Morrissey Central "A RUSH AND A PUSH AND THE MUSIC IS OURS" (April 19, 2024)

Morrissey has paid the exit fee to Capitol Records in order to return both WORLD PEACE IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS albums back to him.
"It's been a long, hard, bloody war. Few would make it out alive, and … I'm no exception," he has commented.
Morrissey remains unsigned.

A RUSH AND A PUSH AND THE MUSIC IS OURS - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - A RUSH AND A PUSH AND THE MUSIC IS OURS

MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY on MORRISSEY CENTRAL

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[Gregor Samsa]

It is a shame. I guess there was something in the water, that exists no longer.

Though, I think the gods broke the mold after they made an artist like Morrissey.

I’m sorry, I meant that it’s a shame that you can’t find any living alternative artists or bands that you find excellent.

Most definitely.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

It’s been a while since any original work has been done. I’m sorry if you can’t understand this, or your definition of originality or excellence is different than mine.



‘when they made him, they broke the mold’

And I’m sorry that you constantly feel the need to diminish and patronize your opponent, use master suppression techniques and make yourself out to be some sort of impeccable elite. It’s not a good look and it doesn’t hold up.

I never used the word ‘original’. But there are however some very excellent music being made still, I think. Nick Cave, David Eugene Edwards, Jerome Reuter (Rome), Ossler, And Also the Trees, Christian Kjellvander, Mount Eerie, Henrik Meierkord, almost all music released on the labels Cryo Chamber and Cyclic Law, Lustmord, Current 93, Of The Wand and the Moon, Benjamin Tod, ,Colter Wall, Bohren und der Club of Gore, Esben and the Witch, El Perro del Mar, PJ Harvey, Kristin Michael Hayter, Chelsea Wolfe, Trollslottet, Mountain Realm… Some of these are reasonably original, I think. And all more or less excellent.

 

[goinghome]

Kinda find it strange to compare them in the first place. Entirely different approach, and artistic directions when it comes to their self expression. But both unique, and a blessing to pop music culture and history, not to mention the lives both artists have changed and saved.

I got around to reading the essay by Terry Eagleton Bookish Boy recently added to the Strange thread, and it says this:

With revolutionary nationalism, culture in the sense of language, custom, folklore, history, tradition, religion, ethnicity and so on becomes something people will kill for. Or die for. Not many people are prepared to kill for Balzac or Bowie, but culture in this more specialised sense also plays a key role in nationalist politics...

Isn't that the biggest compliment of all, that instead of being prepared to kill for you, they prefer to live by you?

 

[The Wild Turkey]

Let's not forget his blaming of censorship. His lies would have continued if Capitol hadn't leaked the messages.

Wild T'll always take the artists side.
I already heard too many stories about record companies
cheatin' and connivin' artists.
I still like Moz and his music, so the main thing is gettin'
a chance to hear the new stuff.

 

[The Queen of Batons]

Oh please. Moaning Myrtle is not a fireman or a doctor. He has not saved anyone’s life.

I've never been brave enough to ask how Morrissey has saved lives for fear of upsetting people, but now the point has been raised I am doing so. I've heard of many people who say they wouldn't still be on the planet if not for Morrissey. Is it about helping people cope with their lives/feelings ? If so, can someone explain how. In my early years of widowhood I came across people who found it so helpful to see an image/picture/on-line post that resonated with how they felt. They would be so enthusiastic in their thanks for whoever had offered it. On a personal level I could not understand how finding out someone felt like I did was supposed to make me feel better. It didn't. A description by someone else of how awful I felt did not make me feel less awful. In many respects Morrissey is a good role model, but how does that save lives?

 

[The Alchemist]

I've never been brave enough to ask how Morrissey has saved lives for fear of upsetting people, but now the point has been raised I am doing so. I've heard of many people who say they wouldn't still be on the planet if not for Morrissey. Is it about helping people cope with their lives/feelings ? If so, can someone explain how. In my early years of widowhood I came across people who found it so helpful to see an image/picture/on-line post that resonated with how they felt. They would be so enthusiastic in their thanks for whoever had offered it. On a personal level I could not understand how finding out someone felt like I did was supposed to make me feel better. It didn't. A description by someone else of how awful I felt did not make me feel less awful. In many respects Morrissey is a good role model, but how does that save lives?

Appreciate why you might question this.

For me personally, I've had several quite dark episodes in my life and Morrissey has been there like an undimmable beacon during every single one.

The reason? I feel a large part of it is his honesty, and the humour he injects into dark subject matter. There is an overarching dogged determination in his writing, and actually I feel there is a very powerful thematic 'will to live' stitching much of his work together. The words and music really speak and offer solace. That's an incredibly rare thing.

I feel a deep connection to him, and I feel immense empathy for him. Mainly because I see myself and my struggles in him (and he is the only person I know of who can sing these particular things, in this particular style)

It wasn't just finding a depressed singer though (as some of my family, friends and colleagues would say)

It was more about finding someone who communicated sincerely about life's difficulties, and then inspite of those difficulties, demonstrated how you can defiantly carve out a triumphant now.

