Der Spiegel audio file of Morrissey interview released

Here you go. The recording of the interview.

Der Audiomitschnitt zum SPIEGEL-Interview mit Morrissey - Spiegel Online
Sänger Morrissey fühlt sich nach einem Interview mit dem SPIEGEL falsch zitiert und will nun nie wieder mit Printmedien sprechen. Hören Sie hier den Mitschnitt des Interviews.

English version:

The Audio of DER SPIEGEL's Interview with Morrissey
British pop singer Morrissey has accused DER SPIEGEL of falsely quoting him in a recently published interview. The magazine stands behind its reporting and has made the decision to post the audio online in response.

On Friday, Nov. 10, DER SPIEGEL culture reporter Juliane Liebert told her editors that she had been offered an interview with British popstar Morrissey and that a decision needed to be made quickly on whether to accept. We agreed: The former lead singer of The Smiths doesn't shy away from speaking his mind - and he also doesn't grant interviews very often.

The following Monday, Liebert flew to Los Angeles, where she was to interview Morrissey on Tuesday. The interview appointment got delayed several times before finally taking place on Wednesday and lasting 40 minutes. Edited versions of interviews published in DER SPIEGEL are usually authorized by the interview subject before publication, consistent with established procedure in German journalism. But in this instance, Morrissey's team elected to forego authorization.

After its publication on Nov. 18 in DER SPIEGEL, the interview (available behind the SPIEGEL Plus paywall in German) generated headlines not only in the German-language media. English publications like the Independent also wrote about Morrissey's statements regarding Trump, Brexit, the #MeToo debate and questions of national identity.

The musician then sought to distance himself from the published interview. "Unless you see the words form in my mouth and then you see or hear the words come out of my mouth... please, if you don't see that, I didn't say them," he told fans at a concert. He said he would never grant an interview to a print journalist again.

On Monday, Morrissey followed up with a post on his official Facebook page casting doubt on whether his statements had been reflected accurately by DER SPIEGEL. He also alleged that the fact that the magazine had not yet posted the raw audio of the interview was tantamount to an indirect admission of guilt.

To counter that claim, the editors of DER SPIEGEL have decided to post the audio of the interview online.

You can listen to the interview conducted with Morrissey in Los Angeles on Nov. 15 here:

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Posted by Famous when dead:

Interview mp3 - yours to keep:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dx1c0j
(the exact file as used on the site).



Media coverage:

• German News Site Releases Audio of Controversial Morrissey Interview: Listen - Pitchfork. Link posted by an anonymous person.
• Morrissey Really Did Say All Those Controversial Things, Newly Released Audio Proves - Uproxx. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• German news site calls Morrissey's bluff, releases audio of him saying shitty things - AV Club. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Audio from Morrissey’s controversial interview has been released, and it proves he wasn’t misquoted - Consequence Of Sound. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• The audio revealing Morrissey’s defence of Kevin Spacey has been released - Tone Deaf. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Der Spiegel releases full audio from Morrissey interview after singer refutes controversial remarks - The Independent. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Morrissey: Der Spiegel releases audio of controversial interview - BBC News. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Sorry Morrissey, Der Spiegel Has Audio Proof You're Still an Asshole - Noisey / VICE. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.

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Related item:

• Der Spiegel audio "to be released in the next days" - Juliane Liebert tweet - Dec. 11, 2017

 

[caramel sea salt]

There is no proof (yet) that Weinstein, Spacey or Trump raped anyone. But if you constantly use your position of power and vaguely or distinctively offer people jobs, money, or a certain lifestyle to get them to f*** you then you’re a predator. Even if people agree to f*** you, you’re still coercing. That’s predatory. It’s not illegal to be a predator, mind you. It is, however, pretty twisted.

 

[countthree]

There's a documentary on BBC Iplayer about Male Rape. Worth a watch. Some of the accounts say that the people who were raped were intending to have sex with their rapists anyway but the person they were with turned either weird of violent and they changed their mind. After that is when the rapes occured. Going back to somebody's place doesn't = consent. To use an analogy, my old Step Dad was perfectly behaved outside of the house but inside he was a f***ing monster - I should clarify that he was a violent bully rather than a sex abuser. Sometimes people behave very differently behind closed doors and you have to account for that rather than saying, well they went to their room so...

On your last point I agree and the disclosing of sexual offenders in the media is problematic, on the one hand it might make other victims come forward, on the other, you're pretty much seen as guilty forever whether you're innocent or guilty.

