Dickiefelton.com: "Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts" (January 3, 2025)

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Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts.


If you are going to stage concerts in two iconic Los Angeles venues you’ll need posters that match the magnitude of the occasion.

And Morrissey turned to a designer sat in a box-room in Hertfordshire to create the visuals for his trio of end-of-year shows.

Sam Mabbitt was tasked with coming up with posters for the shows at United Theater and Hollywood Palladium.





Ironbridge interview.
FWD.
 
No, he didn’t, but it’s indicative of how he treats people, from Andy and Mike to this designer. Read the leaked emails, in it he gives away how *he* thinks artist should be treated, ie. “he who must be obeyed”. He thinks he does no wrong. You people know who Scott and Pete manage? You think these managers are all wildly competent with their other world class clients, but are suddenly incompetent boobs when in comes to Morrisseys career?

Why is it so hard for you all to acknowledge that he is both an amazing, world class artist and also, an amazing world class douchebag?
I don't know who Scott and Pete manage, no. I have no idea who they are, and I have honestly never kept up with names when it comes to who manages Morrissey. I can't even remember the last guy's name.

Yes, I've read that Morrissey is difficult to work with - I see the posts, the stories, the many labels he's been in and out of. I don't know what he is demanding from these labels. What is it, Odbmke? You must know. As much as you talk about him, and as much as you take all of this so personally, you must know what he wants and needs in a contract for it to thrive. What is it that he's asking for that's considered too much? What do you mean he wants to be obeyed? Is that because he doesn't bend to anyone's rules? If he was on the verge of a contract (was it from Sun?) what was it that made him decide against it? Did he elaborate? Don't you have a recording of that zoom session? What happened to all the proof you were going to show us? I'm not asking you this to be a bitch. I'm asking because I'm seriously interested in what you have to show because it doesn't matter what Morrissey does, it is always wrong in your eyes. You have completely demonized him.

As far as Andy and Mike - Morrissey wasn't the only one who was in on that deal. Johnny had his hands in there as well. What kind of person does that make him? We, as people, who we are fundamentally at the core - that does not change. We grow. We change in likes and dislikes, but we are fully formed in character by a very young age. So, if Morrissey is bad, then so is Johnny.

Please don't ask me to look shit up. Just explain it here and now and I won't ask you again.
 
I'm asking because I'm seriously interested in what you have to show because it doesn't matter what Morrissey does, it is always wrong in your eyes. You have completely demonized him.
to be fair, he has only ever criticized all that he has done AFTER Morrissey burned down the label deal and his working relationship with Galli -- and it's not hard for one to assume that ODB has done so because he knows as well as any other intelligent one of us, that Moz has no better option and just f***ed himself and his career into oblivion.
 
to be fair, he has only ever criticized all that he has done AFTER Morrissey burned down the label deal and his working relationship with Galli -- and it's not hard for one to assume that ODB has done so because he knows as well as any other intelligent one of us, that Moz has no better option and just f***ed himself and his career into oblivion.
Yes, well, I've only ever noticed him AFTER all of this happened. Multi, with all due respect, I wish to keep optimistic about Morrissey and his future. I feel that somewhere something will happen. I have not lost faith and if that makes me the dumbest person here, then so be it.
 
Yes, well, I've only ever noticed him AFTER all of this happened. Multi, with all due respect, I wish to keep optimistic about Morrissey and his future. I feel that somewhere something will happen. I have not lost faith and if that makes me the dumbest person here, then so be it.
it only makes you the dumbest person if your optimism overrides your critical thinking skills.

Morrissey has no other option. he is literally blacklisted in the UK. Capitol is gone and there is no one that is going to offer him a future album deal or a buyout offer for his past catalog like was put together by Galli -- as detailed by ODB.

Morrissey is going to have to accept a lot less than he was being offered through Galli/Sun if BOT and any new albums are ever going to see the light of day -- and getting the previous albums bought out from BMG will likely be impossible.
 
No, he didn’t, but it’s indicative of how he treats people, from Andy and Mike to this designer. Read the leaked emails, in it he gives away how *he* thinks artist should be treated, ie. “he who must be obeyed”. He thinks he does no wrong.
Oh the problem with these images is even worse than that. He is so entitled that no one is safe any more. He's so focused on being an "artist" that he forgot how to be a man.

Imagine, if you would be so kind, driving home after a long day. And spotting a billboard of you and your ex. Sure, an ex you're friendly enough with. But you know he's using you. Still. After you've been apart for so long. After you hardly ever asked for anything. Now imagine you're someone... well, let's go with "less useful." Let's imagine you are someone less useful and you're watching how he is treating her. There are no longer any rewards for loyalty. If the man you cared for ever really existed, he is gone.
 
Oh the problem with these images is even worse than that. He is so entitled that no one is safe any more. He's so focused on being an "artist" that he forgot how to be a man.

