Dickiefelton.com: "Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts" (January 3, 2025)

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Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts.


If you are going to stage concerts in two iconic Los Angeles venues you’ll need posters that match the magnitude of the occasion.

And Morrissey turned to a designer sat in a box-room in Hertfordshire to create the visuals for his trio of end-of-year shows.

Sam Mabbitt was tasked with coming up with posters for the shows at United Theater and Hollywood Palladium.





Ironbridge interview.
FWD.
 
Those emails are so unnecessary to bring up, really. It's just painful crap that should be kept back in place so that one can move forward - which really is f***ing possible, thanks.
Painful? :lbf:
 
It's really not 'cool' to be a Morrissey fans here and you don't get any 'social credit' for it.
You are actually quite right about that. It’s very ‘uncool’ to be a Morrissey fan. It’s always been like that , the type of people looking for social credits were never really fans. But I’m glad I’m one.
 
You are actually quite right about that. It’s very ‘uncool’ to be a Morrissey fan. It’s always been like that , the type of people looking for social credits were never really fans. But I’m glad I’m one.
I have no choice but to be a fan. I just can’t help it. He’s got me hook line and sinker. There’s no me without him. I’m laughing, but it’s true.
 
I guess no one ever taught you that sometimes we have to put mistakes and/or misfortunes behind us in order to grow and move forward. I'm so sorry for you. Maybe if they had, you wouldn't have turned into the hateful online bully that you are.

If Morrissey were capable of "growth" and able to "move forward" from his mistake, he would've agreed to remove the non-entity that is Miley Cyrus from his record and got it released, ages ago.

Also, if Morrissey was unable to move forward he wouldn't have lasted this long. He is capable of more than you'll ever know or give him credit for.

These days, he seems capable only of alienating people and not much else. God knows - as do we - that he can't write song lyrics anymore.

What even is the point of Morrissey, either as an entertainer or as a person, in 2025? He's utterly redundant now.
 
So the designer didn’t get paid in 2018 for something he designed, but he did get paid for this? He is an English teacher doing side gig quick and dirty graphic design work with no design education specifically?

I studied design, specifically architecture, but the university I attended required overlap in the design disciplines. Upon seeing the Tina D. & Wendy Wu posters the first time, it looked amateurish and efficient ( we have seen those photos before). While not professional, they are very personal. To Morrissey himself. Is that why they were chosen? Does he like his appearance? The way he is interacting with the ladies? What were they saying to each other? What was the context? It just seems very personal, a good time being had.

I looked at those two posters and thought “Hmm, why those?”, prone to over-analyzing, but eventually giving up getting hung up on them because. . . They are personal, maybe nostalgic, maybe some significance we can never know unless we were party to what was happening. I thought the font was familiar but fresh enough. Just something about those poster choices seemed extremely personal, maybe an inside meaning. And that did come off a bit negative as a”you’re not really in on the joke or the fun.” A little exclusive. Like you would just walk on by those people who looked like they could only be comfortable with themselves. And critically, it’s not like they look super cool. . . There’s no fantasy going on in those photos. Those photos are real. So they are not even really inviting you to join them. The people in them seem like they’re enjoying themselves together but you’re not invited, but you don’t really care. The photos used just seem to capture a real memory for Morrissey that has meaning to him. And I’m good with that. Maybe Morrissey just wants to seem more real, less of a stage image. Is it iconic imagery? I personally don’t find it iconic.

Now, the backdrop stage image definitely has more going on and has the iconic going on. Something about the spacing on the font (“with”) placement and size drives me nuts though. I wish the designer had made “with” a bit smaller for some reason. “With” being slightly smaller would have put more emphasis on the other lines. As for color, it works fine, and sounds like it needed to be produced quickly. The color captures a lively spirit with humor.

Sometimes designers are fine producing work that can help build their portfolios. I can see how some fans/people here are bothered by the grassroots tendencies going on and think Morrissey deserves slicker marketing. It certainly all remains authentic at least.

Business stuff with Morrissey, whether he is a real jerk, I don’t know, but most people aren’t just one thing. I don’t feel like wasting too much breath on that, but I definitely will get long winded over the posters/graphic work.
 