That is true. For some years I gave legal advice to victims of domestic violence and the most shocking thing when I began to do that at 23 y.o. was to realize how normal and civilized acted the more sadistic women beaters and abusers in their social life. Later I understood they tend to overcompensate their private crimes with a spotless and successful public life.

Talking about my own experience, some years ago I dated an apparently very respectable and literally rich man for a couple of months and that was the most horrible experience of my entire life. I'm still escaping from it in my mind. I could understand the first signs of psychological abuse thanks to my previous experiences and the stories I listened from other people. Later my suspictions were confirmed when I had access to the files of his divorce. Abusers are masters of deception. They act as hunters setting a trap to catch a prey.

 

[countthree]

There is no proof (yet) that Weinstein, Spacey or Trump raped anyone. But if you constantly use your position of power and vaguely or distinctively offer people jobs, money, or a certain lifestyle to get them to f*** you then you’re a predator. Even if people agree to f*** you, you’re still coercing. That’s predatory. It’s not illegal to be a predator, mind you. It is, however, pretty twisted.

Yes, you don't need to use actual violence to rape a person. The only existence of the possibility of a harmful consequence if the other person says no constitutes a rape or an abuse. The sooner we all understand it, the better for the existence of a civilised society.

 

[Vegan]

Morrissey entered into a contract with Der Spiegel which allowed him to review the interview prior to publication. He chose not to. He has exercised his right of reply and can do so again in response to the audio publication. Morrissey is responsible for his own words and any failure to express nuance, not Juliane. Stop trying to make excuses by blaming a journalist for excellent investigative journalism. If Morrissey is so delusional that he cannot remember the words he said but still believes he has the right to malign and discredit a journalist's public integrity and reputation then that just clarifies that he is not a truthful nor accurate witness to the events of his own life. Anyone re-reading 'Autobiography' should bear this in mind. However, I do not recommend anyone does such a perilous thing. Simply throw it on the bonfire of vanities alongside Low In High School and List Of The Lost.

I wasn't blaming the journalist. I was just exploring possibilities as to why there is a strange disconnect between what Moz said and what he seems to believe he said or didn't say. It's truly bizarre. Again, I think Moz confused other mainstream coverage and interpretive claims ("Morrissey defends Spacey. Blames victims") with what the Der Spiegel article actually contained. I fault him for not clarifying his remarks. Could it be he really couldn't recall making those comments? That would explain his self-defeating challenge to produce the audio. In fairness, maybe the guy is busy with other things, ya know? Bottom line is that this has turned into a worse pr disaster than it should have.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh Gosh...
Due to my activities I have to be in constant contact with artists (especially painters, writers, dancers, actors and sometimes musicians). I have NEVER talked to an artist who is not a narcissist.

You know, if you are NOT a narcissist, then you probably don't feel like you want to get onto a stage and begin to sing in front of hundreds of persons, nor you feel the need to hang a painting in a museum, nor you feel the need to write a book and make other people read it, nor you think that other persons want to see you dancing for 90 minutes, etc.

Morrissey is a narcissist for sure. I have never knew of an artist who isn't.

Morrissey is a damn legend... You are simply a fool posting in a forum.

As for artists surrounding themselves with persons who say "yes"... Most of the artists I know do it. Very few artists are very open minded when it comes to criticism of their work.

But you seem to be very happy believing that Morrissey is "finished", you don't fit into the "narcissist" category, but into the "frustrated loser" one.

Yes lots, not all artists, are narcissistic.
But most grow out of it. Bowie was a well rounded man by the time he died and he was king of the narcissistic kind
Morrissey is nearly 60 and in worse shape mentally than ever before. The last ten years seem to have consisted of break down and mental damage. Certainly he has damaged his legacy. Getting a day named after him in souless LA won't save him, have you seen most of his LA fans? Fat meat eating Mexicans with no clue what he's really like.
As for terms like 'Legrand' that's just kids stuff, he's just a human who can write and sing.
All this 'legend' and 'music is eternal' is BS. Morrissey has to think this stuff because he hates himself, he has to try and make himself feel important.
Yes there will always be music but there won't always be his music, I expect even Elvis and Bowie and The Beatles will be forgotten in the end and he isn't on their level

The real shame is even now people are making excuses for him.

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

There is no proof (yet) that Weinstein, Spacey or Trump raped anyone. But if you constantly use your position of power and vaguely or distinctively offer people jobs, money, or a certain lifestyle to get them to f*** you then you’re a predator. Even if people agree to f*** you, you’re still coercing. That’s predatory. It’s not illegal to be a predator, mind you. It is, however, pretty twisted.

