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Yeah, the Peppers. Hopefully the studio version will sound more like ‘Under the Bridge’ it seems that’s what some folks on here would probably prefer. Those dudes have a lot more ‘spring in their step’.
What do you think of "I Ex-Love You"
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Yeah, the Peppers. Hopefully the studio version will sound more like ‘Under the Bridge’ it seems that’s what some folks on here would probably prefer. Those dudes have a lot more ‘spring in their step’.
Luxo
Luxo by name, Fuxo by nature
Red Hot Chilli Peppers are shit, but Rebels Without Applause is a good song. It sounded great when I saw Morrissey in Manchester last time he was there. This just sounds boring song played live by band that looks bored out of their skulls, but perhaps the studio version will be much better.
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I always wondered why Boz stopped doing his duckwalk. Would it be wrong to speculate that Morrissey told him to cool it? Anyway, I don’t know a lot about the Peppers, but I think they’ve been playing together for awhile and have a chemistry with each other, which helps get the job done well and quick. Maybe that’s one of the reasons they were used by Watt for Bonfire. I also think the band was focusing on playing a new song on the first night of the tour. First nights of the tour always seem a bit off, 2nd night sounded even better to me.
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As this is Morrissey, shouldn't this song be called 'I Ex-Luff You?' 
Very well said and TRUEAs I wrote in the gig thread - not much.
Hopefully this is one of those tracks that sounds better on the studio version, as to be honest - this really isn't very good. Musically a re-heated 'Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness', only with less interesting lyrics. Morrissey sounds fairly tuneless and bored as well, especially in those wordless 'hmmm hmmm' bits.
I have found some of the 'Bonfire' tracks encouraging live, but this isn't one of them, and seems closer to B-side drek like 'Kerouac's Crack.' If the record deal had gone through and this had been released as a single, unfortuantely I can't see if getting any radio airplay or setting the charts alight
Couldn’t have said it better meself
BrokenFrame
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You used to love it?
Yes before I heard it
spiritual atom bomb
Active Member
I absolutely love it.
You can put three Solo users in a thread and you’ll hear four opinions about a song — the old boy can never win.
For me, this is exactly the kind of music I hoped to hear from the new albums. That bright, jangly guitar, the up tempo sort of Motown beat as someone else said rightly. It’s light and cute. I’ve loved everything from Bonfire so far. Pop tracks like this, Rebels, Veronica; a punky stomper like Telephone; slow ballads like Oblivion and the title track which are so beautiful.
The production we heard on the studio version of Rebels was… unfortunate. A product of pandemic circumstances?
But I really find all the tracks he’s done live from Bonfire endearing, and I Ex-Love You is no exception. Love the lyrics — maybe I’m cruel but there have been some sorely needed breakups where I felt that way! Very interesting interpretation that it might be about all the stars who say “Oh, he inspired me so much, I used to love him, but now…”
It seems like Moz can’t win. If he experiments, like he did throughout IANADOAC, people complain and make fun and the sales are low (some hits and misses imho—but why not explore). If we get a pop song with some jangle, then here come the Smiths taunts and now it’s uninspired.
Maybe I’m not very discerning. Saw a mention of “Julie in the Weeds,” another track I absolutely loved, mainly for the vocals but the production, instrumentation didn’t ruin it for me.
I loved California Sun, for example, it was a great record and a great idea — I would love to hear another cover album from a man who loves and knows music so deeply. Even a handpicked compilation like ‘Under The Influence’ would be a treat.
So maybe I’m a fawning fan — although I think the new, dodgy grandpa’s facebook “muh immigrants” stuff is a mistake.
The only time I think Morrissey has ever been off the mark is some of those albums after YATQ — repetitive, losing steam. And I never quite cared for LIHS. But everything before, since, in between, is full of gems. It’s because Moz loves music the way he does. He’s not Frankie Valli, he’s not trotting something out to pay the bills. This is what he knows, this is what he breathes. An artist to the end.
You can put three Solo users in a thread and you’ll hear four opinions about a song — the old boy can never win.