So the designer didn’t get paid in 2018 for something he designed, but he did get paid for this? He is an English teacher doing side gig quick and dirty graphic design work with no design education specifically?

I studied design, specifically architecture, but the university I attended required overlap in the design disciplines. Upon seeing the Tina D. & Wendy Wu posters the first time, it looked amateurish and efficient ( we have seen those photos before). While not professional, they are very personal. To Morrissey himself. Is that why they were chosen? Does he like his appearance? The way he is interacting with the ladies? What were they saying to each other? What was the context? It just seems very personal, a good time being had.

I looked at those two posters and thought “Hmm, why those?”, prone to over-analyzing, but eventually giving up getting hung up on them because. . . They are personal, maybe nostalgic, maybe some significance we can never know unless we were party to what was happening. I thought the font was familiar but fresh enough. Just something about those poster choices seemed extremely personal, maybe an inside meaning. And that did come off a bit negative as a”you’re not really in on the joke or the fun.” A little exclusive. Like you would just walk on by those people who looked like they could only be comfortable with themselves. And critically, it’s not like they look super cool. . . There’s no fantasy going on in those photos. Those photos are real. So they are not even really inviting you to join them. The people in them seem like they’re enjoying themselves together but you’re not invited, but you don’t really care. The photos used just seem to capture a real memory for Morrissey that has meaning to him. And I’m good with that. Maybe Morrissey just wants to seem more real, less of a stage image. Is it iconic imagery? I personally don’t find it iconic.

Now, the backdrop stage image definitely has more going on and has the iconic going on. Something about the spacing on the font (“with”) placement and size drives me nuts though. I wish the designer had made “with” a bit smaller for some reason. “With” being slightly smaller would have put more emphasis on the other lines. As for color, it works fine, and sounds like it needed to be produced quickly. The color captures a lively spirit with humor.

Sometimes designers are fine producing work that can help build their portfolios. I can see how some fans/people here are bothered by the grassroots tendencies going on and think Morrissey deserves slicker marketing. It certainly all remains authentic at least.

Business stuff with Morrissey, whether he is a real jerk, I don’t know, but most people aren’t just one thing. I don’t feel like wasting too much breath on that, but I definitely will get long winded over the posters/graphic work.
He frequently revisits this period of his life, which makes it appear to have been a significant one. It almost feels like he yearns to return to a time when he was happy.
 
If Morrissey were capable of "growth" and able to "move forward" from his mistake, he would've agreed to remove the non-entity that is Miley Cyrus from his record and got it released, ages ago.



These days, he seems capable only of alienating people and not much else. God knows - as do we - that he can't write song lyrics anymore.

What even is the point of Morrissey, either as an entertainer or as a person, in 2025? He's utterly redundant now.
The f***ing nerve of you. You’re a disgusting old man insulting a singer who has more talent in his little finger and who can and has achieved more in 5 minutes than you ever could in 10 lifetimes, and you come here to berate and insult not only him, but posters and fans who are likely 30 years younger than you - if not more - oh my god get a f***ing life you underachieving jealous total weirdo. You’re the redundant waste of space here. For your clarity.
 
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As does most of the art from World Peace until yesterday.
Agreed. YOR was the last album to at least have a professional looking layout. The covers for LIHS and World Peace are not only hideous but make no sense and Dog on a Chain looks like some cheap bootleg...
 
The f***ing nerve of you. You’re a disgusting old man insulting a singer who has more talent in his little finger and who can and has achieved more in 5 minutes than you ever could in 10 lifetimes, and you come here to berate and insult not only him, but posters and fans who are likely 30 years younger than you - if not more - oh my god get a f***ing life you underachieving jealous total weirdo. You’re the redundant waste of space here. For your clarity.
You're feverishly defending someone who has no idea who you are.
There's no need. He's a grown man.

Those emails are so unnecessary to bring up, really. It's just painful crap that should be kept back in place so that one can move forward - which really is f***ing possible, thanks.

Painful for you? You need to get a grip on the hero worship. Especially when affects you like that.
 