Confront what you are afraid of
In the future when all's well

Would I credit him with saving my life?

I wouldn't necessarily say he was the only reason - as there was always a combination of factors - but his contribution has been absolutely enormous at times.

Morrissey doesn't owe me anything...... but I certainly owe him an awful lot......

Sounds dramatic I know, but true nonetheless.

 

[Light Housework]

I've never been brave enough to ask how Morrissey has saved lives for fear of upsetting people, but now the point has been raised I am doing so. I've heard of many people who say they wouldn't still be on the planet if not for Morrissey. Is it about helping people cope with their lives/feelings ? If so, can someone explain how. In my early years of widowhood I came across people who found it so helpful to see an image/picture/on-line post that resonated with how they felt. They would be so enthusiastic in their thanks for whoever had offered it. On a personal level I could not understand how finding out someone felt like I did was supposed to make me feel better. It didn't. A description by someone else of how awful I felt did not make me feel less awful. In many respects Morrissey is a good role model, but how does that save lives?

Songs like Meat Is Murder and I’m Not A Man give me hope for the human race to justify its existence.

 

[Roman Holiday]

Songs like Meat Is Murder and I’m Not A Man give me hope for the human race to justify its existence.

How so? Meat Is Murder impeaches most of the human race; I'm Not A Man criticizes nearly half of it.

 

[Light Housework]

How so? Meat Is Murder impeaches most of the human race; I'm Not A Man criticizes nearly half of it.

I see Morrissey as a truth teller and leader for us to change our ways.

 

[Roman Holiday]

I see Morrissey as a truth teller and leader for us to change our ways.

Telling the truth is fine. But if not many people are receptive (and they obviously aren't), then I'm not sure how that justifies the continued existence of the race.

On a planet of 8 billion, people who like Morrissey are pretty niche. And you have to cut it down to a tiny sliver of that niche when you consider how many people who like Morrissey also agree with him on the issue of animals. Even on this, a fan forum, he comes in for a lot of mockery &/or indifference on that one. I love Morrissey, and I'm grateful for his moral message, but let's be real. I don't think he's significantly changing humanity's ways.

 

[Light Housework]

Telling the truth is fine. But if not many people are receptive (and they obviously aren't), then I'm not sure how that justifies the continued existence of the race.

On a planet of 8 billion, people who like Morrissey are pretty niche. And you have to cut it down to a tiny sliver of that niche when you consider how many people who like Morrissey also agree with him on the issue of animals. Even on this, a fan forum, he comes in for a lot of mockery &/or indifference on that one. I love Morrissey, and I'm grateful for his moral message, but let's be real. I don't think he's significantly changing humanity's ways.

I have nothing better to do than to hope that his messages gain traction.

 

[Roman Holiday]

I have nothing better to do than to hope that his messages gain traction.

Couldn't you do something less futile?

 

[Light Housework]

Couldn't you do something less futile?

I do. I read lots of true crime.

 

[Light Housework]

I know what I just said makes no sense.

 

[Redacted]

Oh please. Moaning Myrtle is not a fireman or a doctor. He has not saved anyone’s life. He’s not larger than life, he’s just a singer. One with deteriorating talent and output, I might add.

The conspiracy bullshit he has facebooked together over the years makes him look like a fool. Or even worse, it shows what an idiot he deep down truly is. The emporer has no clothes. What a shame it has to end like this.

It's so strange that he has been elevated to this status. In reality he is an uneducated, ill-tempered bully who can't get along with people and who won't realize he is not great, he is not worth the problems he brings with him, and has not learned how to stop making a fool of himself. I read an interview with him in GQ recently, it's from 2012 and he is so full of himself, it's interesting to see how far he has fallen since then, and even then he had not put out an album in 7 years.

 

[DennisW]

Isn’t there also another album already complete after Bonfire?

He needs to quit pissing around with big labels and just release them on Bandcamp or something, and do indie/boutique label CD & vinyl special editions for those who want physical copies. He’d probably make more that way anyway than any traditional label is going to pay these days.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

It's so strange that he has been elevated to this status. In reality he is an uneducated, ill-tempered bully who can't get along with people and who won't realize he is not great, he is not worth the problems he brings with him, and has not learned how to stop making a fool of himself. I read an interview with him in GQ recently, it's from 2012 and he is so full of himself, it's interesting to see how far he has fallen since then, and even then he had not put out an album in 7 years.

7?! Refusal came out in 2009, so that’s three years. You should know that. The interview you’re referring to was originally published in 2004.

 

[Redacted]

If we have a whip-round, can we pay M to keep these albums under wraps?

I want him to never release them just to make some people cry

 

[Ryan]

It's so strange that he has been elevated to this status. In reality he is an uneducated, ill-tempered bully who can't get along with people and who won't realize he is not great, he is not worth the problems he brings with him, and has not learned how to stop making a fool of himself. I read an interview with him in GQ recently, it's from 2012 and he is so full of himself, it's interesting to see how far he has fallen since then, and even then he had not put out an album in 7 years.

I was watching this one the other day and remember thinking to myself “but why say that?”

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

I was watching this one the other day and remember thinking to myself “but why say that?”