Imagine, if you would be so kind, driving home after a long day. And spotting a billboard of you and your ex. Sure, an ex you're friendly enough with. But you know he's using you. Still. After you've been apart for so long. After you hardly ever asked for anything. Now imagine you're someone... well, let's go with "less useful." Let's imagine you are someone less useful and you're watching how he is treating her. There are no longer any rewards for loyalty. If the man you cared for ever really existed, he is gone.
How’s he treating her? Is he taking advantage of her? If I were in her shoes, I’d be flattered. Are you the one who’s upset with his treatment of her? By putting her on a billboard and then posting it on his website with the title “LOVE IS ON ITS WAY IN,” by writing glowing accounts of her in his autobiography, and then dedicating it to her? No one in his life, past or present, has ever been treated with such respect and reverence.
 
So Morrissey just steals this guys art, and then he is still just happy to work for Morrissey?

So many people want to be near fame that they will allow themselves to be walked all over. After enough years go by, the only people still around them have no backbone to speak of. And will wear whatever t shirt they are told to wear and issue whatever statement they are asked to issue.

“SM: In 2018 I was at the last night of Morrissey’s tour after following it down from Aberdeen. I noticed that one of my forays into Photoshop (Hollywood High School ‘Low in High School’ picture) had been used for the price tags on the merch stand.”
The photo he used for the price tags didn’t belong to this guy. He hadn’t obtained permission from the photographer to use it. If you’re upset with Morrissey for using his minimal Photoshop work on a photo that didn’t belong to this person without permission, you should also be angry with this “designer” for using the photo without permission. The rights to the image are not publicly available.
 
The photo he used for the price tags didn’t belong to this guy. He hadn’t obtained permission from the photographer to use it. If you’re upset with Morrissey for using his minimal Photoshop work on a photo that didn’t belong to this person without permission, you should also be angry with this “designer” for using the photo without permission. The rights to the image are not publicly available.

Original image:
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Photoshopped version used on price tags:
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I don't know who Scott and Pete manage, no. I have no idea who they are, and I have honestly never kept up with names when it comes to who manages Morrissey. I can't even remember the last guy's name.

Yes, I've read that Morrissey is difficult to work with - I see the posts, the stories, the many labels he's been in and out of. I don't know what he is demanding from these labels. What is it, Odbmke? You must know. As much as you talk about him, and as much as you take all of this so personally, you must know what he wants and needs in a contract for it to thrive. What is it that he's asking for that's considered too much? What do you mean he wants to be obeyed? Is that because he doesn't bend to anyone's rules? If he was on the verge of a contract (was it from Sun?) what was it that made him decide against it? Did he elaborate? Don't you have a recording of that zoom session? What happened to all the proof you were going to show us? I'm not asking you this to be a bitch. I'm asking because I'm seriously interested in what you have to show because it doesn't matter what Morrissey does, it is always wrong in your eyes. You have completely demonized him.

As far as Andy and Mike - Morrissey wasn't the only one who was in on that deal. Johnny had his hands in there as well. What kind of person does that make him? We, as people, who we are fundamentally at the core - that does not change. We grow. We change in likes and dislikes, but we are fully formed in character by a very young age. So, if Morrissey is bad, then so is Johnny.

Please don't ask me to look shit up. Just explain it here and now and I won't ask you again.
You might consider not projecting your issues onto me. You are the one who seems to be taking the fact that our hero is also a record deal-less dick, personally. I still had a great time at the show in November!

All the proof you need of M being a professional twat is in Scott’s leaked emails, dontcha think? Maybe before typing next time, take a second to google who else they manage and process what I said about how is it these people could be competent for artists from Smashing Pumpkins to Paul McCartney, but then morons when it comes to Moz.

If Morrisseys own email leaked by his own manager aren’t enough for you, what proof from me would you find sufficient?Screenshots of people you know on Zooms? Of the fanclub site? Emails of my own?

Hahahaha.
 
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to be fair, he has only ever criticized all that he has done AFTER Morrissey burned down the label deal and his working relationship with Galli -- and it's not hard for one to assume that ODB has done so because he knows as well as any other intelligent one of us, that Moz has no better option and just f***ed himself and his career into oblivion.
I wasn’t here criticizing Moz from 1997-2023 because he hadn’t fully blown up his career until recently. I had been seeing all the signs of decline since ~2012 just like everyone else, but I never really thought too much about it because he always was able to have a deal and get music out. It wasn’t until the truly bizarre Miley situation, followed up by the awful decision to attempt two YATQ 20 arena shows that I became actually concerned about WTF was going on behind the scenes. Then I had the chance to be involved directly earlier this year, and saw behind the curtain. Imagine what I saw that made me reach the conclusion that there was zero downside to talking about all this publicly.

I also have a very different perspective than most here, in that music is my business… which is exactly why incompetent “music business-ey” things like his handeling of the Miley situation are especially annoying to me. I worked in the Capitol Tower from 00-02, so when Morrissey incites fans to harass staff there, it hits a bit different to me.

He brags about having done this for 40 years, yet perpetually behaves like an inexperienced, wet behind the ears 18 year old who just signed their first deal, “because it would help me 700%.”

That said, I understand how people not in the industry think things must be fine since shows are happening.
 
