Dickiefelton.com: "Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts" (January 3, 2025)

Sitting In My Stevenage Overspill Creating The Posters For Morrissey’s Los Angeles Concerts.


If you are going to stage concerts in two iconic Los Angeles venues you’ll need posters that match the magnitude of the occasion.

And Morrissey turned to a designer sat in a box-room in Hertfordshire to create the visuals for his trio of end-of-year shows.

Sam Mabbitt was tasked with coming up with posters for the shows at United Theater and Hollywood Palladium.

"SITTING IN MY STEVENAGE OVERSPILL CREATING THE POSTERS FOR MORRISSEY'S LOS ANGELES CONCERTS" - Dickie Felton

"Seeing how quickly the dates were approaching, I knew I should get my skates on...." Designer Sam Mabbitt on working with Morrissey for his Los Angeles shows

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Ironbridge interview.
FWD.

 

[Redacted]

It works fine. Art is art. f*** Morrissey for doing what he wouldn’t have done to himself.

You have to know there are people here who are not smart enough or educated enough to understand the comparisons you are making. like sampling a song is not really the same as covering a song. Soho did get permission to use the sample in Hippie Chick. How does anyone know people are or are not not getting permission from Morrissey or the copyright holder to cover his songs? SER copyrights everything, but Morrissey steals and no some people would not consider it an honor to have their work stolen.
And think about how Morrissey violated his agreement to not disclose it was Miley on the vocals, because he thinks he can do whatever he wants, and he then lost permission to use them.

 

[suburbanskies]

Agree to disagree - I still don't think your comparison works at all.

Here's another way of looking at it: if the internet had existed in 1972, and 13-year-old Moz had uploaded an image he'd made of Lou Reed, and Lou spotted it and used it on a t-shirt or drumhead or poster, do you think Morrissey would have been thrilled, or livid that Lou had stolen his art?

The guy who made the posters (and many more) is a fully-grown adult, with male-pattern hair loss and a job as teacher to boot, so show me the correlation here, please. Do you make all of your analogies while huffing glue?

 

[gashonthenail]

If my band sampled Jim Jim Falls without permission, how do you think Morrissey would react?

I did say you were funny. The fact you're in a band and are giving Morrissey career advice is hilarious.
And as for mentioning business ethics and etiquette...are you here all week?

 

[Dorothy]

Interesting interview. I think he did a great job. Hopefully he gets some more to do

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

That's a weird take! He's obviously a huge fan, so why not grab the chance to work with your idol if you want to?

Ever since Morrissey walked away from manager Pete Galli, Odbmke is butthurt he didn’t get a chance to work with his idol Morrissey.

 

[The Wild Turkey]

Yeah, been seein' these Ironbridge
art pieces for awhile now.
Used to like the record covers he did.
Moz was smart to work with this guy.
Those posters looked great.

 

[Odbmke]

I did say you were funny. The fact you're in a band and are giving Morrissey career advice is hilarious.
And as for mentioning business ethics and etiquette...are you here all week?

It’s called a hypothetical. I’m not in a band.

Try again.

 

[BookishBoy]

The guy who made the posters (and many more) is a fully-grown adult, with male-pattern hair loss and a job as teacher to boot, so show me the correlation here, please. Do you make all of your analogies while huffing glue?

And this fully grown adult seems not to have a problem with Morrissey having stolen his work originally, and pleased to have the subsequent chance to do some freelance work for him.

 

[Odbmke]

You have to know there are people here who are not smart enough or educated enough to understand the comparisons you are making. like sampling a song is not really the same as covering a song. Soho did get permission to use the sample in Hippie Chick. How does anyone know people are or are not not getting permission from Morrissey or the copyright holder to cover his songs? SER copyrights everything, but Morrissey steals and no some people would not consider it an honor to have their work stolen.
And think about how Morrissey violated his agreement to not disclose it was Miley on the vocals, because he thinks he can do whatever he wants, and he then lost permission to use them

Since most musicians don't understand the difference between a song and its recording, and the rights that accompany each, I of course wouldn't expect the usual lazy thinkers like thewilsgordygaszoom to understand.

Most people here are sleeping and do not want to believe.

Once a song is released as a recording, anyone on earth can cover it either live or recorded, provided the licenses are paid. That’s why Moz didn’t have to ask Jobriath for permission to record and play Morning Star Ship live. It’s how Boz would have been able to release his covers LP even had there been a falling out with M.

When anyone plays a cover live, the venue pays a BMI/ASCAP/SEAC a license, which makes its way back to the songwriters. Venues pay blanket licenses to these societies. No premisson from the songwriters is needed. Some venues don't pay these fees, which is why backstage you will see a "no covers" sign.

If you wanna record and release it, that’s easy as well. You just have to pay a mechanical license fee, which is set by Congress. If you wanted to press up 500 45’s of your bands cover of Suedehead, you can, and Morrissey will get his ~$60. Put it on Spotify and he will get his cut as well.

The master recording of a song is usually owned or controlled for a period of time, by a record label. Anyone who wants to sample the actual master recording must ask permission from the rights holder and negotiate a fee for its use. This requires permission.

 

[gashonthenail]

It’s called a hypothetical. I’m not in a band.

Try again.

That's a shame. I bet you were in a band though. And it didn't work out. So now here you are, a big shot in the music industry. Giving Morrissey career advice. Still, your advice is as valuable, or invaluable, as anyone else's I guess.

 

[Odbmke]

That's a shame. I bet you were in a band though. And it didn't work out. So now here you are, a big shot in the music industry. Giving Morrissey career advice. Still, your advice is as valuable, or invaluable, as anyone else's I guess.

