, two years or more later, just let it go. We know who they are, we know how they feel about Morrissey, it’s clear, just let it go.
And they still haven’t explained why they do it and it seems they never questioned themselves to why they do it, which is why I’ve been asking and offering up at least one reason, but it seems they don’t want to take my reason into consideration or offer up any reason to why they do it and have a civil conversation about it. They basically just shutdown any conversation by labeling me or seeing me as a ‘mozbot’ and so are in that way saying that I’ll never understand why they get triggered by Morrissey’s actions or why they have to continually over and over again vent by posting their opinions about his actions or behavior. But the truth is, I’m asking because I want to understand rather than just come up with my own reasons to why they do what they do, which wouldn’t be fair to do so.
I don't suppose it's Surface's, or anybody else's, intention to communicate with Morrissey in order to change him.
Fine. But he hasn’t answered why he does it.
I would guess that he and other people who criticise Morrissey care about the things he says and they want their to be a record of their opinions.
Interesting. And why would they want there to be a record of their opinions do you think?
If this leads some other people to be a little less slavish in their adoration of Morrissey,
really? Is that such a harmful trait?
Well, if my posts in this thread and elsewhere lead some people to be a little less hateful and look inside themselves to ask themselves why they bother continually posting the kind of negative criticisms that they do, then I’m glad I can be of help to them. Lol.
and if it encourages people to engage their critical faculties, then that's a welcome bonus.
Yes, I’m trying to encourage that here. I think it may be working. I mean, thank you for joining the conversation.
Again, I don't know what Surface actually thinks, but it's pretty clear that he isn't saying he thinks it's okay to be critical of Morrissey because Morrissey is critical of other people.
But don’t you think that it’s wrong or even hypocritical for Surface or anyone to see Morrissey criticizing someone, say that it’s wrong to do so, and yet he or they will come on here and do the same thing? That is, criticize someone else,
and not just once or twice, but continually. Do you think that’s right? Is it healthy? Who does it benefit? and in what way? Do two wrongs make a right?
He's saying that you see nothing wrong with Morrissey criticising other people, but challenge people who criticise Morrissey to, at least, provide what you think counts as an unassailable rationale for their criticism.
Well, he sees wrong. He seems to see that just because I don’t criticize Morrissey that must mean I’m giving Morrissey a free pass for his actions. No, and the reason I don’t criticize, I already explained in my first post to you.
He's pointing out that you hold the people who post here to a different standard to that which you apply in Morrissey's case. He's correct.
Sorry, he’s not. Just because I don’t continually criticize Morrissey does NOT mean I hold Morrissey to a different standard. I already said as much and explained to you why I don’t continually criticize or bother to criticize him in my other post to you. I do hold different standards, more or less, to artists than to non-artists and to people that I know personally and strangers as far as having opinions on them, that’s if I care to in the first place or feel that having an opinion at all benefits me or someone else, it usually doesn’t.
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