For me, this is exactly the kind of music I hoped to hear from the new albums. That bright, jangly guitar, the up tempo sort of Motown beat as someone else said rightly. It’s light and cute. I’ve loved everything from Bonfire so far. Pop tracks like this, Rebels, Veronica; a punky stomper like Telephone; slow ballads like Oblivion and the title track which are so beautiful.
The production we heard on the studio version of Rebels was… unfortunate. A product of pandemic circumstances?
But I really find all the tracks he’s done live from Bonfire endearing, and I Ex-Love You is no exception. Love the lyrics — maybe I’m cruel but there have been some sorely needed breakups where I felt that way! Very interesting interpretation that it might be about all the stars who say “Oh, he inspired me so much, I used to love him, but now…”
It seems like Moz can’t win. If he experiments, like he did throughout IANADOAC, people complain and make fun and the sales are low (some hits and misses imho—but why not explore). If we get a pop song with some jangle, then here come the Smiths taunts and now it’s uninspired.
Maybe I’m not very discerning. Saw a mention of “Julie in the Weeds,” another track I absolutely loved, mainly for the vocals but the production, instrumentation didn’t ruin it for me.
I loved California Sun, for example, it was a great record and a great idea — I would love to hear another cover album from a man who loves and knows music so deeply. Even a handpicked compilation like ‘Under The Influence’ would be a treat.
So maybe I’m a fawning fan — although I think the new, dodgy grandpa’s facebook “muh immigrants” stuff is a mistake.
The only time I think Morrissey has ever been off the mark is some of those albums after YATQ — repetitive, losing steam. And I never quite cared for LIHS. But everything before, since, in between, is full of gems. It’s because Moz loves music the way he does. He’s not Frankie Valli, he’s not trotting something out to pay the bills. This is what he knows, this is what he breathes. An artist to the end.
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Phranc & Open
Golden Years 88-97
I don't think the band seems bored. All 5 musicians have to concentrate intensively on their instruments. There is zero showmanship. Compared to Morrissey's first live band in 91/92, where every lad was a star in their own rights, they now really seem like a backing band with no charisma.
gordyboy9
You Filthy Beast.
sky some people cant help themselves,they were born negative,i think it will be one of the most catchy songs,you can never judge a live version this was never more so than the quarry tracks from the 2002 tour,wait till the studio version before anyone judges a song.
Ashley_TakeABow
Ice water for blood
The way he sings "Let me" // "Let me tell you something new" // reminds me of how he sings "Let me" // "Let me get my hands on your memory glands" // in Handsome Devil.
A lovely little flashback.
A lovely little flashback.
skull
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Many of you mention Your Arsenal as a masterpiece. While it is a very good record, songs like Fatty and We hate it are just, as you said about I ex love you, b side material. The difference is that you were young in 1992.
Phranc & Open
Golden Years 88-97
That was a wonderful remark, to quote VAN THE MAN. Had the same thought.
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true. People here that criticize Morrissey’s work, usually never take into consideration their frame of mind and needs as a younger fan compared to their needs as an older music fan and how that shapes their judgement. So there’s no doubt that they would probably criticize Fatty and We Hate It if released today in the same way they are criticizing Morrissey’s most recent debuted song.
bored
not bitter but bored
3 of my lowest rated Smiths songs are This Charming Man, Heaven Knows and The Boy With The Thorn.. so the fact that this sounds nothing like TCM is a highlight.
As far as it sounding Smiths-like, SER said in his bizarre interview with Moz that this some was the most Smiths-sounding song on BoT. I'm paraphrasing because I have yet to set aside the time to learn exact quotes from Sam Etsey photoshoppeR.
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gashonthenail
Make Orwell Fiction Again
All I know is I've been singing, I ex-love you, oh oh, oh oh, oh oh...in my head for the past 2 days. Now that's what I call a pop song...
Phranc & Open
Golden Years 88-97
But isn't that, what once made a good Morrissey B-side?
BookishBoy
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Oh god I absolutely *hated* Fatty and We Hate It when they were first released as singles, thought they were awful! Quite like them both now.
(I also remember telling friends at school that "The Boy With the Thorn In His Side" was incredibly lazy songwriting and marked a real drop-off in quality for The Smiths, the week it came out. Ah, the confidence of youth.)
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