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That's a weird take! He's obviously a huge fan, so why not grab the chance to work with your idol if you want to?
I'm not sure why you think it's a weird take, everything he said is fecking balls to wall right
If M went to any design team, he would be charged for doing his art
Do you think Joe Slee worked for nish?
M is taking advantage of his fans here. It's one thing to be happy M
Likes your work, its another thing to let him steal it
I think he did the right thing and paid for the poster art ?
 
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Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts.


If you are going to stage concerts in two iconic Los Angeles venues you’ll need posters that match the magnitude of the occasion.

And Morrissey turned to a designer sat in a box-room in Hertfordshire to create the visuals for his trio of end-of-year shows.

Sam Mabbitt was tasked with coming up with posters for the shows at United Theater and Hollywood Palladium.





Ironbridge interview.
FWD.

Who is Dickie Felton ?
 
You might consider not projecting your issues onto me. You are the one who seems to be taking the fact that our hero is also a record deal-less dick, personally. I still had a great time at the show in November!

All the proof you need of M being a professional twat is in Scott’s leaked emails, dontcha think? Maybe before typing next time, take a second to google who else they manage and process what I said about how is it these people could be competent for artists from Smashing Pumpkins to Paul McCartney, but then morons when it comes to Moz.

If Morrisseys own email leaked by his own manager aren’t enough for you, what proof from me would you find sufficient?Screenshots of people you know on Zooms? Of the fanclub site? Emails of my own?

Hahahaha.
You see, those emails, to which I do not care to look up and pour over again, really didn't say THAT much. Especially pertaining to what questions I aimed at you. So, still, you are just hammering on and saying nothing, and you couldn't even be civil about it.

Okay. Keep blithering away...
 
And this fully grown adult seems not to have a problem with Morrissey having stolen his work originally, and pleased to have the subsequent chance to do some freelance work for him.I

As fecking usual, I think people are at crosswires
I agree if the fan is happy that M used his work, without giving credit or a paycheck
Then that is up to them. The posters don't mean much to M, it's marketing, but
it may mean a lot to this dude

If this guy's hobby is making pretend fan posters and LP overs using images that
he himself didn't create, as well as an artist's brand, all in order to get himself
noticed and get likes. Then, you can't really cry when one of the artists, you are
using comes back and thinks "I'll have that. Thank you very fecking much "
So many people use M to make money, including record companies, and fans with these podcasts. people selling fake John Hancocks, selling stories. doing DJ nights.
Some try and climb aboard and make a career on his back. Jake, Sam, James Maker, and Kristeen Young have all tried. It's only really worked for Jake, because he has talent and is a London lad, and knows how to hustle. Having known Jake back in the Canden days, I can say he is way sharper than M, as well. He's a bit like Johnny, loads of contacts and shit

Then we have all these people in the USA, who try and be cool and get social credit by being a M/Smiths fan.
We all know who they are, you speak to them and they know jack shite about M and his reference points, it's all about being popular on M's back

The funny thing is, that creating M-type lp overs and posters is so easy. Americans do it
not having any idea of the cultural worth of most of M's icons he uses
At least this dude is fully in the know about Coronation Street and the rest
Most yanks just think "That's cool M likes this, let's do this and get likes from his fans "
The guy did a fecking cracking job with the posters as well. So good for him. It's funny
because it show's even an amateur who does this as a hobby is still much fecking
better than Sam, who tried to be in charge of this shit. It really does show how
completely untalented Sam is. It's no coincidence that M is using a new photographer
and has a new person on board for imagery, I said this would probably happen
now his mother is dead. You can imagine him thinking
"Mother is dead, offload that fecking simp of a nephew "LOL

The thing is though mate, as an artist should you use your fanbases as free labour?
He knows full well, a lot of these people have feck all in their life beyond making fake
videos and pretend marketing, that is what it is, it's not fecking "Art".
He knows he can use them to do the work, he would usually have to pay a company for.
Is he clever, to do what he is doing or is he taking the piss?
It depends on your moral point of view and M liked to pretend his morals were above
your average human. Didn't Sam also try and put his name on someone else's photos on
M Central?

If M didn't pay or give the dude anything for the "poster art" I think that is pretty bad, but if he did or at least gave the dude a credit and free tickets to his gigs, then what is the fecking issue?
 
You see, those emails, to which I do not care to look up and pour over again, really didn't say THAT much. Especially pertaining to what questions I aimed at you. So, still, you are just hammering on and saying nothing, and you couldn't even be civil about it.

Okay. Keep blithering away...
If you don't want to look things up, it's not anyone's job to spoon feed it to you. The emails said a lot, whether you want to recognzie it or not, so go take a look at them if you want answers and then compare them to everything Morrissey said about the record deal and Miley, there are plenty of threads about it right here.
 
Then we have all these people in the USA, who try and be cool and get social credit by being a M/Smiths fan.
It's really not 'cool' to be a Morrissey fans here and you don't get any 'social credit' for it. People are fed up with him here too or he'd be playing bigger venues.
 

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