The Cure - Songs Of A Lost World

@Famous when dead, since you’re quite good at sleuthing, perhaps you can assist with this? Or anyone at this point, really.

There is a conversation going on over on reddit about the song Temptation from the Pornography sessions. On the DE of Pornography all we got was an instrumental demo of Temptation and Temptation Two (aka LGTB), the latter of which has those really weird reverb-y and hard to understand vocal deliveries Robert does sometimes.

Does anyone know much about the actual song Temptation that was not released from those sessions? So far discussions have shown us that it was going to be selected as a potential single next to The Hanging Garden.

Another early interview with Simon also popped up today where he mentions the songs on the album, including Temptation and A Strange Day with its working title: “A Blind Dance”.

Here is the discussion:

 
It Can Never Be The Same and A Boy I Never Knew (!!!) probably on next album:

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What's next?​


From Radio X:

The Cure's Robert Smith teases "companion piece" to Songs Of A Lost World with the "saddest" song of all

By Jenny Mensah

The Cure frontman has revealed what to expect from the band's next effort and said it will hopefully be out "next summer".

Robert Smith says The Cure's next album could be "heavier" than their last.

The Cure frontman spoke to Radio X's John Kennedy this week as part of a special X-Posure track by track playback of the band's new Songs Of A Lost World album, where he revealed there's a breadth of work left over, which could very well see itself on the next record.

"There's 32 unreleased songs at the moment sitting in my house," he revealed. "There are another two eight track albums if we wanted. But I think that the next one will be probably 10 songs. I'm finishing the next one. I just can't decide on the running order. It's always which ones fit together best."

Smith also revealed there's so much more material he'd created through the years that he never considered revisiting before, but the response Songs Of A Lost World - which gave them their first UK No. 1 album in 32 years - had him rethinking waiting so long before issuing their next effort.

"We always had about 14, 15 songs left over from the 4:13 Dream sessions as well [from 2008]", the 65-year-old musician added. "So there's an awful lot of stuff that's unreleased and I never thought I'd bother revisiting it. But actually with the way this album has been received, I think maybe it's the right time for me just to go back over stuff and get it out there. Like, finish singing stuff and finish mixing it."

Sharing more details about the next record in particular, the Alone singer added: "The companion piece to Songs Of A Lost World, which will be out hopefully before next summer, is what I'm currently finishing. I just need to mix it. It's not as dark in some ways, although it actually has probably the saddest song of all of them on it."

He went on: "It has a couple of songs that we were playing live which didn't make it onto Songs Of A Lost World and it has some completely new stuff that no one's ever heard [...] There's three songs on it, which are slower than pretty much anything on this album. So I don't know, it may well end up being heavier than this one."

Continuing to talk about some of the tracks on what would be their 15th studio album, Smith revealed that although it's a long way from being "upbeat" in terms of its lyrics, it could include a track the band has been playing for some time which has transformed from a piece about bereavement to a "powerful live song".

"Lyrically, it's a very long way from being an upbeat album," he mused. "It has one song of grief on it which didn't make it onto this album, which is a very, very old song which we've been playing for a long, long time called It Can Never Be the Same. And I think that this next album will have that song on because I think it's about time. It used to be called Christmas Without You.

"When I first wrote it, it was about my mum dying, but it's mutated over the years and that's actually turned into a really powerful live song. That would probably make it on.

"Another song called A Boy I Never Knew - we've redone that. I think that would probably make it on. That's a sad song, but in a completely different way. That's me singing about a boy that died a million years ago. About the death of humanity before it started, I think... or something."

The expansive conversation, which was part of an X-Posure track by track playback of The Cure's Songs Of A Lost World album, saw the frontman discuss the inspiration behind the songs on the record, the encouragement he had from his elder brother to pursue music full-time, his thoughts on mortality and the process of ageing as well as the secret to preserving his voice over the years.

From The Cure's humble beginnings practicing in his parents' extension to the best piece of advice his father ever gave him, the much-loved alternative rock icon seems to leave no stone unturned in this memorable chat, which will be available to listen to this Saturday (14th December) from 11pm.
 
 
So, we pretty much know the following about the “companion piece” to SOALW:

- Was originally going to be “poppy” but is now being described as a “companion piece”
- Will most likely have It Can Never Be The Same and A Boy I Never Knew on it
- Robert said although it isn’t as doom and gloom as SOALW, three songs on it are slower than any of the songs on SOALW
- Another Happy Birthday is another contender to be on it
- Bodiam Sky could also be reworked for it
- RS recently said he wrote a really pop sounding song for it and joked that he should write Christmas lyrics for it
- No touring in 2025 to get this album completed, which is essentially done apart from mixing and tinkering with 4 songs

I think that covers everything mentioned in interviews so far.

 
Thursday, December 19, 2024

Robert on 4:13 Dream




From NME:
Robert Smith on why he dislikes The Cure’s ‘4:13 Dream’: “It was nowhere near what I wanted it to be”

By Liberty Dunworth

Robert Smith has opened up about his relationship with The Cure‘s ‘4:13 Dream’, saying that he isn’t a fan of how it turned out.
The frontman looked back at the 2008 record during a new interview with Annie Mac and Nick Grimshaw, in which he celebrated the release of the band’s latest LP, ‘Songs Of A Lost World’.

Reflecting on his relationship with ‘4:13 Dream’ nearly 16 years on, Smith revealed that the finished product didn’t match the initial vision he had, partly because he wanted it to be much longer.

“If I’m really honest I was trying to make an album in 2008 which was a double album and it was really odd,” he began. “It had all kinds of stuff on it, instrumental stuff – and I was pressured into reducing it all down into a single album… I have never felt happy about it. “

He continued, suggesting that he has been tempted to resume work on the album to help finally capture the vision he initially had “I bristle a little bit about it. At some point, before I fall over, I’m determined…” he said.
“There are 13 songs from those sessions that never got released. It was a double album and the whole idea of ‘4:13 Dream’ was that it was like a fever dream.

As it turned out, it wasn’t. It was nowhere near what I wanted it to be.
“I learnt a lesson [from that], and maybe that’s why we didn’t make another album for such a long time! I hated the idea of delivering it to the deadline. It was my own fault. I should’ve just ignored everyone. I was so sickened by the process of [being] commodified, and it really did upset me a lot.”
 
So, we pretty much know the following about the “companion piece” to SOALW:

- Was originally going to be “poppy” but is now being described as a “companion piece”
- Will most likely have It Can Never Be The Same and A Boy I Never Knew on it
- Robert said although it isn’t as doom and gloom as SOALW, three songs on it are slower than any of the songs on SOALW
- Another Happy Birthday is another contender to be on it
- Bodiam Sky could also be reworked for it
- RS recently said he wrote a really pop sounding song for it and joked that he should write Christmas lyrics for it
- No touring in 2025 to get this album completed, which is essentially done apart from mixing and tinkering with 4 songs

I think that covers everything mentioned in interviews so far.


In my head, this album is a bit like A Letter to Elise, To Wish Impossible Things, Bare etc. Melancholic, but with a certain ‘pop’ sensibility and not necessarily ‘doom and gloom’.
 
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