Absolutely correct, and actresses (and actors, let’s not forget) have been doing favours for film moguls since the invention of the medium. Is it right or is it wrong is a moral consideration, not a legal one, until, of course, the moment the law is contravened. Then it becomes more a matter of conflicting opinion until decided upon in court.

It would be hard to argue that a consensual sexual encounter, however seedy, which ultimately resulted in a house in the Hollywood hills, a private jet, international fame and a bank balance the size of Everest for the provider had any victim as such. There are girls working on the streets right now doing the same thing for an awful lot less than that, and round the back of Poundland to boot, instead of a luxury penthouse.

What I think is almost as concerning as the allegations themselves is the continuing rise of this odd Tumblr feminism, in which it is assumed by some that all men are bad and all men are predatory. I think that’s very dangerous. It is a belief that is becoming ever more subsumed into the mainstream media, and not something which would have occurred before rolling news and the internet.

In earlier times those loons would still hold those opinions, but social media has given them an outlet to publish them and find the in actuality vanishingly small number of fruitcakes who are of the same mind. In turn it is picked up by MSNBC or CNN or Auntie or the Guardian - all desperate to find something controversial to fill their pages and screens - and given far more credence than it deserves.

Cronkite or Dimbleby the first wouldn’t have put up with it, that I do know. “They’re mad. Get rid of them.”

 

[Slap me on the patio]

Have we now all calmed down again?

Gosh, even some of my best friends have done strange or silly statements - and so did I.

Isn’t it the imperfection that makes people interesting and lovable?

Morrissey isn’t perfect - but he also isn’t a bad person.

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

Yes lots, not all artists, are narcissistic.
But most grow out of it. Bowie was a well rounded man by the time he died and he was king of the narcissistic kind

I think Iman finally sorted Bowie out. She provided him with the guidance/security/kick up the arse we all need at some point.

She didn’t always get it right...

... but overall she did well by him.

 

[Anonymous]

Kate Bush

Radiohead

Kraftwerk

Ludovico Einaudi

Sigur Ros

I know artists as well,, darling. It's entirely possible to be 'famous' and sane. None of the above are narcissists. All have normal relationships wth 'consensual reality' and listen to feedback from people outside whatever bubble hangers-on try to construct. The fact you hang with losers is your problem, not mine.

best
BB

What a list of boring f***ers. Get a dose of rock n' roll into your bloodstream. Chuck Berry's guitar intro to Rock N' Roll Music beats the lot of them.

 

[Anonymous]

He has committed egregious crimes against musical, lyrical and literary taste and decency and must be punished appropriately. I do not hang on to his words. I regard him as a serious demonic entity who must be revoked. He summoned ZoZo with 'Ouija Board, Ouija Board'. ZoZo was not pleased as Morrissey is an eejit who knows Zero about that stuff yet thought he could play silly games as if he was a singing Jimmy Page. Twat. Now he has karmic pay-back.

Nobody gets 'bored with music'. Nietzsche: "without music, life would be a mistake"

His audience are broken-hearted at finally having to accept he's a total fraud. He played on sincerity, integrity and authenticity and now everyone who isn't a delusional Cult loon sees he has acted in Bad Faith since the start.

He must be punished. His reputation is in ruins, as is his legacy. Forgiveness is possible but can you really imagine Morrissey having the bollocks to say he's sorry, he f***ed up badly and he wants another chance? He wants to redeem himself? All is possible. I'm a devout Catholic. Nobody is beyond redemption but Morrissey faces an enormous purgatory of pain if he is to rise from the abyss he has plunged himself into. De Profundis? We shall see.....perhaps one day he'll thank me for trying to save his soul from hell...

best
BB
Milano

FYI ZoZo the Clown is also available for Children's Birthday parties, baptisms and crucifixions.

PS: f*** your Catholic religion. Criticize Morrissey all you like but the Catholic Church have and do practice EVIL. Turn your criticism on your stupid bullshit obscene religion.

 

[Anonymous]

No no, son. I get that you’d rather deflect to the evils of the Holy See...

...but there’s plenty of room for scathing criticism of ALL scum-bags. This is a Morrissey site. No better place to call out his f***wadery than right here.

Suck it up, l’il shooter.

 

[Nathalie]

What a wonderful few days it's been!

So delightful to see The Cult Of Morrissey is absolute disarray as even the craziest of loons struggle to find words to exonerate Dear Leader. They are mortified, in abject distress at the humiliation visited upon them by their false idol.