You type a lot without saying anything.

 

[Was I ever any good]

 

[Surface]

Since most musicians don't understand the difference between a song and its recording, and the rights that accompany each, I of course wouldn't expect the usual lazy thinkers like thewilsgordygaszoom to understand.

Most people here are sleeping and do not want to believe.

Once a song is released as a recording, anyone on earth can cover it either live or recorded, provided the licenses are paid. That’s why Moz didn’t have to ask Jobriath for permission to record and play Morning Star Ship live. It’s how Boz would have been able to release his covers LP even had there been a falling out with M.

When anyone plays a cover live, the venue pays a BMI/ASCAP/SEAC a license, which makes its way back to the songwriters. Venues pay blanket licenses to these societies. No premisson from the songwriters is needed. Some venues don't pay these fees, which is why backstage you will see a "no covers" sign.

If you wanna record and release it, that’s easy as well. You just have to pay a mechanical license fee, which is set by Congress. If you wanted to press up 500 45’s of your bands cover of Suedehead, you can, and Morrissey will get his ~$60. Put it on Spotify and he will get his cut as well.

The master recording of a song is usually owned or controlled for a period of time, by a record label. Anyone who wants to sample the actual master recording must ask permission from the rights holder and negotiate a fee for its use. This requires permission.

I of course wouldn't expect the usual lazy thinkers like thewilsgordygaszoom to understand.

That's a great description of them, If Morrisey was convicted of a despicable crime, they would find a way to put a positive spin on it.

 

[Anonymous]

These posters seemed fine at first glance, but up close on the street, the entire design is pixelated—even the text. If you're going to put something out there, hire professionals who can deliver quality work.

This kind of half-baked effort reflects the problem with Morrissey's recent aesthetic output: it's all too rushed and lackluster, and then he wonders why his career's in the state it's in. It's time to step it up.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

‘.. he stole from the rich and the poor
and the not-very-rich and the very poor
and he stole all hearts away
he stole all hearts away
he stole all hearts away
he stole all hearts away’

 

[gordyboy9]

I did say you were funny. The fact you're in a band and are giving Morrissey career advice is hilarious.
And as for mentioning business ethics and etiquette...are you here all week?

well said gash,imagine an employee giving out details of an international singers future plans.
dont give this guy any secrets as they will be out in the open within 5 minutes.

 

[hand in glove]

This is all so trite. Come on, the posters are beautiful. Any fan would be honored to see their work is appreciated by their favorite artist. And then to actually have a chance to work professionally for them is, I would imagine, quite a privilege. Morrissey didn't sell a price tag.

 

[Odbmke]

This is all so trite. Come on, the posters are beautiful. Any fan would be honored to see their work is appreciated by their favorite artist. And then to actually have a chance to work professionally for them is, I would imagine, quite a privilege. Morrissey didn't sell a price tag.

No, he didn’t, but it’s indicative of how he treats people, from Andy and Mike to this designer. Read the leaked emails, in it he gives away how *he* thinks artist should be treated, ie. “he who must be obeyed”. He thinks he does no wrong. You people know who Scott and Pete manage? You think these managers are all wildly competent with their other world class clients, but are suddenly incompetent boobs when in comes to Morrisseys career?

Why is it so hard for you all to acknowledge that he is both an amazing, world class artist and also, an amazing world class douchebag?

 

[hand in glove]

No, he didn’t, but it’s indicative of how he treats people, from Andy and Mike to this designer. Read the leaked emails, in it he gives away how *he* thinks artist should be treated, ie. “he who must be obeyed”. He thinks he does no wrong. You people know who Scott and Pete manage? You think these managers are all wildly competent with their other world class clients, but are suddenly incompetent boobs when in comes to Morrisseys career?

Why is it so hard for you all to acknowledge that he is both an amazing, world class artist and also, an amazing world class douchebag?

I don't know who Scott and Pete manage, no. I have no idea who they are, and I have honestly never kept up with names when it comes to who manages Morrissey. I can't even remember the last guy's name.

Yes, I've read that Morrissey is difficult to work with - I see the posts, the stories, the many labels he's been in and out of. I don't know what he is demanding from these labels. What is it, Odbmke? You must know. As much as you talk about him, and as much as you take all of this so personally, you must know what he wants and needs in a contract for it to thrive. What is it that he's asking for that's considered too much? What do you mean he wants to be obeyed? Is that because he doesn't bend to anyone's rules? If he was on the verge of a contract (was it from Sun?) what was it that made him decide against it? Did he elaborate? Don't you have a recording of that zoom session? What happened to all the proof you were going to show us? I'm not asking you this to be a bitch. I'm asking because I'm seriously interested in what you have to show because it doesn't matter what Morrissey does, it is always wrong in your eyes. You have completely demonized him.

As far as Andy and Mike - Morrissey wasn't the only one who was in on that deal. Johnny had his hands in there as well. What kind of person does that make him? We, as people, who we are fundamentally at the core - that does not change. We grow. We change in likes and dislikes, but we are fully formed in character by a very young age. So, if Morrissey is bad, then so is Johnny.

Please don't ask me to look shit up. Just explain it here and now and I won't ask you again.

 

[Multi]

I'm asking because I'm seriously interested in what you have to show because it doesn't matter what Morrissey does, it is always wrong in your eyes. You have completely demonized him.

to be fair, he has only ever criticized all that he has done AFTER Morrissey burned down the label deal and his working relationship with Galli -- and it's not hard for one to assume that ODB has done so because he knows as well as any other intelligent one of us, that Moz has no better option and just f***ed himself and his career into oblivion.