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Agreed. YOR was the last album to at least have a professional looking layout. The covers for LIHS and World Peace are not only hideous but make no sense and Dog on a Chain looks like some cheap bootleg...
True about YOR. Remember when he spent 2010-13 dicking around with his catalog? I liked some of the singles, but it was weird when he totally redid Kill Uncle and Southpaw. World Peace and LIHS are shockingly bad. The back cover of California Son is the Joker 2 of his current design sensibilities.
 
You're feverishly defending someone who has no idea who you are.
There's no need. He's a grown man.



Painful for you? You need to get a grip on the hero worship. Especially when affects you like that.
Scintillating! Has anyone ever told you that you’re absolutely scintillating? No. Of course they haven’t. Should we all wait for you to keep trying?
 
Painful for you? You need to get a grip on the hero worship. Especially when affects you like that.
Hi Dallow - long time no see. Hope you are well.

IT was PAINFUL for him. The whole thing. From MC to Capitol. It was awful and I think it really caused him a lot of turmoil. I just want things to work out for Moz, that's all. I am excited for the new music, so...that's why my hero worship is off the charts, but then, it has been for nearly 40 years now, so why stop here?
 
Since most musicians don't understand the difference between a song and its recording, and the rights that accompany each, I of course wouldn't expect the usual lazy thinkers like thewilsgordygaszoom to understand.

Most people here are sleeping and do not want to believe.

Once a song is released as a recording, anyone on earth can cover it either live or recorded, provided the licenses are paid. That’s why Moz didn’t have to ask Jobriath for permission to record and play Morning Star Ship live. It’s how Boz would have been able to release his covers LP even had there been a falling out with M.

When anyone plays a cover live, the venue pays a BMI/ASCAP/SEAC a license, which makes its way back to the songwriters. Venues pay blanket licenses to these societies. No premisson from the songwriters is needed. Some venues don't pay these fees, which is why backstage you will see a "no covers" sign.

If you wanna record and release it, that’s easy as well. You just have to pay a mechanical license fee, which is set by Congress. If you wanted to press up 500 45’s of your bands cover of Suedehead, you can, and Morrissey will get his ~$60. Put it on Spotify and he will get his cut as well.

The master recording of a song is usually owned or controlled for a period of time, by a record label. Anyone who wants to sample the actual master recording must ask permission from the rights holder and negotiate a fee for its use. This requires permission.
Appreciate you clarifying all this @Odmke. Thank you!

Now a weird question. From the above, it is clear that if, by any bizarre chance, Morrissey ever wanted to cover a Marr song, he could.

But what if he wanted to change the lyrics? I take it he couldn't do this? Or could he do it slightly and get away with it?
 
True about YOR. Remember when he spent 2010-13 dicking around with his catalog? I liked some of the singles, but it was weird when he totally redid Kill Uncle and Southpaw. World Peace and LIHS are shockingly bad. The back cover of California Son is the Joker 2 of his current design sensibilities.
Ohh I forgot about that atrocity! It looks like a preschool crayon drawing.
 
The f***ing nerve of you. You’re a disgusting old man insulting a singer who has more talent in his little finger and who can and has achieved more in 5 minutes than you ever could in 10 lifetimes, and you come here to berate and insult not only him, but posters and fans who are likely 30 years younger than you - if not more - oh my god get a f***ing life you underachieving jealous total weirdo. You’re the redundant waste of space here. For your clarity.
This is what a "disgusting old man" looks like.

As for the "talent" in Morrissey's "little finger" and what he can "achieve" with it in five minutes, I couldn't care less how efficiently he relieves little Damon's micropenis.

Incidentally, do you suppose Morrissey makes Damon wear a cage? (Thread idea? Poll?) Certainly seems like the kind of thing he'd do.

Anyway, dear: relax. None of this stuff matters to actual people.
 
This is what a "disgusting old man" looks like.

As for the "talent" in Morrissey's "little finger" and what he can "achieve" with it in five minutes, I couldn't care less how efficiently he relieves little Damon's micropenis.

Incidentally, do you suppose Morrissey makes Damon wear a cage? (Thread idea? Poll?) Certainly seems like the kind of thing he'd do.

Anyway, dear: relax. None of this stuff matters to actual people.
Yabba yabba yabba! Nope. It’s definitely you.
 

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