And how pleasingly discordant and tinnitus-ridden it must be tonight inside Morrissey's head as he is forced to face a new reality wherein he is openly mocked and ridiculed for his stupidity.

It's going to be a delicious interlude as we wait for him to finish his mental contortions and try and come up with some excuse that isn't utterly silly. Or he could apologise. Now, that would be the funniest thing to read ever....

He is finished. Only a fool would now give any credence to any previous interview he's ever done.

In some lonely prison cell 5 star hotel room, a collapsed narcissist is fuming.....we can only hope that when he can no longer withstand the knowledge of his public ridicule that his attempt to reverse this PR catastrophe continue to be as amusing as his ridiculous interview with Der Spiegel.

This is the defining moment in his career. The moment when it all goes tits-up.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving twit.


best
BB

Sure that you are exactly the opposite of the Cult-Morrissey : you focus on fans who spend their time to defend him shamelessly and you, you spend your time to blame him, to destroy him and to hate him, shamelessly, exactly with the same strength. On your shame scale “Cult Morrissey” I prefer to be on the esteem side, even if it seems exaggerated and blind for you rather than your blind hatred and excessive. All what you write largely exceeds the contempt and calumny, you are straightforwardly in the total destruction of a person, a moral death, not only into constructive critics. So, I wonder if you have a personal history with him to revenge. Perhaps no, perhaps yes, never mind. But you are a suspicious avatar. And your destroying remarks are not good sense, in the same way which you estimate that a fan who defends him is outside good sense.

I’m into the “cult Morrissey” as you say (according my own definition and not yours) but my morality does not collapse only because I listen his music or because I defend him with regard to what I can perceive about him and because I generally try to understand what he means, even if I have not got all the elements, even if I disagree. Excuse me if I don’t know him as well as you seem to know him ! (sarcastic tone) => Print into your head.

To finish, I’ve said :

“Yes, everyone can show compassion for presumed victims and a disgust for the abuser, of course. Since our morality and values speak in first. But our strong belief (deep conviction) can not be only based on our morality and values, but according evidences and the context = “we-have-to-see-it-in-proportion. Otherwise-every-person-on-this-planet-is-guilty”. Yes, yes, yes… He’s right. Simple but insightful”.

“Yes it exists people who goes to an appointment or a casting couch by greed or another interest and shout then about harassment. It also exist some people who lies for any reason, revenge, et caetera. It exists also some stories between adults and minors by consent and sometimes true love. All the situations can exist. And the law says always : evidences, evidences, evidences…”

“It really appears that M. Morrissey seeks to differentiate all the cases : people who know exactly what to expect and all the others circumstances, but every situation must be examined, first by the person with her own conscience and her own awareness of the abuse contexts and in a second time, when there is a lawsuit by the regulations (and then there’s no romance, no emotions, only particular case to look, only presumed facts, a presumed victim, a presumed abuser and consequences).”

=> It seems that you and others on this site are all agree with these subjects. AND according to me, M. Morrissey too, but yes that's only what I perceive. If that's not what you perceive, you don't need to destroy him up to that point. Just saying your critics.

 

[Uncleskinny]

Do me a favour and point out the parts that actually mean anything, would you?

Thanks.

 

[reelfountain]

You can say anything when you're making it up and have zero proof.

Hence the word maybe.

 

[Charlie Cheswick]

I think Iman finally sorted Bowie out. She provided him with the guidance/security/kick up the arse we all need at some point.

She didn’t always get it right...

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... but overall she did well by him.

Some things you just can't unsee.

 

[Peterb]

I think Iman finally sorted Bowie out. She provided him with the guidance/security/kick up the arse we all need at some point.

She didn’t always get it right...

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... but overall she did well by him.

CHECK OUT THE 'JOHNSON'!

 

[Orson Swells]

You can say anything when you're making it up and have zero proof.

A telling admission. That has been your MO for years after all.

 

[Orson Swells]

She didn’t always get it right...

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... but overall she did well by him.

I wonder what she saw in him.

 

[CrumbsOfComfort]

Here's the full recorded interview,
http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/morrissey-audio-mitschnitt-zum-spiegel-interview-a-1182981.html

‘Exit, Exit... Everybody’s Heading For The Exit’

Oh Morrissey : (

 

[g23]

I think Iman finally sorted Bowie out. She provided him with the guidance/security/kick up the arse we all need at some point.

She didn’t always get it right...

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... but overall she did well by him.

Iman had a lot to work with.